[[GameCube Gets European Launch]]
The surprise survivor of the console war has to be Nintendo's GameCube, although most who knew Nintendo and their past achievements, did expect this to happen. Now GameCube recieved its European launch amidst excitement but without the flamboyance associated with similar Microsoft events.
With a considerable marketing budget of US$90.7 million, and with 500,000 units already shipped, Nintendo's European launch seems to have gone well. The Japanese console veterans announced a surprise European price cut 2 weeks before the launch, 199 euros in Europe and 129 UK pounds (US$188.60) in Britain, can now say that their console is 100 euros cheaper than its main rivals Sony's PS2 and Microsoft's XBox.
According to Nintendo in the UK alone the company had received 50,000 confirmed pre-orders and in the same country 10,000 units were sold during the first two hours following Gamecube's launch.
However well sales may go Nintendo is really fighting for second place and its main rival is Microsoft's XBox rather than the PS2 simply because Sony's headstartmeans it has already sold, worldwide, 25 million units while Nintendo only 3 million. Sony released their DVD playing console at the right time capitalizing on the DVD craze which was at its peak then. Nintendo expect to sell 1 million GameCube's during the first 2 months of its release in Europe. GameCube launched in Europe with 20 game titles immediately available and a total of 50 expected by the summer.
It is extremely risky to attempt to estimate who will come out on top. Microsoft are having problems with their console but have reacted by reducing its European price and it is certain that they have the resources to withstand the economic loss of such a reduction. On the other hand the XBox is more powerful hardware wise and does offer a myriad of extra features not carried by GameCube. However, it is important to consider that Nintendo has a large, trusting fan base among gamers and most will settle for the less hardware - better price - better games promise that Nintendo are offering.
The hardware is somewhat irrelevant, said, rather conveniently, David Gosen, managing director of Nintendo Europe.
It's not what goes into the box that's important, it's the gaming experience that comes out of it.
Europe is a very important market for Nintendo and we are committed to making it a success, added Gosen. With European hardware and software sales accounting for 31 percent (US$7.5 billion )of global sales it is certain that the European front of the console war will be every bit as interesting as those in Japan and the US.
[[XBox Father Resigns]]
It takes quite a bit of failure for a father to forsake his son. It seems however, that the XBox did something wrong. In news lately, for all the wrong reasons, Microsoft are trying to save some face by coming out clean.
James Bernard, an Xbox spokesman at Microsoft announced "He (Seamus Blackley, the co-creator of the Xbox) has left Microsoft to pursue other opportunities, we value his contributions."
Although the statement was rather minimalistic in nature, the truth is that the XBox just lost its father. Blackley, who is a physicist, was initially employed creating video games for Hollywood movie studio DreamWorks. He later joined Microsoft and headed the company's Advanced Technology Group. He has been one of the Xbox's most prominent faces since launch.
In typical Microsoft fashion he even proposed to his fiance during the Xbox's launch on Nov. 15 in Times Square in New York.
[[Microsoft Confirms XBox Slowdown]]
We had reported rumours of a slowdown in XBox sales and production recently. Microsoft have made it official, claiming that they will miss their 2002 shipment targets by as much as 40 percent, largely due to low sales in Europe and Japan.
In numbers that means that MS expects to ship 3.5 million to 4 million Xbox consoles by the end of June, down from the initial estimates of 4.5 million to 6 million units.
This announcement clearly indicates that XBox sales are struggling and that the healthy sales figures displayed by Sony and Nintendo may be the culprits.
In a further effort to change the European view of the XBox Microsoft also announced that they will be reducing the price of the console to Euros 299/£199 in Europe and to A$399 in Australia. Although this may seem a reasonable move in order to better compete with the cheaper PS2 and GameCube consoles, many believe that Microsoft will have to fight hard to survive the losses which this reduction will create.
[[Nintendo Sales Surge - Profits Follow]]
Although Nintendo had produced a modest net profit forecast of 80 billion Yen, early estimates indicate that they may by far exceed expectations.
According to the company for the year up to 31st March 2002, net profits had risen 14% to a record 110 billion Yen (US$841 million). According to Nintendo these figures are a direct result of the falling price of the Yen and surging sales of the new GameCube console.
Shipments of the GameCube were expected to jump to 12 million in 2002/03, 3 times the 4 million units, shipped in 2001, output is also expected to surge following the launch of production in China. The 10% drop of the price of the Yen against the US Dollar was also an important factor.
Nintendo are also expecting help from their upcoming game titles which allow a very comfortable profit margin and are bound to have a positive impact on the company's figures.
Such news rub salt in Microsoft's, recent XBox sales, wounds especially since with both Nintendo and Sony doing well in console sales, they seem to be the only hardware manufacturer lagging behind.
[[XBox - U.S. Slowdown?]]
Microsoft faced gloomy reports of slow XBox sales in Europe and Japan by boasting of the success of their console in the U.S. Latest analyst reports however, suggest a U.S. sales
slowdown. The reports are based on an apparent slow-down on the production of the XBox by Flextronics. According to the same analysts, Microsoft could well fail to meet their shipping target of 4.5 - 6 million units worldwide by June 30.
The classic Microsoft approach of hyping a product upon its release may have failed in this case because they do not have the same stranglehold on the market as they do for operating systems.
European sales, according to most retailers and analysts, have been lower than expected largely due to the price. In Japan sales are also low, partly due to the fact that XBox is competing with local products and partly because of certain hardware problems which caused some units to scratch the game discs.
To top it all off, Goldman Sachs claimed last week that retailers in the U.S. prefer the PS2 to the XBox.
[[XBox - Hardware Bad, Software Good]]
Following reports of low XBox hardware sales in Europe it seems that similar figures are coming in from Japan. Most analysts had predicted a hesitant uptake of Microsoft's new toy in Japan but now the company itself is confirming the news.
XBox director Robbie Bach said "Japan is going well on the software side and probably is a little behind where we want to be on the hardware side, But we always expected things would be tough. Microsoft has demonstrated patience and persistence there before and I think we will do very well."
Although Microsoft are not releasing any specific figures early reports indicate that the XBox has sold a little over 190,000 units since its launch in Japan on February 22. In order to better understand the numbers, consider that Sony's PlayStation 2 had sold 980,000 units in the first three days following its launch in March, 2000.
In an attempt to play down the importance of these figures, Microsoft continue the comparison between XBox and PS2 during its release and claim that software uptake has been better for them. The average of 1.6 games per Xbox so far, compares well to the PS2's one game per console figure back in 2000. It is however strange if you consider that these figures mean that now 304,000 games have been bought for the XBox while back then 980,000 titles had been purchased by the new PS2 owners.
Still high software sales are essential if XBox is to survive since that is the profitable side of the console market for Microsoft. According to them they lose money on every XBox they sell.
Bach believes that the low hardware sales in Japan may also have to do with the skepticism with which game developers view the foreign intrusion into their market. "We're seeing lot of strong support there. We expect our relationships there to grow. It's not something you can jump in, and in three weeks you have great relations with everyone. It takes three months, or three years," Bach said.
Elsewhere in the world, especially in the U.S., the XBox is fairing well. According to Bach in the U.S. an average of 3.8 games per console is purchased, while in Europe, where the console is only three weeks old, owners have bought 2.3 titles per console.
Microsoft's showcase title, "Halo", is reported to have sold 1 million copies worldwide, reaching that figure in half the time it took for the equivalent PS2 title to get there.
"Project Gotham" has sold 500,000 copies so far while "Dead or live 3" has reached the 400,000 mark.
So what is next for the XBox? In May Microsoft will preview many new titles for their console while according to Bach, "The critical next step for us is scaling the platform from being a successful launch to being a broad-based success with a big installed base... The second thing ... is our online plans. That should be very very infesting. We have some fun things to talk about, some fun things to show."
[[XBox European Sales Low]]
According to projections made by the research company MCV (Market for Computer and Videogames), XBox sales in Europe have not been as good as Microsoft had hoped.
The most worrying figures come from France and Germany while in the UK consumers seem more enthusiastic.
While Microsoft have been keeping quite about their European sales, MCV speculates that in Germany only 10,000 units were sold in the three days following the launch. The same figure, of 10,000 units sold in three days, also applies for France.
Sales in the UK tell a different story however, XBox sales for the first three days following its launch reached 48,000 units. MCV goes on to suggest that these high UK figures may include consoles bought by traders which have not yet made their way to the consumer.
MCV rounds off the report by comparing current XBox sales with November 2000 sales of the PS2. In the first two days after launch about 140.000 Playstation 2 units were sold by Sony in the UK and Germany.
[[XBox Launches in Europe]]
Completing the third and final step of the Xbox launch, Microsoft launched the Xbox in Europe today. According to Microsoft, Europe accounts for 50% of the $20 billion video games market.
The Xbox will be sold for 300 pounds ($423) in Britain and 479 euros ($421) in other parts of Europe and Microsoft expects to sell 1.5 million units within the next three months.
Will Microsoft run into hardware issues with these units such as in Japan? Microsoft says "extremely unlikely". We will have to wait and see...
[[XBox Problems in Japan]]
Microsoft have tried really hard to make their launch in Japan impressive. Recognizing the difficulties of competing in the country of origin of their competition, Microsoft have pulled all the stops in order to impress Japanese consumers. Much like in the US though, many Japanese customers have complained over scratched XBox discs. Recognizing the problem, Microsoft have issued a statement claiming that they will unconditionally replace any hardware or software found to be defective, since the cause of the scratching remains undetermined.
Initial reports suggest that the scratches are a result of improper disc placement in the tray or of contact of the disc with the tray itself.
Microsoft's commitment to achieving success in the Japanese market however, does not allow any room for hesitation. All XBox retailers in Japan are ready to react to any customer complaint and Microsoft seems confident the problems will be overcome, as they did in mid-November in the U.S.
The importance of the Japanese market has led to Microsoft releasing a specially designed controller as well as 50,000 (Japan only) limited edition consoles.
Although Microsoft will be replacing everything with a smile, the current problems only add to the financial vulnerability of the XBox. With an, as yet, undetermined cost, these replacements will further delay the XBox from making any money for Microsoft.
Unofficial figures claim that 125,000 Xbox consoles where shipped during the first three days after the console went on sale on February 22.
Console launch problems are not uncommon in Japan and Microsoft will be hoping to make as impressive a recovery as that made by Sony when their PS2 console faced DVD playback problems in March 2000.
GameCube on a Spending Spree
Nintendo announced that they will be spending approximately US$87 million on the European launch of the GameCube. The console, expected to launch in Europe in early May, will be cheaper than Microsoft's XBox and will be available in the UK for UKP 150 as opposed to the UKP 299 for the XBox.
In order to compensate for the late launch, compared to MS's mid-March launch, the money will be spent in order to better acquaint potential customers with GameCube's specifications and capabilities. Carrying an IBM G3 processor chip called the CXe which is roughly equivalent to the G4 powered Macs, Nintendo's baby carries a hefty punch.
The campaign will involve 17 countries and in-store events will begin mid-March, no prizes for guessing why. Officially the timing is explained as coinciding with CeBIT 2002.
The campaign Tag-Line is Life's a Game
[[XBox Launches in Japan]]
XBox was launched, with typical Microsoft extravagance, in Japan on Friday. The software, and now hardware, giant entered the Japanese market which everyone considers to be the hardest to break. XBox faces stiff competition, from a vaiety of home grown and well established consoles like Playstation2 and GameCube.
To demonstrate the importance Microsoft assigns to the Japanese market William Gates himself showed up in order to introduce the product.
"Japanese gamers are among the most sophisticated in the world, and Xbox is the future-generation game system that matches their sophistication, fires their imagination and tests their skills," Gates said, as he greeted the first gamers in Japan to buy Xbox.
"Today's Xbox launch demonstrates our long-term commitment to Japanese video game players," said Robbie Bach, chief Xbox officer (CXO) at Microsoft. "Xbox is just getting started in Japan, and already the launch lineup of games is very strong. It's amazing to see what many of the legendary Japanese game designers have been able to accomplish on Xbox."
Xbox is on sale at thousands of Japanese retail outlets, and 12 titles are available. It will cost Yen 34,800 with a special limited, only for the Japanese market, edition costing Yen 39,800.
Launch Line-Up
The launch lineup includes great titles from the top names in video games, such as Sega Corp., Konami Corp., Capcom Co. Ltd., Tecmo Ltd. and Microsoft Corp. A total of 22 titles are scheduled to be available in Japan by the end of March. Many of these Japanese games have global appeal and may be localized in various markets around the world.
"This is just the beginning for Xbox in Japan," said Hirohisa Ohura, managing director and head of the Xbox Division at Microsoft Japan. "We are continuing to work with our incredible partners to develop unprecedented games that can only be created on Xbox."
The Japanese Xbox game lineup includes the following:
JSRF - Jet Set Radio Future (from Sega) - is a graphical street-skating action-adventure game with the unique visual style of Japanese manga comics.
Genma Onimusha (from Capcom) - is a new interpretation of the war survival action series that garnered worldwide acclaim.
Silent Hill 2: Saigo no Uta (from Konami Computer Entertainment Tokyo) - is the hit adventure game that shook the world with its spine-tingling horror and real-world environment as can only be presented on Xbox.
Double-S.T.E.A.L. (from Bunkasha) - is a car action game modeled after the thrilling trademark car stunt scenes of Hong Kong cinema. (This title is also referred to as WRECKLESS: The Yazuka Missions as published by Activision Inc. in North America and Europe.)
Air Force Delta II (from Konami) - is an incredibly realistic 3-D shooting game that incorporates amazingly intense air battles using real-world fighter planes.
Hyper Sports 2002 Winter (from Konami) - re-creates ten sporting events in a realistic, easy-to-control manner. Gamers will appreciate the beautiful winter atmosphere and the attention to graphics, such as the view from the slopes, snow-capped mountains and skating rinks complete with reflections on the ice.
ESPN Winter X Games Snowboarding 2002 (from Konami) - is a realistic snowboarding game modeled after the ESPN Winter X Games and based on comments and participation from world-class snowboarders.
Nobunaga's Ambition: Chronicles of Chaos (from Koei Corp.) - is a historical simulation game in which powerful leaders do battle to become the victorious feudal lord who can bring warring factions together.
Nezmix (from Microsoft) - is a comical adventure in which players take on the role of a mouse that must recruit and lead a team of its fellow mice to defend their town against a band of enemy invaders.
Tenku: Freestyle Snowboarding (from Microsoft) - is a snowboarding game that focuses on freestyle riding, rather than traditional race-based games. (This title is also known as Amped: Freestyle Snowboarding.)
Project Gotham Racing: World Street Racer (from Microsoft) - features a unique Kudos System in which players earn rewards not only for being first at the finish line, but also for displaying skill, style and daring while driving.
Dead or Alive 3 (from Tecmo) - is the third title in Tecmo's popular tournament fighting action game series.
[[The European Frontier]]
In an attempt to gain European ground Nintendo decided to strike at Microsoft and SONY where it hurts and announced the launch date and price of the Gamecube's European campaign.
While the Console War rages in the US, all competitors are formulating their strategies for the new battlefields. Europe and Japan will offer the new markets where Microsoft, Nintendo and SONY will continue their fight for gaming supremacy.
In Europe, especially the UK, the announced European price of the XBox is already causing a consumer outcry. At least one online petition form. is available and has already been sent to Microsoft. Focusing on that, obvious weakness, Nintendo announced that its new console, The GameCube, will carry a US$216($250 Euro)European price tag. Compare that to the XBox's 490 Euro price for the UK (479 Euro for the rest of Europe)and SONY's 326 Euro price for the PS2 in the UK (307 Euro for the rest of Europe)and you can see that Nintendo will have a huge advantage over its competition.
"It is our basic policy to offer our game machines at a reasonable price for our customers even though it will result in a relatively low profit margin..." said Yoshihiro Mori, managing director of Nintendo.
GameCube is expected to launch in Europe on May 3rd, while XBox will hit European shelves on March 14th. Once Microsoft launches its console in Japan, a more complete overview of the war will be feasible since all systems will be available everywhere.
GBA Price to be Cut
Nintendo seem to be intent at bringing the rest of the console manufacturers to their knees. Aided by the current low price of the Yen, they decided to cut the price of the Game Boy Advance globally on February 1st.
The move was made to narrow the price gap between the GBA and its predecessor, the Game Boy Color, in Europe, which according to Nintendo was affecting GBA sales. "We figured that if we are going to cut the price of GBA in Europe, we'd better do it worldwide to prevent a potential increase in latent demand outside the region where a similar cut might be expected." said Yoshihiro Mori.
According to the company the new expected prices for the GBA will be:
Japan Former Price 9,800 Yen (US$75) New Price 8,800 Yen (US$65)
N. America Former Price US$ 99.95 New Price US$ 79.95
Europe Former Price 129 Euros (US$110) New Price 99 Euros (US$85)
[[XBox to Lose Money]]
Microsoft announced it has set a price for the sale of its XBox console in Japan. Upon its launch, February 22nd, the console will cost US$263. This move indicates that Microsoft will attempt to directly compete with SONY's PS2 console which costs US$225 and has, so far, been the undisputed sales champion in Japan. In order to understand how seriously Microsoft are considering the threat posed by PlayStation 2 it is important to know that each console costs the company up to US$375 to produce. With XBox selling for US$299 in the US, the same price as the PS2, Microsoft could lose up to US$ 1 billion by 2004 before breaking even. The company is however, planning on covering much of the loss through game sales, which do allow for a comfortable profit margin.
Whatever the intentions many traditional console manufacturers have found that the Japanese market can have a sobering effect. When the GameCube launched in Japan in September 2001, high hopes were soon grounded by a dissapointing sales performance, even though the console sells for a modest US$189. Microsoft have been watching and analysts expect that the US$ 500 million spent on worldwide marketing might just help the XBox to avoid the same fate.
Games
Another problem facing Microsoft is the apparent shortage of titles for their console, which might prove discouraging to consumers who will be asked to pay deerly for a console not yet fully supported by games. Twelve games will be available at the launch, and 22 will be available by March 31, the launch titles will include Sega's Jet Set Radio Future a highly anticipated game that will come to the United States later this year.
Limited Edition XBox
The importance assigned to the Japanese market by Microsoft is evident and promotion plans include the release of limited edition Xbox units with a translucent case, a silver-colored logo, high-definition TV and Dolby stereo expansion packs, and an engraved keychain with serial number.
[[PS2 Sales Double in December]]
Sony announced that sales of the PlayStation 2 more than doubled in December 2001 in the US and Japan, compared to the same month last year. Considering the fact that this holiday season saw the release of two rival products by Microsoft and Nintendo, any rise in sales of the PS2 seems like a major feat. During the past month 5 million PS2 units were sold all over the world. The fact that the PS2 is available worldwide however, does make it rather pointless to compare straight figures with the other two consoles which are not yet available outside the US (XBox) and the US and Japan (GameCube).
Sony made a point of claiming that sales were much bettet than their sales targets but went on to refuse to mention what those targets were.
In Japan, a decrease in the console price, it now sells for US$224, led to sales of 1.1 million units between the last week of November and the first week of January.
In the US the console sold 2.5 million PS2's between Thanksgiving week and the end of December. Although sales grew to 2.4 times those for the same time period last year, some consideration has to be given to the fact that Sony was plagued with supply problems all through the holiday period last year, so sales figures were not as high as they could have been.
Sony sold 1.68 million units in Europe during December. Worldwide shipments of the PS2 since the consoles' launch in March 2000, are expected to reach 30.6 million units in March 2002.
Sales figures for software titles for the PS2 were tripled for the same time periods with
combined PS2 and PS1 figures being 4,200 titles in Japan and 1,400 in North America.
XBox and GameCube
Microdoft said that a total of 1.5 million units of the Xbox had been shipped by the end of December. The target set by Microsoft is to ship 4.5 to 6 million boxes by June 2002.
These target figures include the rest of the world since Microsoft plans to release the console in Japan on February 22 and in Europe on March 14.
Nintendo has not yet released sales figures for its console which was released in Japan in September and in the US in November.
[[PS2 Fights Back]]
It seems that as the hype surrounding the two new consoles slowly dies down, one unexpected winner seems to be arising. Two weeks ago it was reported that PS2 console sales had risen by about 80%, due to the launch of the Microsoft and Nintendo systems. Now evidence, provided by the NPD group, suggests that PS2 games are also selling much better than their next generation rivals.
In the list of the top-20 video games for November, SONY's console had more Top 20 titles than its two newest rivals combined. The figures showed that 7 PS2 games made the Top 20 ncluding the two top games, Konami's "Metal Gear Solid 2" and Take-Two Interactive's "Grand Theft Auto 3".
The XBox had four Top 20 titles with Microsoft's "Halo" being the highest ranking of those. Gamecube had two Top 20 games with the highest ranking one being Nintendo's "Luigi's Mansion".
The remaining games in the Top 20 for November, included 3 PS1 titles, 3 GameBoy Color games and 1 GameBoy Advance game.
The top publisher for the same month was EA with 6 Top 20 titles, second came Activision with 3 games and third was THQ with 2 Top 20 titles. It is not that surprising that EA was at the top, considering they own the Harry Potter rights and 3, no less, Harry Potter games were in the Top 20.
Although these figures are impressive, we shouldn't be too fast to draw conclusions. For half of the month of November the XBox was not even available and the Gamecube has been around for even a shorter time. SONY's console has also been around for a year and its new competitors have not reached the market saturation levels of the PS2. It is therefore safe to assume that, for the time being at least, more people own a PS2 than an XBox or a GameCube.
These facts make the December Top 20 figures, which should be the highest in recorded history, seem much more interesting.
[[Update No.2]]
Nintendo have focused on producing a frequent and constant barrage of press releases explaining how well their sales have been doing and how delighted they are. Microsoft decided to reply, in kind, by letting us know that they have already shipped in excess of 1 million XBox units, pretty much meeting their set target of 1 to 1.5 million units by the end of 2001.
For comparison purposes it is interesting to know that Nintendo aims to ship 1.3 million GameCube units by the end of 2001 even though the console was released a week after the XBox.
In reply to Microsofts press release, Nintendo released new figures of their own raising the number of units they expect to sell by April 2002 by 12.5%. Nintendo had initially announced that they expected to sell 4 million consoles by that time, this figure has now been re-estimated at 4.5 million units.
Microsofts' press release also included details of the sales figures for XBox titles, which, at first glance, seem impressive. Although the two console giants have focused on flooding us with numbers in order to convince us of their success, we have been trained well by politicians, in the art of seeing beyond "manufactured figures". In order to see how Microsoft have succeeded in producing such impressive sales of games, follow the link below and to the right.
This war will also be waged for a long time...
[[More News]]
It seems Microsoft,as we have come to expect, has manipulated the market in order to attain the impressive 2.4 games per console figure.
A brief search on the various online sites offering the XBox confirms that it is extremely difficult to find anyone selling the XBox on its own.
So here's a list of the various XBox "packages" offered by the most popular retailers.
Amazon offers three different packages, all cost $499.99 and offer three titles, an extra controller and a magazine subscription. The only difference is that the titles change.
Wal-Mart again offer 3 packages with 3, 6 and 9 games, priced at $519.59, $669.64 and $854.48 respectively.
In fact, a quick look at the XBox Recommended Retailers will convince you that something is not right. Of all the sites listed only CompUSA offers the choice of purchasing the console on its own.
While it is true that many such "packages are also available for the GameCube, it is easier by far to purchase Nintendo's console on its own.
[[Console Wars:The Story So Far]]
Behind the parade of press releases, ads and full scale media induced brain - washing, lies the truth. Truth in our world is measured in money and sales figures. The X-Box is now officially the holder of the "Best Selling Launch in History" title. Another positive figure for the Microsoft console is the 2.4 games per box statistic. This means that SONY's PS2, 1.9 games sold along with each console record, is now well beaten. On average every XBox purchase is instantly followed by the sale of 2.4 games. Nintendo's GameCube equivalent figure is reported as ranging from 1.7 to 1.9 titles per console.
The XBox also leads the way in best selling game titles, since "Halo" outsold the GameCube's best selling title "Luigi's Mansion". XBox titles seem unstoppable and sales figures are strong for titles such as Microsoft's "Project Gotham Racing", "NFL Fever 2002" and third-party games such as "Dead or Alive 3" from Tecmo, "Madden NFL 2002" from Electronic Arts and "Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x" from Activision Inc.
Great expectations also follow LucasArts Entertainment's release of Star Wars Starfighter: Special Edition for Xbox, a reworking of the original PlayStation 2 game. The publisher indicated that the title has shipped and that the Xbox rendition contains five new bonus missions, additional two-player racing action, a new two-player Dog-Fight mode, expanded arenas for Capture-the-Flag and improved graphics.
The total sales figures so far are:
XBox : 556,000 units sold in 9 days.
GameCube : 469,000 units sold in 7 days.
One unexpected twist saw an incredible 83% increase in PS2 sales in one week, while in the same week sales of GameBoy Color increased by 331% and sales of GameBoy Advance increased by 157%.
SONY execs must be wearing a pretty content grin on their faces, from the free ride they are getting from Microsoft and Nintendo.

Comments
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Console War : The Story So Far (update16)
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Console War : The Story So Far (update16)
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Console War : The Story So Far (update16)
In an interview with the creator of the original resident evil series gamecubenetwork.com asked this question:Question: Biohazard 4(resident evil4) was originally announced for the PlayStation 2, what's happening about that version?Mikami-san: It was completely scrapped and development was moved to the GameCube. I've been in continued contact with the division working on Biohazard 4, and all I can say is, it will be quite good.There ya go ya dirty bastard PS2 DEVELOPMENT TOTALLY SCRAPPED AND MOVED TO GAMECUBE, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAwe also get more from the other resident evil series inwhich 70%of the game will be different so it will be like a brand new game!hahaha just admit it in
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yES THAts Right bitchGamecube- $199GS2- $299Brick-Box $299geez u could buy a ps2 or an xbox 4 the same price and the xbox has over twice the power.hahahahahahahahaOr the better alternative would be to get a gamecube with 2 games 4 the same price. Why is gamecube selling best? HAHAHAHAHAGEEZ ITS 2 EEZY 4 NINTENDO
Console War : The Story So Far (update16)
I reckon that the nintendo gamecube will be the best out of the new age consoles. The graphics are better than the PS2 and the games will be better than the xbox.With help from ibm with the proccessor and silicon and ATI helping with the graphics, and extra feature like using the GBA as a controller or screen, and the exellent price for the gamecube, i think Nintendo will come out top.
Console War : The Story So Far (update16)
i wont say who (but you know who you are) said a while back that in new york you can get a ps2 with 2 games included for $279. Thats probaly true.And you laughed at people in australia paying $500. you have to remember that your dollar is almost twice as strong as ours. And at that time ours was very weak. In fact your dollar was twice over twice as strong as ours. So of course that would be the price there. Plus the ps2 has been out there for one and half years more than here so the price would have dropped like here (now the ps2 is $450). But anyway who would even want to buy the ps2, id rather play my supernes.hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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i agree Ausruz. Its very obvious sony and microsoft make pathetic games and need certain multimedia features to draw people to there consoles. Nintendo concentrates on games.ive seen the quality of the ps2 dvd and if i had a cat it would put on a better quality show.
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Hi i am donIt really ticks me off when someone puts the GameCube off just because of it's looks. For example
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Yo YO Yo... im here to let yall knoe somthing n here it is soem dude came on n said that teh australian dollar is worth than the us dollar 2 times less ok great for you?? i sthat supposed to be a good thing u dumb shit? anyway my point was that soem guy from australia came on n complained baout the ps2 being too expensive down there n all iw as tryin to say is too fuken bad u luky u gettin a ps2 u dumb shyt....No propaganda here u fuker i neva spread no propagada all i said was that there isa very big rumor that capcom hasnt denied that biohazard 4 (resident evil 4) will hit ps2! and yes the project was scaraped and moved to gaypube but u didnt bother to ask if they are reduing teh fuken project the one for ps2 will come out a lil bit after ure gaypube shyt n will have more features coksuka no fuken propagandaGaypube not selling in japan, nintendo loosing lotsa dough - very unfortuneteXcrotch not seling anywhere besides some stupid bastards who want a pc for a console - thats also unfortunetePS2 seliing more than gaypube and xcroch put together - now thats pricles!until next time! all u ps2 lovers keep on lovin all u ps2 haterz lik dese nuts cuz ure gaypubes aint sellin... only to the cheap bastards who don wana dish out an extra 100 buks to play the best games out on the market
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Right bitch lets put an end tu ure shit1)Yea its f**k expensive thats why the PS2 isn't selling down here and sony r losing DERE DOUGH and a f**kload more than nintendo would ever lose in japan.2)the gamecube is sellin better than ure stupid heater and now the main fight is between nintendo and microsoft and nintendo can easily win.3)There WAS a rumour and res evil 4 WAS in development 4 ure black chunky heater but then they cancelled it cooz it was 2 hard to develop 4 and gamecube is easiest, plus nintendo is the most stable company.4)the word scrapped means no more development d**khead......bit slow there....ure runnin out of material5)nintendo made the most cash in year and have won the most awardsand the only way u do that is by making the best games and systemsand the only way sony and microsoft get customers is by putting crappy multimedia devices into there systems and that proves they dont care about games and thatz not wat makes a good gaming system
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X-box $299.00PS2 $299.00GCN $199Dropping them all and noticing that only the gamecube would survive the crash and that ps2 and xbox aren't made with qualityFUKEN EXPERNSIVE
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I've got a few points to make.(1) So you dont think your dollar being twice as strong makes a difference. yes it does.if something where you are is US$200it would be $400 here.(not that i want a ps2 anyway, that was just to prove a point when you laughed at us paying so much).(2)YES, YES, YES IT IS EASIER TO MAKE GAMES FOR THE GAMECUBE. NO POINT ARGUING,IT IS EASIER ON GAMECUBE. MAGAZINE AFTER MAGAZINE,(WITH PS2 AND XBOX) INTERNET SITE AFTER INTERNET SITE (WITH PS2 AND XBOX) SAY IT. EVEN CATALOGS OF GAMING STORES SAY IT (AND GUESS WHAT!!!THESE SHOPS SELL PS2 AND XBOX.IF YOU DISAGREE (WRRROOONG!!!!!!!) IF YOU HAVE AN ARGUMENT TO THIS PROPAGANDA!!!!(3)Nintendo gamecube is better cause the games are better than xbox(which has pretty good graphics, not as good as gamecube)and brilliant power and graphics much better than the ps2. ITS ALSO A FACT THAT IT HAS MORE CPU POWER AND BETTER GRAPHICS.ARGUE WITH THAT PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!So SUCK SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Give a man an xbox and he will play it for 10 minutesGive a man a 64 and he will play it for an hourGive a man a snes and he will play it for a dayGive a man a ps2 and he will play it for a weekGive a man a gcn and you will never have to give again
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(1) Nintendo gamecube'kiddie games'nah dont think so!the gamecube has heaps of games released for older kids and adults,yep a few games that seem like kids games but in fact they are just as good for older gamers, they are games with a little humor and fun(the right touch if you cant be bothered playing an all out type game or are a younger gamer)nintendo thinks about all ages and produce brilliant games(unlike sony).Some people might come up with the argument PS2 is for older more expierenced gamers even though that is not true(then what the hell is the point of making a console)(2)Its a fact gamecube has more CPU power and better graohics than PS2, so why argue? I espcially remember the stupid fools that used to say that playstation had better graphis and more powerful than the N64 (apart from the fact the N64 had 64 bit graphics and more power)How the hell can you argue about that, facts are facts, is this how this PS2 vs GCN war is gonna be argued. PS2 fans making up propaganda and not accepting the truth even though they know there wrong(or are they that stupid and arrogant)by the way, great article GGCCNN. Im sure most GCN lovers will agree.
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ps2 was released before the gamecube so the idiots(who were impatient) could have a cheap,nasty and pathetic console.Then the gamecube was released for the smart, very skilled gamers could have a decent, respectable console.
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Ha ha! I laugh at you pathetic people.Give me an xbox and I'll thank you.Give me a gaypube and I'll POKE YOU IN THE FUCPeople saying that the xbox is making a loss for MS. Well no f**ken kidding there. Of course they are. They're gonna make their money back in the bloody games moron. Let's not forget that Australia, Europe and many other place DON'T HAVE THE BLOODY THING YET! Cor blimey, you need the Voice of God to get through you. praps if i is sppelin lik diz oo may standunder me?Bloody ps2 is a radiator.Ooo what was that, MS doesn't know how to made a console? Well, HOW MUCH RESEARCH DO YOU THINK THEY BLOODY DID?????? They didn't visit thousands of people round America just to sell lollipops k'know! You may want to slap down the shape of the controller too, BUT HAVE YOU USED IT? According to nearly all people who have disliked the look of it, actually really like it after using it.Now, before you respond with some really unwitty comment, or a wrong statistic, or some rumour that you started, just think about it. When the xbox has been launched globally for as long as the ps2 and gcn, take a look at the figures then.
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Apparenly (according to BBC news anyway) Microsoft has cash reserves in exess of THIRTY FIVE BILLION DOLLARS !!!!!!! They have just released a console made by the two best hardware companys in the world in a drive to diverisfy. Methinks (its english, read shakespeare if you dont belive me) Microsoft could buy the compotion out off petty cash. (but thats not fair, according to the join SUN/USA lawsuit, boo hoo!) I dont think they are going to have problems. oh and hey microsoft people, a few thousand free consoles would be nice, you can afford it!
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Hey Rutt, you're forgetting Shakespeare's grasp of English spelling was hilarious at best... He spelt his own name differently each time he was asked to write it =]'HOW MUCH RESEARCH DO YOU THINK THEY BLOODY DID??????' - Hehe Pineapples, I reckon the fact that they were perched on Sega's shoulder throughout the DC's life gave them a thoughtful insight into the Console world before they even did the Beta boxes of the Xbox. Like ya said, just because they are releasing their first console, doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing...Bah, you poke me in the eye and I'll beat you about the head with a heavy wooden pole :). Anyway, you could always sell the GP and make half the money you need to get a Xbox mate, and still poke the bloke's eye out who gave ya the machineAnd why are there a number of messages, written mere minutes apart by the same bloke who is pretending to be five different people? WE KNOW YOU'RE THE SAME GUY... Quit doing it. Damn goobersAnd go get a life Mr. 'I play Computer games for a living but don't seem to have the intelligence to figure out my name needs to be short to fit into this tagline, or am I just fobbing people off and pretending to be someone who plays computer games for a living (which, christ, is even sadder)'. Go out and get a real job and help the economy instead of festering in some immoval induced lard land. In case you were unaware, I doubt most parents (or general members of the public) can afford to purchase every latest machine that comes out, nor do they have any real desire to allow their children, or themselves, to sit around like f**kmunches all day 'playing'And what's with those game numbers? Wtf's going on? Shurrup you chump, Everyone's opinion is valid, not just yours or mine (although my opinion's obviously far more useful than yours. Natch)And Rutt... That's a lorra money. I could do with that kinda money in my pocket. I hear Gatesy is worth around 6 of those bigguns himself. Greedy baster
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propaganda, all propaganda u ps and xbox users talk all propaganda and not the realistic statistics inwhich gcn wins (look at the loading times!!!!)
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HAHAHA thats is great. Mad props to exo for reaming the gaming freak. It took me a while to find the message board again. Id like to say that im still gamecube and I think its still the best choice. Why should I pay 300 bones for a ps2 when ps3 will most likely be out within the next two years. And why should I pay 300 for the xbox that takes up the whole corner of my iving room with wasted features. By the way if anyone is upstate New York and knows where I can buy 3 official black gc controllers tell me cause theyre sold out all over.
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this article benefits the ones interested in buying one of these 3 consoles, which is my case and many others'. So it would be nice to keep the article updated
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my day today, not much, just a rumor that the PS3 will be out by the end of the year (not sure where or how acurrate that is.) and a devoted fan of Nintendo telling me that the GayPube's controler is the most uncomfortable hunk of plastic on earth (was it just me or did that sound rude?) What did I say, well releasing a PS3 that soon will finish Sony on the whole console thing, and as for the NGC. just buy one and keep it for when you get bored of your REAL games machine (from the sound of things they'll come free with corn flakes)
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gamecube rox!!! screw Xcrotch and Pms2
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I agree! Gamecube is The Best Console! XCROTCH and Piss-Shit-2 will burn in hell with Bill Gates!
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GCN RULZPS2.....OKxbox....HEY DONT DROP IT IT'LL BREAK
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Glad to see some people read the article so that they can learn something new instead of gibbering insanely :)Rutt, everyone I spoke to couldn't get enough of the NGC controller (if we're going on from your comment then this would still sound dodgy I suspect). Xbox controller reminds me of a cross between the SideWinder game pad (god they are wank) and the DC controller, which was brilliant, so I really don't mind, just as long as it works well (and I've heard mixed reports, as expected)I'm still tempted into buying another console, they seem to have a way of drawing you back in with their promises of non-crash gaming and lack of DirectX issues. Oh shit... Wait a second, the XBox DOES have those problems! AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAnd my boss gave me a PS2 for Chrimble, which is nice, so I don't need one of them now. Just the NGC to look at :) Maybe I will win one in a cracker... You never know
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Give me a gcn and i'll love it, play the games, cherish it and throw it round the room like the tough compact cube it isGive me a ps2 and i will own only gt3 and gt3 and play them for all eternity having so much funGive me an xbox and i will be so shocked by the size, drop it, and then it will break
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Must just make some addendums to my post having read what lies beneath (no, not some woman who leaps out of baths... And I am not Harrison Ford either)Rutt, I'm pretty sure that rumour is merely that, and not actually especially truthful. Sony still has to bring in the LAN functionality of the PS2 and even they aren't stupid enough to bring another console into the market right now (They are updating the PS2, but only in that it will come with better stuff later in the year, perhaps that was the source and it just got warped?)Was your mate a troll? ;) Ah well, each to his own, I don't like small mouses, but some people swear blind they rock. Others adore trackballs, but they give me cramp. Like I said, his call, and it's nice to finally find someone who disliked the NGC controllerNow get back into your, err, cave, you, uh, bringer of, ummm, 'propaganda'. Get back and take your flagrant pimping with you. I can read straight through you when you write: 'just a rumor' or 'telling me'You are just so fake maaaaaaaaan... Oh jees, I give up, I'm sorry Rutt, I just can't take all the lies=]
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Quick question why is everyone joking my way of dissing out the competition? get ure own slogan ya fuqerz....Ight here we go now im not gunna give u anotha PS2 Gaypube Xcrotch comercial ima lay it down reall easy for you... the best selling system this holdiday season has been PS2 now u cant deny it world wide and almost in any country....Those of you who say nintendo gapube sold more than u need to go read somthing from a trusted source and thats not on some .com that no ones heard of... those of you that say xcrotch sold more now u guys knoe ureselfves it didnt sell more lol u dont need to read anything....We got alota british peeps up in here i see and alota australians and u guys eem to think im disrespecting ure curency in some way lol guys are comparing curencys and are talking about me giving off propaganda... well see here your gaypubes will begettin that resident evil but well see wen part 4 come sout and if it dosent hit ps2 then you guys can go ahed and curse me out but u wait til resident evil 4 hits stores at teh end of this year cuz it will....Now u guys wana talk about the looks of ps2 well look at the fuken xcrotch its the size of my fuken vcr u dumbshyts! and gaypube is a fuken box with a fuken hadel! now what the fuk is that? i wouldnt go close to that shyt with my friends hands and other friends body....As far as im concerned i bought ps2 because of teh biggets veriety of games and the best games on the market now ure consoles can have experience they can have wings i didnt buy it for the dvd those of u who did well ure dumb shyts... i bought it for the gamesGrand Theft Auto 3... Metal Gear Solid 2... Final Fantasy 10.... Grand turismo 3... Devil May Cry... all of them are the chart topers right now tehy ar eteh mosts elling game on any system and i got my hands on all of em so i am very fuken happy now if ure system got games to beat these well iw ant ure console! but goess wha ure console dosent!!!!!!!!!!!So until ure
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almost forgot to say Lik DESE FUKENNNNNN NUTZZZZ ALL u ps2 Haterzzzz~~<=====================8^lik em!
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qpc.... I'd like to remind you that consoles are for putting in a cupboard near yer tv and playing with. NOT THROWING AROUND THE GOD DAMNED ROOM YOU c**k SUCKING RUG MUNCHER!Damn, if that ain't stupid, I dunno what is!
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Maybe he's only 2...Speaking of which, I remember a great editorial in the Sun (I think it was, maybe the Mirror) about a toddler who was having his mind warped because of games. He was about 3, and playing GoldenEye on N64 one handed. That's pure geniusLDNEZ, or Lez, as you shall henceforth be known. Shut up you goddam tramp. NGC and Xbox haven't been released in 9/10s of the world. Only in Japan and America, so for f**k's sake, how can they expect to compete, at Christmas, with a machine that is sold throughout the world, and has millions of items of stock in large warehouses because they sold shitely earlier in the year?What I am saying, if you would use those things from which you see in the front of your face (eyes, dear), is that both XBox AND NGC are selling better at THEIR launches than PS2 did at Sony's launchNow, I don't think I'm asking much of you here. I mean, this is all simple reasoning is it not? Hey I know, how about I spell it out again, using monosyllabic words and simple sentences?Here goes then, pay attention because you're a tosser and I am only doing this because I am waiting for someone to get back to me about some real life (wow, I hear you all say) subject:(Remember, these figures are US market only. I'm lazy)PS2 sold well at launch. *Clap clap*. They even sold out. Gosh. But in the first week, Sony had not sold more than 380,000 PS2's. OoooohXBox has sold well, MS sold 432,444 in week 1. This is good. The number is higher than Sony. This = betterNGC did best. 469,000 week 1 sales. Best. You see?---Now before anyone else has a go at me for writing such crap. I apologise, it is meant solely for Lez, who seems incapable of logical thought, and instead tries to compare the sales of a machine that has near infinite stocks and has been around over a year, to a machine that sells out each week and came out 2 months ago...I don't care which f**king console you buy. I just don't like pillocksAnd a
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bugger, it ate my funny comment at the end. I am not amused. Here it is again anyway =]---And arguing is my second favourite past timeOh, and Pineapples, you tell that plum. Perhaps he doesn't realise that the term 'Collision Detection' refers to character interactions WITHIN a game...
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I remeber seeing a TV prog in which they claimed that Doom causes American school kids to shoot each other. Based on the fact that 2 people who have just played against each other on a console beat-em-up, want to hurt each other. Not real scientific.Exo, does that mean in 5-10 years that kid will be trying to hurt people ?(if he's like the average kids round my way he'll be a violent criminal thug.)Mr Nuts. wrong end. also: if you manage to write a vagely legible post, then I might actually read it :)Mr nnnah gcn (NGC fool!) only one problem, I dont work for Microsoft (I just find the actions of the companys RESPOSIBLE for it success amusing) and, propoganda (just find that in a book did we? you are rather fond of it!) is normaly lies. Advertising isnt, thats illegal. oh and I did say RUMOR!hey Exo, any idea how the heck they are going to add all this extra capability to the PS2, and purswade (?) developers to spend lots of money coding for it? (see my earlyer post aboot HDD for PS2)I have played on a PS2, not impresed.If you chuck your NGC round the room it will break. If you drop your Xbox you are a clumsy fool, and it will still work. (hard disks are surprisingly robust) oh, exept on all the pics I've seen it has a seagate HDD, oh dear, the death of a thousand bad sectors?oh and I will bitch slap you all because pimping isnt easy and I have a car full of hoes (ow!) and you dont know me! and word up MF (add all the rude word you know) beacuse I AM the bomb, all that AND a bag of chips
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I meant to add, !!!!This is an official post the propaganda leader!!!! (apparently)Argueing is also my second favorite pastime 8)
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Xbox is full of shit.I own the GameCube, and it kicks ass. Ps2 is good too, but Gcn is da best. What you people dont realize is that Xbox can catch viruses when u play online! And u cant even remove the fukn virus. Then the hard drive will get fuked up and there goes the Xcrotch (300 bucks wasted) (450 wasted for the canadians.) If Microshit were to add some quality to the Xcrotch it would cost more! And since they use money to wipe their asses they dont wanna waste a cent on more important stuff. PS2 and GCN will stand on top.
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And another thing. Microsoft always promises the best but they give u the worst!
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Rutt, judging by the age of today's Skanks, he could be out and about stealing from local shops within the month... Next time some of them come in, I'm going to murder them and hide the bodies; no one would notice anywayAbout the PS2, I assume it's gonna form a part of the bundles later this year. As well as being salable as stand alone kit. As far as the HDD kit goes, I have no official word from Sony that they are definitely going ahead. So I don't think that's gonna happen at allOn another note though, you can always use the USB port and hook it up to a PC LAN. Also, using external storage (USB Hard drives perhaps not ;P) I think is possible since the PS2, like it's peers, uses an OS of sortsMegaman, I know that they have got cars to run on shit, but I doubt they have consoles which can do so yet (they'd stink out your room anyway)You one of those Linux users or do you just have a dislike for the enormous successes of a single man (who admittedly 'stole' Windows from someone else =])Look at it this way; XBox is a far better built machine, with FAR better quality component, than a standard Dell, Tiny, Time, etc. PCSo shurrup ya gimp, I don't like it either, but I, at least, can recognise what it is made from
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Ok Im back. And how the hell do you guys type so much while im gone. So ill touch base on some old stuff. There are a couple things wrong with the gc controller like too small of a d pad and no z type button on the left but its still damn better than the xbox that puts your fingers into a point, has virtually inexcessable black and white buttons, and a even more uncomfortable d pad control stick combo. If I played that for more than 10 min id be one hurtin guy. For PS2 its nice having the controller the same cause there is no shortage of button and your already used to it, but the analog sticks suck and you know you guys wish that do all x button was a few sizes bigger like the gc a button. As far as games go PS2 is the winner so far. Theyve been out the longest, and the got some damn col games. I mean who out there didnt see gta3 and just want to go out and get road head. I still feel however that in the end if nintendo actually supports the system it will turn out better. They know that they arnt gonna make it by only seling pokemon. They said themselves that theyve had good success with games based for older folks like conker. They at one point put n the nintendo website, yes thats a real source, that they were intending to but adult games onto the cube. Many of those titles that you consider kid games just arnt. Mario and luigigames are always good. Mario 64 was by far one of the best games ever and even with the absence of a jump button luigis mansion is damn cool. And to let you all now I also think pokemon sucks. Its a shittier version of a ff ripoff. And by the way lets see a damn FINAL final fantasy already. The bastards just never stop making them. And i think finally we are all in agreement here that the xbox has turned into a huge waste of time and money. It sucks. I mean I walk by stores with play able demos and i see these shitty puzzle games, or a car thats a cartoon that shoots. Come on microshaft. Lets see some real games for
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They cut off my damn thing. Ok well I was saying that microshaft need to make some good on all there power under the hood, or go back home to unstable operating systems.
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'I mean I walk by stores with play able demos and i see these shitty puzzle games' - LoL, that makes me think of Atari's Jaguar :)'They cut off my damn thing' - Man, that's GOT TO HURT. I cringe for you man ;)Man, better get back on topic for my next post hadn't I?
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Uh, and stop writing 'man' everywhere. What do ya think I am? A pimp like Rutt or something?
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exo shut up already!
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They're onto me already!
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Actually the Gamecube IS a kiddie console, thats what its makers target audience is, and that is who the games are designed for. Im afraid if any adult buys this you got some serious issues man. Ok anyway now on to fact 2, The gamecube is graphically weak, its CPU and graphics chip are its weakness, In all modern games polygons are the key, its what every new game uses, and its the abilty to draw them and fill them that is everything, so look at thisPolygon PerformanceXbox 116.5 million/secPS2 66 million/secGamecube 12 million/secSo as you can see, the PS2 HAS got more power than a gamecube, by quite a bit as well. And the xbox is 10 times more powerful.
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I think you're mistaking the numbers shown for the make believe ones falling from the sky...Yes, theoretically the Xbox could push 116.5million/s. But these would be polygons, all of the same colour, with no shading or texturing performed on them. What you would see would be a mass of black squares (Well, you wouldn't see them actually since the background would be black and there would not be a lightsource)The same deal goes with the PS2. The output that Sony claim is possible is merely the peak. An output only made possible when using the most basic polygon and NO shading, colouring, texturing or lighting. Some game that would be (mind you, it would probably still rival Fifa in terms of playability...)The Nintendo estimate, as always, is the opposite. It is given while the machine pushes out about 300,000 little Mario figures, each with about 100,000 polygons. With about 6 lightsources and using the full 8 (I think) layers that the NGC can use.If we're going to compare numbers, at least use a ratio that provides a level playing fieldIn reality, the Silicon Graphics driven Graphics chip of the GC has more options than any of its competitors, it has more power even than the XBox GPU (and it doesn't have to share its memory with the CPU either)True enough, raw power wise, it is not the biggest hitter. But Nintendo has ALWAYS made it's machines with finesse, rather than brute force. The SNES had a 3.5Mhz clock, compared to the MegaDrive's 7.4, despite the fact it came out about 2 years later. It made up for it because the graphics, sound, and memory Ninny used was more efficient (as was the CPU, despite being slower)
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