Does sex belong in video games?

Mass Effect Sex


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Tits and ass are incredibly prevalent in modern society. Sex is used to sell products in advertising, actors are shamefully primped into digitally crafted sex symbols and TV shows like Toddlers in Tiaras, stretch the definition of acceptable television viewing. Sex is everywhere, but oddly, not in our games.

With the recent pulling of No Reply Games' sex focused, interactive story 'game' “Seduce Me” from Valve's Greenlight service due to breaking of the terms and conditions – for being an “offensive” title – sex is back in the headlines of gaming websites the world over, all of them asking the question, “does sex belong in video games?”

It could be argued that games purely focused around sex are pornographic in nature and therefore warrant some sort of segmentation perhaps, in the way it is with websites and traditionally with stores that cater specifically to it.

But what about games that just feature sex as a feature or component of the overall experience?

Every time a popular title attempts to put anything sex like in its games that goes beyond a fade to black and some grunts, there's a problem. Look at GTA: San Andreas' Hot Coffee mod, or the blue side boob that appeared for a brief second in Mass Effect 2. It all gets blown out of proportion, people that haven't even played the game or seen footage of the event start screaming “save the children,” and to some it seems as if the world is going to end.

Of course it never does and children are as corrupted as their parents allow them to be. These games have age ratings for a reason and if parents choose to ignore them it's their responsibility to set it right, or at least explain things to their kids so they understand and learn about the adult activity in a constructive way.

But should it be there in the first place? Well the obvious answer would be yes, for a variety of reasons.

1: Taking into consideration the age ratings I mentioned earlier, the average gamer is in their 30s at this point. Not only have they had sex, they've been living with internet pornography for over 15 years. Believe me, unless you're doing a game adaptation of The Serbian Film, this is nothing we haven't seen before.

2: Unless it's Manhunt, where ritualistic killing was censored because... it's the game the lobby groups decided to go after, murder barely raises an eyebrow from anyone. Killing is rampant in games. Just look at the fast Paragon leveller in Diablo III. He's killed almost two million monsters alone. If he can commit mass murder, why can't a game have a sex scene in it?

3: Sex is a part of life. For anyone that doesn't know, it's how babies are made. Shocking I know, but we all began our life at a moment of parental coitus and society is slowly beginning to lose the taboo. It's still there – and enjoyed by many – but the simple fact is that sex shouldn't be considered a naughty thing any more. It's in films, in advertising, television and there is absolutely no reason it shouldn't be in our games.

However, despite these very obvious reasons that sex should be included in games and accepted by the public as a simple part of the artistic medium, the blame isn't entirely on the shoulders of complainers. Game developers could also help the cause out.

Despite the criticism for its leud content, Mass Effect actually has an incredibly impressive and deeply emotional erotic part to it but it is a rarity. More often than not, we get adventurers fucking hookers, or silly quick time sex games or button mashing to fuck harder. This isn't the type of thing that detractors of sexual content in gaming are going to agree with, probably ever.

No I'm not saying that because lobbyists and complainers have stale sex lives that games should be the same, but there isn't a reason that sex can't be used as an emotional connector between characters either.

Games focused around getting the clothes off of a digital woman should be just as allowed to exist in our gaming spheres as the latest AAA blockbuster, but they don't further the cause of sex in video games as much as they could.

Not only do I believe that sex deserves to be a part of gaming, I think it deserves to have more credit as a part of the emotional story within a game. It doesn't need to be your character just getting his rocks off, or a nudge-nudge-wink-wink from the developers saying “we know what you gamers want, digital titties,” but a real way for players to connect with a character.

We talked a few weeks about about how Lara Croft's surviving of an attempted rape could be used to delve into all sorts of new character emotions within a game. How about include a sex scene in that game not long after the rape and make it optional. Have it so that players can decide. If she goes along with it, perhaps Lara is emotionally distracted and merely trying to forget a horrific experience, thereby not building a relationship with the male counterpart. Perhaps if she says no, players can learn something about his character.

Sex is a massive motivator in human life and it should be used in games as well, not just as a treat or a laughable aside, but a real part of the gameplay. It can be part of the story and part of the world the developers create.

It doesn't always have to be, just as not every single racing game has to be a sim like experience, but just now and again I'd like to see some real effort put into sex.

That last line could have been phrased better.

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dude, use common sense, what

dude, use common sense, what do you think average means? not all but average. meaning variants on both ends so sure 12, 13, hell even 4, 5 , and 6 year olds, but also 50, 60, and 70. so average is just that around 30s

100% Agreement, in Emotional Essence

Playing Mass Effect Trilogy, i got my first sex scene/relationship kickoff.. and i actually felt idk how to say it but happy, like i was actually in a relationship with this character i felt attached to/like i knew her my whole life, but the moral of the story im trying to get at is, when an option came up to sleep with another character, i said no, because that paticular scene made me feel like i was really in a commited relationship with ashley, and i said no cause i felt like it would ACTUALLY hurt the characters feelings and it felt as though, id feel like an ******* for doing that to her, so this would be a good example of the topic as that sex scene made me actually feel for that character as if she was a real person, and it was that "romance scene" that really made it official, sounds stupid i know, but with a good game,with options like mass effect, you really do grow feelings for these ppl, and if they die, you get ****** and sad, if they get mad at you, you feel like a ****, and if sex is maturely put into video games, it can be a groundbreaking gamechanger as to how you feel about these characters, and as he said.. sex is an everyday part of life, the people that banned these games, most likely went home to there wives, and commited the same act they are taking a part in banning in the video game environment, i think people are being immature. you might as well say this game cant be made, i dont want to get cooties. SPARE ME, grow up, open your eyes, and unplug your ears, and open up to the fact that sex is human nature, weve been doing it since the first recorded human civilization.. DEAL WITH IT

Dude you are absolutely right

Dude you are absolutely right. I played through the Mass Effect trilogy also. Except, Ashley was the surviving teammate throughout till Mass Effect 3. Every decision I made she was against. I remember becoming so angry with her. Even though its a game, you just become so involved with these characters you build an emotional attachment. I remember the big argument midway through ME3 that decides wether she stays on the citadel or come back to the Normandy. I went the route that told her she wasn't welcome back. But I did tell her it was great she became a Specter(I think that's what it is). The decision making and conversation directions you can choose in Mass Effect are in my opinion the best in business of gaming.

video games

when is the next A-O ***** Only game coming out for any kind of game counsel like Xbox or PlayStation? and yes I 100% support having sex in video games as I can never find a video game thats all about dating chicks and then having sex or a military game that has some brutal sex scenes. I want to play a game thats like seeing the movie hostle but with thee actual Blood Buts 'n Gore. a game that you can kill in many many ways and **** in many ways. I want to be able to behead someone and then drink his blood then cut open his body and eat the organs or **** a girl. whip her with a spike chain then cut her up and **** her. Thats what I really wanna do in a video game but non are hardcore. why? this question is to strike up a conversation. spread the word of my serious questions that actually need answers for


OK, first, let me start by saying that the author is 100% correct. There is a ratings system for a reason. If you CHOOSE to ignore those ratings and buy a Mature rated game for your underage child, then it is YOUR responsibility to deal with those consequences. The raising of your child is your own responsibility. More and more I see younger generations acting out in ways that would have gotten us, as children, a belt or tabasco/soap in the mouth to teach us that what we were doing was wrong and that there were repercussions to our actions. Am I against child abuse? YES, but there are some instances where a spanking is called for. Parents these days seem to be less focused on their children and more focused on their jobs, or gossip, etc. If you, as a parent, aren't comfortable with your child being exposed to certain things, then don't buy a game for them where those things are listed in the rating. Every game store I've been to warns the buyer of the content and gives them the option not to buy it. Why should the portion of the gaming community that actually IS mature and doesn't mind being exposed to these things be punished because of the fears of those who have no business raising a child in the first place? Society has grown too ignorant of the realities of life and the world. I grew up in the computer/gaming age. The time when the industry first got off the ground. In the time of the original DOOM and Wolfenstein and Super Nintendo. Everything was new, but there were still gore and sexual innuendos hidden that werent controversial at all. God forbid your child is exposed to sex in video games. If this was really the issue, then you'd be crying outrage at television, movies, and books. Why hasn't this happened? Because those are all "accepted" formes of artistic expression. What about paintings or drawings by many well-known artists? There's plenty of gore and sexual innuendo there. Hell, there's even a lot of nudity. But, wait, it's an "accepted" medium of expression. Why should video games be held to different standards?

Get over it

It WILL happen. Ignorant parents and clueless customers shouldn't be surprised if this ends up in a "M" rated game. It states at the back of the game case: "Blood/Gore/Use of Drugs/Nudity/Extreme Violence etc". Don't like it? Don't by it. I can guarantee that we will be seeing it a lot more in the future, not too far from now. If it tells a story and helps people understand characters/scenarios etc then it has every right to be in a "M" rated game. The whole debate about this topic isn't even necessary. Grow up people. Especially you, ***** parents.

Glad this subject is being talked about...

At the risk of breaking the internet, or the sky caving in, I am a British female gamer in my mid 30s. It is not my intention to offend the religious, or the bigoted, or those of delicate sensibility but I would like to say that I agree 100% with the author of this article. It has long been a frustration of mine (excuse the pun) that games aimed at adults, i.e. those rated 18+, are so prudish about sex. You can have blood, violence and death by the bucketload but would a glimpse of nipple really traumatise the masses? I accept that some people don't want to see sex in games, and like those who have already made such comments before me, I would implore you to simply avoid games which contain content that you are not comfortable with and stop trying to dictate to the rest of us what we should and shouldn't be allowed to see. The Mass Effect series and both Witcher games are some of my favourites and this is mainly because of the mature themes, the depth of story and my emotional engagement with the characters I was playing and those around them. In my honest opinion, the only thing that would have improved these games would be not to have my immersion broken by fading to black at any moment of intimacy. I am not afraid of my body nor of sexual imagery. In fact, I found the avoidance of the subject in Age of Conan particularly peculiar given the harsh and brutal setting. The world we live in can be a hard and cruel place and closing our eyes to this doesn't make it go away. Sex can be a beautiful and natural thing or it can be horrific and terrifying but it is a part of life and I would like to see this reflected in the games I choose to play, as it is in the books I choose to read or the films and television programs I choose to watch. I am an ***** and I would like to be treated as such. In closing, I would like to add that I am happy and healthy and in a long-term relationship with the love of my life, and I consider myself reasonably well-adjudsted.

Sex is here to stay in games

Does sex belong in video games? Only softcore. First off, this isn't the 1800's anymore. Views on sex and relationships has changed since then. Everything from simple fan service to hardcore porn is more commonplace. Some people say sex is sacred, but so are relationships - a sacred commitment, and yet people are divorcing left and right and remarrying to have sex with others like it's nothing. Since these things happen more frequently nowadays, I can't view sex as sacred as it used to be. Today, visual sex appeal (male and female) is used to draw in an audience towards a particular type of interest - in this case, games. Gaming started off as being something mainly males enjoy. So what did developers do? They used a feature that appeals to males: sex. Throwing scantily-clad females in media isn't meant to disrespect females. It has been done with other male interests such as playboy, automobile/racing mags, FHM, Maxim, etc. However, unlike some magazines that'll forever only appeal to males, gaming is a neutral ground, having both male and female company. Because of the increase of female gamers, sex appeal in games now is becoming an issue. Developers then decided to take the next step: actual sexual encounters between the characters. It's been done in other written media, why not games? If you're going to argue about sex being in games, then you may as well argue about sex being in books and movies as well. Games, books, and movies all have something in common - they all have a story to tell, and they all use sex as a feature to display the bond between love interests. Because of this reason alone, I think sex should be allowed in games, as a side feature - used to tell a story, because I see it as just another intimate factor such as kissing. However, I do believe the level of the sexual encounter needs to be limited. Ratings should be enforced and parental responsibilities should be exercised as well. Hardcore sex or too many sex scenes may ruin the gaming experience regardless of the rating. If I want to play a porn game, then I'll just do so. Softcore sex (nudity without genitals, partial nudity/undergarments, or even a silhouette) in games should be the max, and should only last long enough to get the point across.

Give it a F***ing break

Come on, MK games have had gore going beyond the reasonable and girls that might as well be naked with how scantily clad they are and how overblown the effects on their **** are. There's violence and gore rampant throughout games and sexual innuendo enough to make a person want to throw up, but sex is where we draw the line? What's the point of labeling a game mature if you're not going to treat the gaming audience as if they were mature? I like rpgs and a factor that is becoming more prominent in rpgs is romance with party members, and sex is part of that dynamic. The thing about these portions of video games is that they're optional. No one is forcing you to play this portion of the game, and there's always the option to skip the scene if you want to play through the romance but don't feel like watching a sex scene. I personally don't care about the sex scenes, but I do feel that the interactive romance aspect of rpgs is an amusing addition and that the cheesy alternatives that they have come up with are just ridiculously stupid, however if it falls to removing them entirely or including them in a more realistic manner I'd rather they include them in a more realistic manner.

Oh my God. Really? What is

Oh my God. Really? What is wrong with all of you liberal/left wing nuts? I am Seventeen, and my parents exposed me to movies with sex, drugs, and violence early on, coupled with sitting down and explaining to me what I heard/saw. Not just that but telling me why what was shown was wrong if it was, and then telling me the consequences of actions if I choose to replicate what ever it was I had viewed. Want to the know the punch line? I am in a stable four year long relationship. We don't make love, we don't have sex (And yes, there is a difference.), and that's because we know what could happen, not because we were told not too. I don't do drugs, never touched the stuff. I don't drink, and I don't believe in violence unless in self defence. And even then I was raised with martial arts training and so I believe in restraint. If you don't want your kid to see something then don't let them. If you don't want your kid to know something, don't let them. If you don't want them to hear somethin, your s*** out of luck. Its the parents responsibility to teach their children about the world and everything in it. And then furthermore, its your child's responsibility to behave like a decent human being. Life is full of choices, and NOTHING, except yourself, tells you what to do. And as a parent, you have to trust that you taught your child all you could, so they can make the right choices. And furthermore if you all want to know what is really wrong with the world? Zero Accountability. No one wants to be responsible for their own mistakes.


Don't make this as if this is nature. It isn't. It is not humane and no where near civilization. As a matter of fact, the thing is, the more civilized we are, the more we should learn to respect one another. That's the way to go. Sex and all those kinds of porn-ish stuff are dated back in caveman days. Women half naked or naked, men too, this is not the future. Games is games, sex is sex. You combine those two it is a conflict. It ruins the game's definition. It's not cool. Maybe you're fine with all those, but your mindset is not. It is not making you to be normal as humane. Even if you don't do crack and drink, the others out there may not be same as you.


No.. Just no. I agree with some of these people, sex is a private thing meant to be between two lovers. Depictation of sex these days in media and in real life are already out of whack. People think sex is the course of bonding between two friends or "Friends with benefits" and that it's a natural thing. Yes it's natural, yes it makes babies, yes it's a part of human life. Does it need to be shown to the world? No. You don't show people when you take a **** every few hours do you? You don't show your feces to other people do you? Oh but it's natural. Do you show people the genital herpes or such that you get to other people? No but it's natural. You got it "naturally" by the same **** thing you're trying to push into our games. As stated above. No one wants to see it in public. You wanna watch people get their freak on, then go watch porn. There's hundreds of sites with free porn on them . Fan of hentai? They have that too. But for god's sakes, I don't wanna see it in my games. For those who complain about kids playing killing games but bash those about the sex games: Killing games are one thing, and to be honest I wouldn't let my child play a Call of Duty-type game unless he or she were mature enough to play. The children playing these games usually have parents that don't care or irresponsible. But it all comes down to maturity. As for sex games, that's a given, you simply don't show that to kids, or in public for that matter. Let's be real here. The only people who want the sex in games just want it because they wanna get their rocks off while doing the other most favorite thing of their life, gaming. That's the average gamer these days, sex and gaming. Stop making excuses "Oh it's in media" "Oh it's artistic" "Oh it's BLAH BLAH" I don't give a ****. It's not artistic. What's artistic about sex? It's only in media because lust-filled dumbasses like you are putting it there. So let me make myself clear for those who don't understand and have sex on the brain 24/7 and need a breakdown to comprehend this: Sex is not artistic. Sex should not be public, it's a bond between two lovers. Games should be as it always was, a form of entertainment and amusement, not lustful satisfaction. If you have urges, go ******* watch porn, or better yet, get off this computer, go find a girl, and do that. You probably do anyways (or probably half of you don't even have girlfriends/boyfriends). Get a life people god!

your argument seems to be

your argument seems to be less about sex in games and more about sex in general. sex and dealing with the emotions surrounding it are a big part of art because artists usually try to find a way to "help understand" or "make sense" or "recreate the emotional connection" not just to a partner but to the world around them. does it have to be gratuitous and NC-17-worthy? no. Dan In Real Life was a great movie that basically revolved around sex and sexual tension, but there was no graphic nudity, and it was sill a very powerful movie. so no-one should experience this movie because it's all about sex? artists shouldn't be allowed to talk about sex and process it in a way for the populous to manage themselves? in fact, should we even be talking about sex in public? war and murder is ok, we can talk about those, but sex? nonononono, WAAAAY too taboo. if your point is that there's too much sex used by the media to exploit weakness (usually to sell something--or run for president if you're Sarah Palin), then tell me something i don't know. if your point is that sex disgusts you in any form, and that creating a "work of art" in whatever medium to try and explain/articulate all the complex emotions behind it should not only NOT BE MADE but to have all the creative energy behind it REPRESSED, just because you "don't wanna see it", then quite frankly every artist on the planet is going to tell you to go **** yourself

I get what you're saying...

I get what you're saying... but... For example. In movies. People say sex in unnecessary there too. If Kyle Reese hadn't laid Sarah Connor, John Connor never would've been born and the machines would've won man! YOU WANT THE MACHINES TO WIN? All joking aside. Take something like that, with all the weight, consequence, and everything and imagine it as a video game. Is it dirty? No. And how the hell are video games public? You keep saying sex is private. Excuse me while I go take my video game console, hook it up to the HD flat at McDonalds and play a rated mature game in front of everyone. I'll play the games I want in the PRIVACY of my own home. So shut up with your sex should be private rant. It is private. It's just ALSO talked about. Doesn't mean we're ******* on your front lawn. Jesus. Not to mention you can CHOOSE which games you buy. You don't have to buy the ones that say "Stong Sexual Content" you tightwad. Just like you don't have see movies with sex in them. There are MPAA rating descriptors. Websites where you can find out specifics. ALSO sex in video games isn't about satisfying lustful urges (in the ones that matter), its about a fuller gaming immersive experience. Imagine going through life being told you can never have sex cause just no. I'm not saying ALL games need sex. But in the games where it's fitting, there is NO reason why not. The game in question also probably features graphic killing, probably cursing, and drug use. Please explain to me why a basic biological function has no place in a game, when you can slaughter an entire village of innocent people in the medieval game of your choice, and THATS okay. No problem there right?

Artistic sex

There actually can be such a thing as artistic sex, or at least sex used for an artistic purpose. Literature has done this for centuries, classics such as the Faerie Queen or Canterbury Tales (The Miller's Tale in particular) have sections that are completely about sex and sexual imagery. If I was a better English major I could probably list hundreds of titles that use sex in their story. So, here's the question, why? Why do they do this? You stated the very reason yourself "it's a bond between two lovers" Sex should be, physically and emotionally, the closest you ever come to another human being. It is the most intimate and terrifying relationship you can have, it is also a cultural milestone, something people, especially men, need to experience. There is a reason virgin adults are mocked by our society, we see them as inadequate in some way. So if games are to reach the same standards as Literature and Film, if they are to invoke the same deep questions about what it means to be human, then shouldn't all options be available to them, and such a common and deep connection as sex is a powerful force for storytelling. It can be so much more than it is now and I think we could have truly revolutionary games if this was ever done perfectly

Wow in-between gross over

Wow in-between gross over-exaggeration and misinterpretation I am at a near loss for words. Going from sex in video games to feces, herpes, and "watching people get their freak on". Yes true it is a natural part of life and it would be wrong to say we need to hide it. If more people spoke about such topics then maybe herpes wouldn't be such an issue? Yes one can say " I don't agree, rah, rah, rah." but than simply not purchase said product. As you said yourself you wouldn't let your child play Call of Duty than why would would that change with a game like Leisure Suit Larry? It should be all in the responsibility of the parent/guardian what is acceptable or not. There is a reason for the ESRB, right? Why should we let a (mind you very loud) small group of people dictate what should be produced? It'd be like me saying foreign films should be produced cause " I don't want to Read a movie!". Highly selfish and sad view I'd say. Just sick of all the cries for the children when the same standards (if not more lenient in movies, music, and t.v. than the average game rating) don't even get a mention. Hypocritical.

sex in games

i too have reservations on having sex as part of games in general but as was stated before , it does help you see into a character like lara croft . If maybe she had it rough when she was younger growing up could it be perhaps something to that effect that made strong and clearly bad *** and cant touch this attitude. and no it does have to be 24/7 on the brain but hte fact is , is that no matter where you look today sex is public it is in the open world it is on billboards for all to see , in books and magazines , television , you name it it shows it in some way. Taking a walk down the street you come across younger and younger girls for instance wearing less and less clothes or completely revealing clothes, and as i had said before . It is everywhere . you speak not showing the world sex , that it should remain between lovers and so on but you cant change the way people think . Sex sells and that is the cold hard truth of life in society today. Personally I almost dont want to have children for the fact people are blind to fact they are worried about whats happening in video game (a work of fiction) than they are about for example , what you would see in music videos or movies that are pg13 but happen to express sex in a 18 and up way. So do i care about sex in games not really but you complain but you dont try to stop it in anyway so i say give it to them sex in games , why , cause you cant **** up the world anymore then it already is when it comes to sex . im ashamed of being part of a society that revolves around sex but no matter what the more they complain the more violent they will become with their desires. you cant change the world............. unfortunately .




I don't think there should be sex in games unless developers want to make games specifically for that. Either that or it needs to be optional or implied instead of shown, because I don't want to have to pick and choose my games just because I don't want to see that crap. Yes it's in advertising, movies, tv, etc, but it really shouldn't be there either. It's private and shouldn't be used in mass media of any form. If people want that, then have a special market for it where you can know exactly what you're getting instead of mixing it in with other video games/tv/movies etc. A lot of people, like myself, don't want to see it. For something that should be kept private anyway, it needs its own special market and to be non-existent in the regular market. Like I said, make it implied or something. You don't need to show anything in order to make the characters connect better. Those details aren't needed and have nothing to do with making the game a good game. As long as it's implied via dialogue or something like that, that should be good enough for you all. If it's not, go watch porn or play ero games and don't subject the rest of us to it.


i believe you said you don't want to have to pick and choose games. first of all that inplies you buy any old crap as long as it is branded a game. and if you don't want to see sex don't again the ratings come into play most sex would be implied or it would have a higher rating if you don't want it don't get R rated games easy fix and woth lack of details if it was just "some guy wanted to have sex with lara croft she didn't want it now she is sad" people would have just dropped it because the detail makes the difference

Sex is a big part of human

Sex is a big part of human world its 2nd only to Eating, so as one of the top 3 nature instinct humans have you'd think why should they deliberately leave sex out in games? We are already in a society that parents don't care either way what their child watches and its their fault not the developers of games. If you don't want to be subjected to it then either don't play the game or skip it either way no kid under the age of 16 should watch anything with sex in it. Blame the parents for not trying hard enough to stop their kids, if as much as 1 parent fails at their job their kids teach other kids bad stuff.


No kid under 16 should watch anything with sex in it? Why? Is sex dangerous somehow? Will it scar people for life by watching something that is as natural as breathing or eating? The main reason, in my opinion, people think that children shouldn't be subjected to sexual imagery and thoughts is because adults try to make it bad for them by making it shameful, taboo plays a big role here. Looking at other animals you can see that even sex between adults and children exists (most notably apes, whom we are closely related to), as a natural part of their lives. Of course, we illegalize sex with children because we don't want them exploited, but there's nothing intrinsically wrong with it. We make it shameful, and our children have to pay for it. So, on to sexual imagery again. How exactly does sexual imagery increase the exploitation of children? So, blame parents and society (and perhaps most notably, religion) for making sex shameful I say. And blame the educational system for not bringing up sex earlier. If sex wasn't considered shameful, and to many, a sinful act - then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Games with murder in them don't make psychopathic killers out of people, and sex in games don't make sexual predators or exploit cases out of people. Sex is private and should be between lovers? Perhaps to you, so are you people saying that you have sex with your TV-screen when there is a sex-scene? There's quite a difference between watching a sex-scene and engaging in it. Isn't kisses between lovers as well? So why don't I see you complaining about kissing in films and games? Again, sex is the issue, not privacy or "between lovers". There are so many other private things that are shown in films and games, and yet everything is about sex. I notice how my family (parents, the children adopt the reaction) reacts when there's a sex-scene, it's "Hrm hrm!!" or "*moans* quickly change channel or fast forward!". I was going to say it's childish, but a child wouldn't react that way unless an ***** taught it to. Taught it to fear sex, taught it that it's shameful. So now we have loads of children and teenagers (and people who never grow out of it) who fear their bodies, their sexuality and their thoughts. To be horny and lust becomes a thought-crime. Not only that, children and teenagers who grow up in religious homes (thankfully, not all religious parents force their beliefs on their children) will even think that some pervert god is listening to every thought and watches their every move. Touching yourself? Shame on you! TL:DR version: Shame on parents, society and religion for making sex shameful.

You may be wrong...

Actually, I'd be inclined to say that yes, sex should be restricted from younger eyes, just as violence is. We keep sex extremely obscure in film and television for younger viewers because quite simply their minds and bodies are not ready for that kind of thing yet. Once you start allowing that kind of imagery in to the younger population you're opening avenues you really should rather see closed. That said, sex in gaming... as it was put in the original article I agree that sex is a strong emotional connector. When it's done well, it gives you, the player, a great deal of affection for the character you have been playing, as well as those you're surrounded by. Done poorly, some people will still enjoy it and those that don't will just go "Well that was a bad game". Done Well and Done Poorly are kind of complex though, which is why it's a good thing in general (That sentence was horrible.) Sex, like violence, can help to define a character purely because it's another influence in their lives. The more techniques available to a storyteller, the truer a character you will be able to find. Besides, in the case of Mass Effect you didn't have alien ******* shoved in your face... it was a choice you made as a player, and if you didn't see it coming you probably need to get out more. All in all, yeah, I think sex has its place in video games... Honestly I think it's largely doing well as it is right now. I don't see anything in games I wouldn't read in my chosen fantasy books, nor read in those books I wouldn't see in a game... but hey, expression 'n all that. Long story short: NO U

violence restricted from younger eyes?

let me quote a few lines from a great "children's" movie series that i saw when i was a child: -- "i had to SLIT A FEW THROATS, but i got it!" -- "You've heard of the golden rule, haven't you? he who has the gold MAKES THE RULES" -- "i'm giving you your reward! YOUR ETERNAL REWARD!" (pulls a dagger out of his cloak) -- (laughing) "you dirty little thief!" -- (punches a man in the face) "THAT was for RUINING my wedding!" \\ any guesses? if you said Disney's Aladdin series (the movies, not the terrible TV show), then you're right! but i got no prize for you :( the point is, when you talk about slitting throats, corruption of power, theft, and violence as retribution, give it to millions of people for them to watch (disguised as a "kid's movie", might i add), and a few of them just happen to turn into bad apples ... it doesn't really prove the artform had anything to do with their actions, and restricting sex, like restricting violence, won't change that (as this movie BEING MARKETED TO KIDS isn't exactly "restricting violence" as you posted before). as for approaching my kids' attitudes towards sex, i'm less like my "it's only a movie, just ignore it" parents and even less like my "(awkward humming and hawwing)" half-retarded high-school teachers, and more along the lines of "you're obviously getting older, so i'll give you some basic info so you're not gonna have a terribly awkward social life like i did; just be smart about who you do it with and what protection/precautions you need to take, because you don't want to deal with the worst case scenario just yet." i'd rather be realistic about it than try to deny it altogether. if your son was getting beaten up every day on the playground at school, would you tell him to run to a teacher and get labelled a tattle-tale & keep the violence coming, or would you teach him a few quick moves to win a fight and get the ****** to leave your son alone? do you think the big bad bully is suddenly gonna rat? look like a tattle-tale to his bull-headed friends? it's like a drug dealer rattin to the cops so he can get less time in jail: someone else is gonna make sure he winds up dead. why? CUZ HE WENT TO THE COPS!! believe it or not, fighting fire with fire can work sometimes. embrace it, don't deny it

sex in games

So... aren't these games that include nudity or sex 16 +? Mass effect 3, The Witcher 2. Far cry 3 etc. They add to real life situations and feelings, curiosity, caring for your partner, excitement. and so on, it just adds more depth to the game. For me, the GTA mod that enabled you to control your character while having sex with your partner was over the top, unless you want to sit there for an hour jerking off to something like that. Sex is apart of life and is natural, its not something that should be focused on, but controlled so its not to over the top. Mass effect 3 or Witcher 2 makes it tasteful and sexy, same as many other games. we buy mature games, as in 18+ games for adults, so lets be treated like adults.

porn in games

So kids can kill, shoot, stab, and do everything else that goes in games but people wanna cry over a little bit of sex or ****. Grow the f*** up and quit b**ching ssabout something you do NOT have to be a part of. It is completely your choice to pick up a video game and play or your kids to play sel

well i dont think thats what it is

I think parents just want their kids to be kids , instead of growing up to fast. if you had a 3 yr old to 5 year old little girl and your playing a game that has some kind of sex in it would you be mad if your little princess if she came up pregant at age 6 or 7. you asked her why she did it " because i saw a game that you were playing thats why dad" i think that's the idea for the other parents but even i have ran in to a few games that don't list all the content on the back of the game.

Crybabies Suck

Seriously if a game offends someone then don't buy it or don't let your children buy it.But what gives anyone the right to tell a stranger they cannot play a game because they think its immoral. Just because "you" might not like the game because of its maturity rating or lack thereof. Doesn't mean you have the right to push your beliefs on me or anyone else. If I wanna spend my money that I earned from working on a game with gore,violence or even sex content so be it. GFY prudes of the world!


If you are butthurt about there not being sex in the games then read fanfic. There are LOTS of good stories out there and lots of them that have very in-depth sex scenes. Also, it's not that sex isn't ALLOWED in the games, (as stated quite a few times) it's that the developers are trying to target a larger audience. I'm not really for or against sex in games, I see all of your points and you have all made REALLY good points. It's also been stated that "If you don't wanna watch sex don't get it" that goes for the person saying that too. If it does not have enough sex in it for you, find something that does. I'm sure there are ways to make it to everyone's tastes, for example if they made two versions, one with the sex (AO) and one without, (PG-13) then it could solve the problem, because then you don't have to worry so much about the ****-hurt people saying there is too much sex in it. If you don't want to have the AO version an still enjoy the game, get the PG-13 version. I doubt my idea will ever happen, although I'm sure that in the next few years, sex will find it's way into video games soon. So I wouldn't really worry about it. I'm sure I'll get some flak for this comment, and I hope I don't come off as a hypocrite, (Someone will feel that I am or will be offended SOMEHOW as is with all my comments.) but I hope that you can see my point and that you can understand it. Constructive criticism is fine, but as I've been told, "If you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say nothing at all"

If it's within the age rating

If it's within the age rating and there is a warning for it, I don't see the problem in having it in games. I see worse things on regular television. If they somehow view this content while under-aged then you should ask how they acquired the content. I'm pretty sure they check I.D. if you seem to be to young to purchase these things. brb gotta yell at some kids on call of duty

If it is tagged for it of course

Our technology is advancing more and more each year. As developers gain more and more access to their game engines. I say push the envelope to make these virtual worlds more and more like real life. Why Real life? because that is what we all are familiar with. I think games should have more ***** content. But if a nice game goes down that route, obviously tag them as MA, and if a game is MA then the retail stores that sell the product, the purchaser should have some kind of ID showing they are of age to buy the product. MA games should be rated for 21 or older IMO. I wish we did have more of these type of games. The problem is developers all have a hard time to mix ***** content theme games as well as good game play. With out leaning towards the sex side, or to the game play side.

why over 21

in many countries the age at which we become adults is lower than 21 so why should we have to put up with been told what to think when our society considers us ***** imposing your will over another is bad karma children need guidance adults are able to decide for themselves i dispair for young americans you really do mistreat your young adults (englan and wales 18= ***** scotland 16= ***** other countries may vary) :)an it harm none do as thou will :) Blessed Be

Isn't gaming supposed to be

Isn't gaming supposed to be an escape from real life? Why do you want them to be more realistic? Don't you have real life for that? Actually name your top 10 favourite games of all time. 90% of my favourites have a fantasy setting. For every 1 Vice City there are 10 Mushroom Kingdoms.

Value of photographs of attractive ladies.

Doubtlessly, of what I've seen, could only, possibly be an asset.Adding much of interest, and benefit. Building character, maturity, taste. Much to be desired, and pursued. Pin-point ladies sound of limb and intellect. Evident that ladies of intellect and sound limbs and wind are the focus of our search. Pray continue our search and pursuit.

I believe theres nothing

I believe theres nothing wrong with it, you get more attached to video game characters when you see them romantically bond with each other, after i had Commander Shepard make love with Jack before we went on the suicide mission i felt obligated to keep her alive, and i would of actually been hurt if she had died, so in my mind there is nothing wrong with it.

Most completely misunderstand the issue

Most people here (and apparently the person who wrote this article) completely misunderstand the issue and are content to sensationalize the hell out of it rather than educating themselves on what this whole thing is about. Everyone seems to assume that, since sexual content is restricted to a certain age group, everyone believes its evil and wants to pretend it doesn't exist. Not the most logical conclusion to draw, but there you have it. The truth is, sexual content is age-restricted because it is (in my opinion) universally agreed upon that such content isn't appropriate for a certain age range. Yes, sex is a part of life and is not evil in any way. Does that mean people should have sex when they're twelve years old? If you say "yes" to that, see a psychologist. That's the thing: yes, sex is a part of life. That doesn't mean people under a certain age need to be exposed to it. When they reach a certain level of maturity, let them bang each other silly; but I'd say most would be uncomfortable showing their **** to someone in elementary/primary school. Now for how this relates to this debate. Since sex is age-restricted, developers are excluding a certain percentage of the population from their game's market right off the bat. That is a certain percentage less people who will buy their game. Most developers don't like this, and maintain certain bounds of reason with their games to find a balance between pushing the edge and making a profit. Because of the age restriction on sex, most avoid it because they don't want to limit their market too much; not because they believe sex is evil. It's as simple as that. Many have said that videogames are for entertainment, and I say that's completely wrong. That may be what people BUY them for, but developers MAKE them to pay the rent and buy groceries. If your game doesn't sell, it doesn't matter how entertaining it is, it's not a successful game. Since this is how people make their living and money, it's reasonable to assume they don't want to shoot themselves in the foot too much by making a game that's hard to market for content reasons. Ergo, sex and extreme violence aren't usually done because developers want to get paid and investors in the game want a return. I'll say it again, and hopefully it will take root in some minds: NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX BEING EVIL, EVERYTHING TO DO WITH DEVELOPERS WANTING TO SELL GAMES. That's at the fundamental core of this issue: marketing and sales. Instead of taking time to analyze the debate and understand it, everyone seems happy to make snap judgements and assumptions as to what the whole thing is about, and then we get a bunch of people screaming for moar ******* without having the slightest clue why developers don't do it in the first place. Until people decide it's okay for children to pork, I don't see this status quo changing, but please do keep sensationalizing the issue and screaming nonsense about conspiracies and religious beliefs and how sex is evil even though the ESRB hasn't made one single statement along those lines (nor have any decision makers on the rating system or video game development, as far as I know).


yeah i want it in games should be age restricted but i even think you missed the point there buckko i think it has something to do with people hiding away from society and getting used to the pornographic images in a game and then only looking for digital pornography and not really getting out there anymore it happening right now kids on ipads typing lol and not actually laughing out loud and thinking facebook is a realistic social life soon we will all be like in that bruce willis movie where we only send out robots and hide from the real world pork p

Anonymous, you are the one who misunderstands the issue

"That's the thing: yes, sex is a part of life. That doesn't mean people under a certain age need to be exposed to it." Um, this article (and pretty much any other that advocates sex being allowed in games) repeatedly says that the sexual content belongs in games rated MA, which should NOT be played by "people under a certain" age unless their parents are idiots. "Ergo, sex and extreme violence aren't usually done because developers want to get paid and investors in the game want a return." That is a half truth. Extreme violence is all over the place in games. What is the standard basic activity in most games? Killing people and things. Game manufacturers are perfectly happy to produce games that are rated MA for violence. And parents are idiots, because MA games rated that way for violence are purchased for kids all the time. Which serves as a fine indicator that parents are more than willing to buy a violent game for their kid, and the media really could care less. But, have the game be MA for sexual content and there is controversy. So, the issue really does come back to our culture being fine with children being exposed to violence but not to sex, and how that affects video games, and how that hurts games for those of us who are mature and want them to include things that are part of life. Like the article says. So, I think it is you who does not get the point. Now, as to my personal opinion on the matter... I think there was some validity to the Hot Coffee controversy, because in that case, the developer left content in the game that would have made it higher than an MA rating, and it was unlockable, so that someone could by the game based on the MA rating but then have content available that goes beyond MA. That is deceptive, and the developer deserved to be called out. On the other hand, there is a lovely tasteful love scene in Mass Effect that I feel does serve to underscore the attachment between Shepard and the love interest. Due to the ridiculous controversy started by Fox News out and out lying and claiming it is pornographic with full-frontal nudity (which it absolutely is not, it is absolutely PG-13), the love scenes were turned into people humping in their underwear in ME 2 and 3, and in the Dragon Age games. I feel this made them less effective from a story immersion standpoint, because the underwear never coming off made it all seem rather silly. It was actually more distracting than partial nudity would have been, since the partial nudity would have seemed more natural to what was going on.

GTA Hot Cofee

GTA's Hot Coffee mod was not unlockable, programmers made it as a joke, but then blocked it off from the game and made it impossible to get. Hackers got into it and found it. Also Fox News sucks so I think it's best to pretend they don't exist

I beg your pardon???

gamer's don't have sex???? **** me I must be imagining my four children my baby daughter (currently sleeping soundly bless her little toes :) ) must be a figment of my imagination. Also in the case of the hot coffee mod, give me mod tools with a 3d model importer that can support character rigs and animation and around two months and I could probably supply an interactive sex scene for most 3d game engines its not really that complicated in fact most dedicated teenagers could probably do the same (if they could focus long enough to learn how to use the design software and learn a little programming as well) but I digress it isn't all that difficult to get new animation sequences into a game engine then its just a case of designing an appropriate control system


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