iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Todd Hollenshead, iD software CEO, gave an interview to Game Informer during QuakeCon 2005 in which, among other things, he explained the reasons behind iD's current preference for XBox 360.

In the interview Mr. Hollenshead tried to explain how the company views development on the two major next-generation consoles and tried to explain how Mr.Carmack views the process of programming on both the XBox 360 and PS3.

I'm not really one to put words in John's mouth but what I do know is we've had 360 stuff for a while and it was relatively easy to bring our internal project onto 360. We just got the PS3 stuff recently and it was relatively more difficult to bring that up on the PS3. So John's first impressions are, "360 great, PS3 - pain in my ass."

I think the more we work with it - I don't know if John himself will be doing the primary PS3 work or not - but we'll have to see about that stuff. Also, 360 is further along in their process as well. They have more final hardware, and they have better drivers, and the SDK has been more refined and revised. I think the PS3 stuff, in all fairness to Sony is a little bit more raw. I think we'll have to wait and see, but I don't think that's going to ultimately change the way we're going to approach developing on PS3. He knows from a technology horsepower standpoint that it'll do everything that we want it to do, so we're committed to it.

Considering iD software is firmly embracing the next-generation console format, the interview also discussed the future of PC gaming as viewed by iD and the future doesn't seem too bright for PC gaming.

here are some interesting trends in the industry. Whenever the next generation consoles come out they predict the demise of the PC gaming industry. They do it every single time it comes around. I don't think we're at all there. While the console market continues to grow, the PC market over the last three years has been down. You still have the hit titles that sell lots of copies. But really the middle and the bottom of the market have fallen off. So we've got double digit percentage decline in the PC market year after year, so far 2005 over 2004, and 2004 over 2003. We've taken note of that, as well.

We start looking at the difficulty of combating piracy, and how much more of an issue it is on the PC versus on the console, and the fact that game development budgets are so much bigger now than they were 10 years ago, that even if you're a PC-centric developer you have to take a more serious look and approach to how you're going to do on the consoles. For a long time consoles weren't thought of as the right way to play first person shooters, and people struggled with how the control was going to work. But now with the dual analog sticks on the controllers, and the fact that Halo has sold a ton - you're still not going to have the precision of a mouse and a keyboard, but first person shooters sell great and have huge fans on the consoles.

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iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Nah, i'm really better at halo using the xbox controller (with auto-aim). I even tried setting up my xbox controller on PC for Halo PC, and I still killed everyone even without auto-aim, but not quite as well as wih KB/M. Halo puts the perfect amount of auto-aim on the xbox version to make it still require skill and be fun.Hey CS fanboy, shut up. CS is fun for a while, but then it really gets old. Same s**t over and over again...

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

yes, such skill in autoaim..you foolI could wander my mouse randomly across the screen and have it lock on someones head...that takes no skill, no coordination..the only 'skill' it takes is to know that when your crosshair stoppes moving automatically on someones face, start shooting!Wow...I always think that mouse/keyboard should be an option for a consol. Also to the fool who said that a mouse and keyboard is what would make a console a PC, your just dumb..think about what your saying.Hardware doesn't matter? Schematics? OS? Nothing? Just a mouse and keyboard makes all the difference right?Idiot...

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

This pisses me off sooo much we spend s**tloads of money on kickass gfx cards and in the end we will have no games to run them on.Hmm xbox360 will probably be a nice console but i just cant stand microsoft how pc users and pc gamers made microsoft what they are, then snub pc gamers in favour for a s**tty (lets just pour f**k loads of money in to it and rob everbodys elses ideas and processors)console........hmm imagine if apple made a console.

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Who are the idiots arguing with john carmack...That guy IS the f**king industry, you cant argue with him, the pc gaming market isnt as profitable as it once was, there is no disagreement.Just because you like a mouse and keyboard and couterstrike doesnt mean everyone will.Let me adress the kinds of people who post here.Aussies have nothing of value to say, the best thing that came from there was crocadile dundee.And the idiot arabs that love couterstrike, only do so because we donated the hardware for them to be able to play it, and you know how much those arabs love to kill people.I obviously own a pc, but i can see what ID is saying with repect to console..mass markets are what matter now.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

fist person shooters will always be the best on pc because of the needed precision in multiplayer not offered by console and well pc's can play console games most of the time, also pc's can have game padsm steering wheelsm etc. but pc will always remain the power house of entertainment because of the simple keyboard and mouse system...

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

xbox 360 will be priced the same as PS3 as suggested on an article from this site so yea... THe war of the consoles will begin soon children so just hold onto your the thumbs ladies/gentlemen cause when both consoles are out let the real bashing begin for the truth will be told what console is best...

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

I feel sorrie for ID taking such an idea of piracy for PC games, i guess there trying to win a response by thinking that way.. there losers, PC rules n i don't care what ppl think.. Like they said once... Consoles are closed arhitecture.. Can't be upgraded!!! Meaning a PC in a year or two after the release of these amazing machines they will be out dated by the amazing PC..

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Hmmm i can tell alot of pc gamers are p...... off about this its a shame but i guess going to happen sooner or later with the all pirates and cheaters ruining pc gaming i guess non cheaters will finally have there revenge in some strange way

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

"but pc will always remain the power house of entertainment because of the simple keyboard and mouse system"I smell something stupid. lmaoIf this statement is true PC gaming wouldnt be in a terrible state right now. Stop making retarded, baseless opinions.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

the pc development industry just needs a new approach to piracy. I dont mind buying the game, the only issue i have is putting in the cd every time i want to play a game. when u have about 100 games, u dont want to switch for each game u play, and thats why others and i use no-cd cracks. Not because we are trying to pirate the game(true in some instances) but because they are wasting our damn time.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Need to stop being lazy. Your not playing 100 games all the time. It doesnt take long to find your game if you oganized. Your wasting your own time by being an ass and leavin your s**t all over the place. Dont blame the game industry if you cant find you game easily, what are you 12?

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Keyboard/Mouse is better for quick/precise movement in say fps/larege scale rpgs/rts but there is nothing at all wrong with a controller. Console games are made with a controller in mind so it doesnt hurt gameplay at all. Xbox 360 looks nice and so does the PS3. The 360 is gonna have different versions over 5 years tho, so who knows how thats gonna go (not just small revisions/fixes). Ps3 is gonna be high priced because it has newer technology. All I can say is...poor Nintendo :( nobody talks about them much LONG LIVE MARIO!

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Anonymousat 7:57 16/8/2005um, thats one thing ok, but when u go to a lan and crap, do u like to bring all 100 of ur discs there...and the uh oh, someone forgot their disc now we cant play that game! oh wait, a miricle just happenned! no-cd cracks! duh duh duh! now we can play the game! yeah!

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Revolution is by far going to be the best of the next consoles, and its a shame that dumbasses dont even look at it because they think the games are 'kiddy'. News flash u dumbasses, the game does not have to be rated M or higher and have killing or shotting ppl in it to be good. U need to get into some real entertainment and play some games that actually show the meaning of fun.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

"um, thats one thing ok, but when u go to a lan and crap, do u like to bring all 100 of ur discs there...and the uh oh, someone forgot their disc now we cant play that game! oh wait, a miricle just happenned! no-cd cracks! duh duh duh! now we can play the game! yeah!"Um once again you fail. Your going to a lan paty and you need 100 games? How long are you intending to play? 1 year? what? it takes you several minutes to figure out what to play and decide to play something else? you obviously have never been to a lan paty cause all the lan party ive been to alredy have a game or 5 they want to play and thats it. They're very organized and if someone forgot to bring their cd's, then thats their fault not everyone else. No one is going to wait for your dumbass just because you forget to bring your own crap your supposed to bing in the first place. that's entirley you fault. Lan partys takes hours or even days in some cases. you can't take a few minutes to get back home and get your shet? You really need to move aound, im seeing you to whine too much over simple things. Im just gonna assume you one fat ass XD

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

"Um once again you fail. Your going to a lan paty and you need 100 games? "omg u are the biggest retard in the world. I bet b4 u go to lans u make a details schedule fo what games ur going to play? We decided after we get there, and what game we're in the mood for. Therefore, u need to keep all the discs with u. I nvr said anything about playing all of them, but if u want to play then u need it duh. U cant bring 10 discs and then uh oh, u want to play a bunch of games u dont have with u! u truly are an idiot.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Nah, Nintendo isnt dying, look at their handheld and where they are going with their console. They are obviously going for the ultimate handheld/portable. They keep going smaller and smaller while still having great gaming power. Msoft and Sony are going for high power full entertainment systems. What would be better than having near the power of the big guys on the go?

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

I dont know about you, but at EVERY lan party ive been to its your pick between say...10-20 games that everybody plays...usually less than 10 the entire time (been to several 4 day 1200+ person lan parties and there wasnt a HUGE array of games to play multiplayer with the others). But it is true that nocd cracks are used for mainlly 3 things, convenience, pirating, and for those who have lost/broken their cd and want to play or use a backup they may have made.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

"I bet b4 u go to lans u make a details schedule fo what games ur going to play?"OMFG!! whats wrong with that? that only shows how much we plan and do things seriously enough. We dont waste time arguing and debating what games we would play. Thats for retard people and that is a waste of time. We know what we want to play, we know what we like, and we know what to do when we get to a lan party. stop being a pussy pls and just bring your games in a case. Its not that heavy and difficult, you can even bring 100 games you want in it and organize it alphabetically so you won't have a hard time finding it. Stop being a weak baby. You dam Girl XD

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"OMFG!! whats wrong with that?"um...its kinda...weird?normally u dont plan out what games u play, u decided once u get there and see what ppl feel like playing. I dont know about u, but i can want to play counter strike one hour, and the next not feel like playing it. Which means we decide what to play. now shut ur mouth because uve made a fool of urself, ok its a known fact that NORMAL ppl dont like to use the cd when they play multiple games.

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continued:we all knw that ur just trying to defend urself, since u know for fact that i am right and that using cd's just wastes time, and not only that, when i have a lan party, its isnt something huge, there are at most 8 of us, so its very easy to decide what game to play right away. I dont go to huge 100+ ppl lans, i keep it simple and have less ppl, and mre of them. Since most games such as rts dont even support more than 8 ppl, having 100 ppl is a waste of ppl. and ive nvr seen a fps with maps big enough to handle 100 ppl (ut2004, quake, etc)

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Small lan parties are nice as well (just you and your friends yellin at each other and kickin ass), but do they have tourneys where you can win several thou? Or do they give away free $500+ hardware? Also do they have the amount of 'sharing' that a larger one would? We have lots and lots of small lans at each others houses and such, but nothin beats a large one. Also nowadays there are several games that support large amounts of players [BF1942/bf2(64),Joint Op(150+), CSS(64), CoD(32), etc] all which can be great fun. We generally use small lans to drink, watch movies, and chillax and the large ones for the free stuff, heh. I ALWAYS get my moneys worth in free stuff(btw this isnt to flame/degrade your opinion just to give another view). I do agree that cds are damn annoying even though they are mighty handy at times.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

yeah there are those few games which do support a mass amount of ppl, but the funnest ones are those with just a few. Also, not in my case, but other cases, some ppl dont have the hardware to handle so many ppl at once (64+) and the funnest lan games from my expirience are rts games, which i have nvr seen support more than 8-12 players, which is fun. Plus, the ppl who enter those lans for the hardware are not only better than me, but for that kind of prize they would be a little too serious to win it. I just want to have fun. If it means cheating, or using admin abailities, then ok. But at a larger lan like what u say, u cant have fun. u cant play free for all and expect to make little 'teams' against ppl with ur friends. It just doesnt work that way from my expirience. I prefer the smaller lans, but lately everyone has been hooked on WoW, but im working on a 'solution' to that ;) Since i myself am a person who hates the game. They basically have been ruining the lans lately with games that can be played from home

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Anonymousat 11:30 16/8/2005Hahahahahaha!! Youre a big tard for real. Youre making assumptions on your small time experience in lan party. first of all I didnt say cd crack wasnt convenient. Im just stating how much of a pansy ass you are for whining so much over carrying a couple of CD with you on a lan paty. Second of all I just stating how retarded it is for people like you to bring 100 (yes 100 as you stated) games to a lan party just because you might wanna play it when you get easily bored over playing another. Seriously, do you have ADD? Alright I'll agree with you (so you can stop cying) CD's are inconvenient but youll have to agree with me when I say youre a whiny fag. XD

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

just to clear some things up, i have 100 games but they are all cracked, but the point i was trying to make was how much of an inconvinience the cd's are. As for having 100 games and getting bored, no ADD is not being able to pay attention u dumbass, but unlike u, i like some variety in the games i play. I dont like playing one game for 24 hours straight.

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continuedand being at a much larger lan party than i have does not mean u know anything more than i do about lans. It just means i am able to play with my friends instead of 100 gay ppl, and easily be able to decide how to play new games instead of being raped while u play the 5-10 games u made on a schedule.

iD Loves X360 - PS3 Not Yet

Listen Microsoft will prevail this time around,why? because they are richer than Sony, their console is real and will be out very soon, easier to develop for, more powerful GPU (please don't argue that point), better online capabilites, and a great line up of games at launch. All the PS3 demos were not in real time. Futhermore the industry prefers HD-DVD over BLU-RAY. Microsoft doesn't know defeat. I am not saying all this because I am a XBOX 360 fanboy or some s**t, its just Microsoft is loaded.

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"instead of being raped while u play the 5-10"sounds like u just afraid to loose. You that weak? scared? what a pussy. btw u might wanna check the meaning of ADD again. U losing interest in game so much that u need 100 games to bring along a lan party is a clear symptom of ADD. Getting bored in itself is not ADD, but making sure u have 100 games to play in order to enjoy lan party is a a sure sign u have it. BTW your are totaly retarded, further posting by me would only result on how lame u really are. Ive had my fun in showing how gay u are so ill just stop. Good day! XD

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since megagames is really gay and doesnt allow me to post anything longer than like 5 sentences now, ill make it short. u are a dumbass, add stands for attention deficit disorder, a syndrome which does not allow ppl to consintrate on one thing

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