Does sex belong in video games?

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Tits and ass are incredibly prevalent in modern society. Sex is used to sell products in advertising, actors are shamefully primped into digitally crafted sex symbols and TV shows like Toddlers in Tiaras, stretch the definition of acceptable television viewing. Sex is everywhere, but oddly, not in our games.

With the recent pulling of No Reply Games' sex focused, interactive story 'game' “Seduce Me” from Valve's Greenlight service due to breaking of the terms and conditions – for being an “offensive” title – sex is back in the headlines of gaming websites the world over, all of them asking the question, “does sex belong in video games?”

It could be argued that games purely focused around sex are pornographic in nature and therefore warrant some sort of segmentation perhaps, in the way it is with websites and traditionally with stores that cater specifically to it.

But what about games that just feature sex as a feature or component of the overall experience?

Every time a popular title attempts to put anything sex like in its games that goes beyond a fade to black and some grunts, there's a problem. Look at GTA: San Andreas' Hot Coffee mod, or the blue side boob that appeared for a brief second in Mass Effect 2. It all gets blown out of proportion, people that haven't even played the game or seen footage of the event start screaming “save the children,” and to some it seems as if the world is going to end.

Of course it never does and children are as corrupted as their parents allow them to be. These games have age ratings for a reason and if parents choose to ignore them it's their responsibility to set it right, or at least explain things to their kids so they understand and learn about the adult activity in a constructive way.

But should it be there in the first place? Well the obvious answer would be yes, for a variety of reasons.

1: Taking into consideration the age ratings I mentioned earlier, the average gamer is in their 30s at this point. Not only have they had sex, they've been living with internet pornography for over 15 years. Believe me, unless you're doing a game adaptation of The Serbian Film, this is nothing we haven't seen before.

2: Unless it's Manhunt, where ritualistic killing was censored because... it's the game the lobby groups decided to go after, murder barely raises an eyebrow from anyone. Killing is rampant in games. Just look at the fast Paragon leveller in Diablo III. He's killed almost two million monsters alone. If he can commit mass murder, why can't a game have a sex scene in it?

3: Sex is a part of life. For anyone that doesn't know, it's how babies are made. Shocking I know, but we all began our life at a moment of parental coitus and society is slowly beginning to lose the taboo. It's still there – and enjoyed by many – but the simple fact is that sex shouldn't be considered a naughty thing any more. It's in films, in advertising, television and there is absolutely no reason it shouldn't be in our games.

However, despite these very obvious reasons that sex should be included in games and accepted by the public as a simple part of the artistic medium, the blame isn't entirely on the shoulders of complainers. Game developers could also help the cause out.

Despite the criticism for its leud content, Mass Effect actually has an incredibly impressive and deeply emotional erotic part to it but it is a rarity. More often than not, we get adventurers fucking hookers, or silly quick time sex games or button mashing to fuck harder. This isn't the type of thing that detractors of sexual content in gaming are going to agree with, probably ever.

No I'm not saying that because lobbyists and complainers have stale sex lives that games should be the same, but there isn't a reason that sex can't be used as an emotional connector between characters either.

Games focused around getting the clothes off of a digital woman should be just as allowed to exist in our gaming spheres as the latest AAA blockbuster, but they don't further the cause of sex in video games as much as they could.

Not only do I believe that sex deserves to be a part of gaming, I think it deserves to have more credit as a part of the emotional story within a game. It doesn't need to be your character just getting his rocks off, or a nudge-nudge-wink-wink from the developers saying “we know what you gamers want, digital titties,” but a real way for players to connect with a character.

We talked a few weeks about about how Lara Croft's surviving of an attempted rape could be used to delve into all sorts of new character emotions within a game. How about include a sex scene in that game not long after the rape and make it optional. Have it so that players can decide. If she goes along with it, perhaps Lara is emotionally distracted and merely trying to forget a horrific experience, thereby not building a relationship with the male counterpart. Perhaps if she says no, players can learn something about his character.

Sex is a massive motivator in human life and it should be used in games as well, not just as a treat or a laughable aside, but a real part of the gameplay. It can be part of the story and part of the world the developers create.

It doesn't always have to be, just as not every single racing game has to be a sim like experience, but just now and again I'd like to see some real effort put into sex.

That last line could have been phrased better.

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All of You Whiny Bitches

Shut the fuck up. Just like ALL other forms of entertainment, games should be allowed to have as much sex and nudity as anything else. Just because you were raped, or think you were, or have a shitty sex life and feel like ruining everyone else's fun. That just shows me how childish you really are. I put nude mods on my games to make them feel more realistic. I take of a chicks clothes and she's naked, more realistic than her still having something on. I also don't have any moral standards, I do what I feel is right because that's what I want to do. I don't believe in any god and I still have an awesome life.

Should be acceptable

I have no problem with sex in games, as long as the game is rated AO. Adults should be able to purchase any type of game/entertainment they desire (that is legal), and a game with sexual situations is no different than a movie with a sex scene. Even a sex simulator is acceptable, provided adults over 18 are the only ones able to play it. These games should not be marketed to children either.

The problem here is that

The problem here is that having an AO rating for your game is a death sentence. Most sites won't cover or advertise AO games. Most stores won't even acknowledge that they exist. GL finding a single one on Steam. Until games with this rating aren't deliberately buried; you can't use it for games. They have to go for Mature, sorry but 17+ is old enough to see sex. Maybe you didn't lose your virginity until 25 or grew up in some stupid purity church, but for the rest of us, 17+ or 18+ is sufficient for all adult content.

Makes sense

Ive had the same idea in mind for awhile, u see it everywhere else so why is it such a big deal in games? I think the majority of ppl in the real world engage in sex far more often then a shootout. And ur point about being emotional, makes so much sense. Besides u shouldnt choose to buy a game just on whether it has sex in it or not. U make many good points, its too bad so many others arent taking this seriously. But u make many good points, and i hope that the feeling of taboo about sex in games will be gone rather soon, and ppl would stop making such a fuss about it. Personally, i also think that it is lifting, and that maybe within the next decade even, although that might be a little too hopeful, that it will be just like killing is today. If u think about it, some of the earliest games created for consoles were centered around killing. It might just be because, unlike violence and killing, sex hasnt been present throughout the life of video games in general.

Really, you want sex in your games? All else ain't good enough?

First of all nobody's stopping game-makers from putting such things. They simply don't like too because it's bad for business for parents cutting a huge chunk of their sales. Also, sex and nudity are rarely part of the art. They're cheap attention grabbers meant to increase sales. Games are typically enjoyable enough without such things. Also, big businesses are simply not the heartless greedy butt-holes the left makes them out to be. Unlike you apparently, they do have some level of conscience regarding what children will be exposed too due to their own decisions. Their primary fan-base are kids. To say that a considerable number of children won't be exposed to everything they put into their games is just stupid, no matter how much they put warning labels. If you really honestly need sexually explicit material that bad, then there are ways of taking care of that which don't expose a bunch of kids to inappropriate material all because you don't appreciate not having sexual things in your computer games. I rather appreciate the lack of sexual immorality in most games. If I need sexually explicit material, I certainly find real videos and pictures far more gratifying than drawn cartoon and avatar figures. Oh and if you're into that, there's plenty of it online too. As for violence, yes it's far less detrimental because everyone knows that you can get hurt as much as you dole it out. Certainly, violence has it's undesired influence, but sexual immorality creates broken homes, and is very deceptive as to the reality of the consequences that not only effect the perpetrators,but also everyone around them, and has the worst effect on the most vulnerable, innocent, and impressionable people. Also,sexual immorality tends to breed a violence into people due to it's direct effect on one's home-life and those vitally important years of childhood.

And you really believe that

And you really believe that showing sex is so much worse than depicting violence? What a messed up believe. Sex and eroticism is natural. It's how we reproduce and keep our species alive. But you would rather show a kid how to kill it's own species? Cause the main enemy in games, movies and shows are humans. True there is alsosome aliens, zombies, ghosts and a fractual amount of animals in games, but lets be real, how many aliens, zombies, ghosts or aggresive bunny rabbits, deers and wolves have you seen. The first three don't exist or are any part of our life as far we know. At least not scientifical. With aliens I am open for discussion cause I can not believe that earth is supposed to be the only hospitable planet, and that in this vast a universe (and there is probably more than one, I'm not completely up to date on that) there is not supposed to be another or more "intelligent" and probably also far superior species than us. But back to my point. For the most part killing depicts genocide and or homocide. Meaning killing within the own race, and race as in homo sapiens, the current evolutionary state of our species. So you want to tell me that showing and encouraging kids and for that matter anyone to kill fellow humans is better than showing sexual content which just shows a natural part of us and every other species alive, cause we all need to reproduce. Than I believe that you have a very messed up sense of right and wrong. I am pretty sure that noone so far was really talking about sexual harassment, exploit, rape and molesting, but more about sex in general. And I'm also pretty sure that the main focus was not on pornographic hard core fetish sex but first of all the sensual and romantical part of it. And if you want to start on that kids will be able to have access to no matter what kind of labelling and safeguard there is, well than you should still check in with there parents and see what they did wrong, as you put it. Cause kids will always have access to whatever adult life features just because no one is 100% true, honest, law abiding and free of sin. And if you are a religious person for Christianity and you want a biblical reference than what about "they who are free of sin, shall throw the first stone". Sorry only have that reference cause ot was the only religion I was ever taught. But than again almost all of the present religions velieve in the same god and system. It's just the way that this god communicates with us is one of main spots for discussion and that some get too hyped about. Since I'm typing all of this on a phone, I can't see the beginning anymore and don't know whether I made a valid point or not. But at least I gave my two cents and want to conclude this statement by my goal for the future FREE ICECREAM FOR EVERYONE. Thank you

Dude I'm sorry about this but

Dude I'm sorry about this but I can't help it. To quote PMRants, a well known Youtuber if you didn't already know, "Your english teacher must be very proud of you. I bet she gave you the nickname Zero, not because of the badass reploid from the Megaman X series but because it represents your grade point average." Seriously dude, read what you write before you post it.

you are wrong

First these companies are not doing this for the kids or because they think its morally wrong or right , they do it for money, period. They don't care morally about what they do and they especially don't if your kids sees it or not. The main reason is MONEY, Second, you dont think if a porn game actually would sell in America they wouldnt do one in a second? The dating/sex sims are big in Japan and those seem like they would be cheap to make. Hell you wouldnt even have to have them in brick and mortar stores. You could just sell them on one of the stores and then it would be 100% on the parents. Im more pissed with this convo because people are actually saying boo sex, yet giving the ultra violence in games a pass. Im cool with violence to the point Im actually a fan and horror is my go to genre. Still the problem with America is the lose their head at the sight of a nipple but when they see someones actual head gone from a gunshot they are only outraged as long as its trendy, a week later and were over it. Im not saying violence needs to be toned down, Im saying is stupid to put something beautiful and natural like sex in the same league as violence. I blamed this 100% on Christianity and conservatives

why.

My opinion is: Parents seem to be ok with death/killing/mutilating/drugs/guns/ect on tv/movies/games but for god sakes dont show nudity or sex. why do they think like this. i have no bloody idea. i rather have a sex addict child then a sociopath who likes killing.

yes

About a year ago i was shopping for a new game. Next to me was a 10 year old and his mother that agreed to purchase a game for him that was rated M. In the last ten to 15 years i have seen more and more games get blocked due to nudity or graphic violence. Its all because of bad parents buying games for their children that should not have them. Its not right that there is a group that can tell a game company that they have to make games less violent or remove sexual content from them. I'm an adult and i don't like having my things censored as I don' t live in a dictatorship.

Yes a Rated-M game can

The reason why there isn't sex in video games (in my opinion, I may be wrong, but this my observations). The only rating that can have sex is Rated-M games. Because Rated-M games are, Mature (17+), and Rated-M games are for age 17 and up. But in today's society or generation, kids (11-16) are playing these games and have parents that don't care too. So that's why gaming companies know (or just have an idea, like I said just from observation) that kids under that age are playing these Rated-M games. So thats why gaming companies are staying away from sex in games and keep it in Rated-A games (which you don't find today or rarely). So what sucks is that, a lot of parents don't care what their kids play which is sad. But I must say, when I was 13 years old I played my first Rated-M game which was "Halo: Combat Evolved" (2005, yes I was behind). But when ever I went to a Blockbuster and wanted to rent a game, if I wanted to try a Rated-M game, my mom always checked it. So I think we should bring it back. If kids are playing without their parents checking, and then those parents complain about it. Then gaming companies can say "Its your fault for letting your kids playing these games." And thats what I think.

The word is spelled "lewd,"

The word is spelled "lewd," not "leud." I play video games for the strategy and tactics. I am more interested in defeating enemies, developing efficient systems, and beating timers than fake video romance with women who don't really exist. If I knew a game had a lot of sex in it, I would not buy it because it would not be fun for me to play.

Games like Mass Effect are

Games like Mass Effect are not about beating timers or grinding for loot. Its about a dramatic interactive story where the player controls decisions that effect characters in the game. Thats why sex in that game is appropriate, because its a derivative of an emotional payoff resulting in their choices. No one is saying that sex should be put into every game, just that its relevant and appropriate for certain ones. Parents need more involvement in the media their children consume, then they can stop trying to blacklist game's and developers for their creative decisions.

hmmm...

It's quite hard to take a comment seriously when you don't know proper spelling, it would go that's why YOU'RE single, as in you are, idiot If you disagree with sex and nudity, don't buy the games, simple enough. Me, I'm a married man who has been gaming since pong, and the advancement of gaming over the course of these years makes you understand what the developer is actually trying to convey. Take The Witcher 2 for example, easy enough to fuck hookers and get your jollies, but Mass Effect, completely different, you build relationships with the characters that you happen to be stuck in the middle of space with, and unless you want bald Jack, it teaches a lesson in real life, sure you can take the easy chicks, but wooing a female is so much better....understanding these nuances make the difference between tasteful and smut...gaming is going to a new market these days, one that focuses more on what the system can do outside of gaming rather than the actual gaming experience, how can we make this MORE family friendly? How can we get children to make their parents drop 500 bucks on a new system? Gamers used to be broke gents playing goldeneye, what happened?

I've always had an opinion

I've always had an opinion for people who look at digital characters, or crappy jagged shapes on a screen (aka a video game character) and said "wow they're hot". That opinion is usually met with a wtf look and a punch to their face. It's just so sad the state of people these days. Most of the people we're talking about here haven't and won't ever touch a boob because well they play video games. The other select few nerds that actually have women are the ones that don't care about this stuff in video games because they have the real thing. Bottom line is, if you think we need sex in video games...if you think we need 2 solid objects bumping into each other with limited robotic movements, no interaction just like I said 2 solid objects banging into each other...then you are a sad sad object yourself. That opinion won't change and I won't look at anyone in a positive light that applies. It's possible that in maybe 30 or 40 years when "game graphics" are believable or at least don't look so awful and garbage like they do now that I might be a bit more lenient...but until we have Avatar level mo-cap and emotional movement in video games....nope.

are you serious...

First I will start with this lol worthy quote... "I've always had an opinion for people who look at digital characters, or crappy jagged shapes on a screen (aka a video game character) and said "wow they're hot". That opinion is usually met with a wtf look and a punch to their face." STFU! I can guarantee that other than maybe the WTF look, that literally has never happened. Do you want a Tapout shirt to go along with that e-thuggidness? Are you actually that hypocritical? You pretty much call them sad and pathetic, then go onto to tell a obviously fake tale about you punching people in the face to seem like a badass. Another thing, games are at the level that you can realistically pull off a sex scene. Add in how you decribe character models and you either haven't played a game in years. Also claiming that only a handful of "nerds" (the fact that you use that term as a insult makes your whole fake tough guy douche act even more hilarious) will ever touch a boob because they some how found out how to get a girl is humorous.The Mass Effect series has sold millions of copies so even a small percentage of that is still a lot of nerds getting laid. You just come off as clown shoes with this post man,F'n ridiculous. Another thing, what is the difference between thinking a video game character, comic book character, or a cartoon character and thinking a pornstar or celebrity is hot? What the difference between to getting aroused or jerking it to the any of them? Is it because they are flesh and blood? Reality is a subjective thing considering none of us have the same experiences, its made up of what we see, hear, feel,and taste. Jennifer Lawrence and Sasha Grey are as real to you and 99%+ of the population as Chun-li or Jessica Rabbit are. You say people that think drawn or 3D characters are hot, are sad, yet they have just as much of a chance with any of them as you and the vast super majority of the population has with a pornstar or a celebrity because. It all comes down to how subjective reality is to the individual.

Pathetic

Are you seriously that close minded? We have come along way in gaming and interaction not to mention human interaction, but to call someone stupid or pathetic just because on something that is against your belief is pathetic in itself. But hey if you wish to go that route... what do you like? I bet the things you like are pathetic and stupid to some. Like hip hop music? I don't. Would you like me to call you stupid and pathetic because in my views I see that music as for losers. Why is it that it's taboo to put romance in games but ok for film, television, books, novels and other ideas? If you don't like it, fine. Don't buy it and keep your insults to yourself. I don't go around blabbering how much hip hop sucks. It's there choose. As long as it harms no one and keeps everything civil, then I don't care if someone listens to nails on a chalkboard. Just don't call someone a loser just because someone likes something that you don't. Use your brain man. It's there to think and conjure up ideas. You'll be surprised the outcome.

lolwat

You are the sad fuck for even thinking that sex should be in video games for the reasons that you said. This article says nothing about trying to do you fan service. But we can see it is obviously what's on your mind even though you deny it. As for saying video game characters are hot... well you know they are based on real people nowadays so it's perfectly fine. You know when you watch a movie you are watching a 2D image but I bet you find 2D actors hot right? Because they resemble a real person, your mind does the rest. Not that this is at all relevant to the point the writer is trying to make, but I feel like your shitty opinion needed to be addressed.

on or off

look. I can understand the desire to put sex in games. there's nothing wrong with wanting the option to see a little action. Yet I believe there are ways it can be done as to not hard wire it into games themselves. there is a few problems with allowing sex in a game. the major problem is this. most game companies might want to add sex into their game, but not all people want to have sex in the game, and some would prefer it not to be in the game to begin with. this leads to the issue of the game company trying to decide if they should or should not include sexual content. if they choose to put sex in the game it will most likely lower sales. the reason is this. As I said before not all people want the option of having sex hard wired into the game. so this leaves the game companies with only a few options. first, they could allow people to mod the game, yet if they give people the ability to mod it opens the game up to viruses, hacks, and takes some of the control of the game out of the hands of the game company. next, they could put the content into the game, and put some sort of block on it so that only people that access the content will see it. but as we've seen before with other games that have done similar things. this often times leads to the block being compromised, kids see the content, it gets blown out of proportion on TV and media that the game has sexual content embedded into it, and in the end the game company has to pay large fines. now the final option (and most likely the most logical) is to make the game standard without the sexual content, and allow people the option to download the sexual content like an expansion, or patch to the game. the content would require age verification, and a form of credit card payment. this would in essence free up the game company from having to pay fines for kids getting the content unless the kid is acting dishonestly. at that point the parents would be held responsible for the kids actions (which they are already, but fail to care about, or seek only to blame others for), the game company would then be giving people that want the sexual content what they want, and adults that don't really care to have sex in their game could still play the game without having to hassle with it. now if the kid gets hold of the sexual content and installs it illegally (weather it is from stealing adult information to fabricate a site download, or getting the installation files from a pirated site or source) they will still be acting outside of the companies set restrictions of the content, thereby freeing the company from the ramifications of kids doing things outside of a companies EULA (you know. that large amount of text after installation that about 90% or more of the gaming community doesn't read, and most likely just clicks the check box and the "Next" button on). as I said, there shouldn't be a problem adding sex into games if people REALLY want it in them, but game companies need to consider better options of allowing people the ability to include the content, and many opt to not put the content into the games to begin with solely because of the money required to allow the option, and the man power required to create the content to begin with.

agreed!!!

I agree fully with this guy here. Good article man!! Sex should be included, I mean look at how popular Hot Coffee was for GTA:SA!! And taking away from all the hookers and taking a different approach, what about Assassin's Creed II? No-one complained about its sex scene (admittedly yes all you see and do is strip her down, look at her bare back and shoulders and see some sideboob) or Assassin's Creed Brotherhood's (same sort of thing, but in a bath) once they found out it was to flesh out the character relationships a bit more. Then we have middle spectrum with The Witcher and The Witcher 2: Assassins Of Kings, where there's nudity and/or sex, but they are skippable scenes if that's not for you, and the only necessary ones are romantic scenes, once again to show character relationship or just to add to the story and experience, although with actual tits showing unlike AC. Yeah you have the option to bang a whore, but its an OPTION, and even then its still shown somewhat romanticized. Bottom line is, with video games heading in the direction of movies and tv shows, with its audience, violent or dark themes, deep involving storylines, and pretty much everything else in a modern game, depending on genre, why can't we for example be playing a horror game, and have a sex scene moments before a gory death, like pretty much every horror movie franchise, or play a game like Witcher or AC where its for character and story without getting criticised as a porn and gore simulator, or even just bang away at hookers? It's in our society everywhere else, might as well be in our games

Though I agree that there is

Though I agree that there is no real good reason why there shouldn't be sex in video games, I just am unsure how it could be worked into a game effectively. The sex parts of GTA 4 were amusing but didn't really do anything for the game. I would find a game where you press button x to thrust to be rather dull. I don't think it is so much they don't have a place, but finding where that place is. Though this line "How about include a sex scene in that game not long after the rape and make it optional.", I can't quite begin to state what is wrong with this idea. Someone almost getting raped followed by a sex scene would be incredibly creepy and remove the very real damage that rape can cause.

Mass Effect

Mass Effect is the only game series out their that used sex effectively and largely 'cleanly'. It just made it emotional, so your not thinking about blue tits, your thinking about the characters.

this site

I think sex in video games should be not because of dirty lust and should have been because of love because sex because of love is more pure Sex video game fills with blood and gore,sex actuallu more likeable then the safe video games like Kingdom Hearts and Final Fantasy Tifa Lockheart has large breast but she didn't use it to seduce Cloud she didn't use her sex appeal very well

I completely agree with all

I completely agree with all this and if they really needed they could just raise the game rating from mature being 17+ and just make it 18+ that way no one would have a reason to complain as long as ppl paid attention to the ratings and didn't let a 12 yr old kid play it then complain about its content. Personally I think that it's the parents who are at fault for letting there kids play a game without having any idea what it was, when I was a teenager my dad wouldn't let me play a game rated M unless he had either played it himself or looked it up to see exactly why it was rate that way.

Sex From a 26yo's Perspective

First. i love sex! One of my top 5 Hobbies. But Have People not seen Morbid the world has become? i remember i had a blast 20 years ago, playing Mario--No Sex, Sonic--No Sex, That WormHeaded guy--No Sex, Contra, Metal Slug-- Though i do remember that one girl had huge jugs! But thats how gaming should be. I do agree with having the parents note the game ratings before purchasing, but there is gonna be some kind of sexual content regardless of the game. there is always gonna be a girl with big Tits, a girl with tight pants.. the World is just corrupt. Sex is Everywhere, Drugs on cable T.v, Killings are ridiculous. The Children, young or older teens have seen it all. and thats sad! Imagine how the next generation of children are gonna be? These are the children that will run the world. Its Sad What people will do to get dollars in their bank accounts. The Contents they will sell. Yeah, sure dad is gonna buy some Smut, but eventually the Son will get ahold of it. Let it be a Video Game or a magazine. Isnt there enough "Mediums" in the world that they have to be put in video games? But until then i'll Play GTA and Pick up Prostitutes-- Cuz its Fun, and im not allowed to do it in the real Life- i mean, it is fictional, so it makes it okay-- No?

Ha

The children of the new age will be glorious. We have seen it all and know adult's mistakes. All of u act as if we know nothing and see nothing. We see everything and video games help wake us up from the dream that you want to encase us in. Soon we will all escape and see almost every adult as the villains they are. All adults do are create wars over ridiculous feuds and dont realize the full problem. We see the problem and eventually we will take action. Though, we will make the same mistakes as we are humans, imperfect beings who seem to know what is right and wrong, but at least we would have made several steps in a generally "right" direction instead of our predecessors who were liars and thieves Adults make the tragic mistake that all children are what they seem. If only they knew our minds and wit far surpass theirs on levels far beyond their comprehension..

Sexity sex sex should be in the games

First off, I'm going to say this: I'm going to develop a first-person, life like simulation, and sex is going to be one of the most sought out features in it (with the button control and all.) So nothing will stop me from censoring, though it's not the main point to the game's idea. Anyhow, I have thought of this ever since I saw the ending of FarCry 3, when you chose to kill your friends and be with the crazy temple girl. I was shocked to see the first-person sex happening, and her ta-tas being displayed and all. For a moment I thought "they're not allowed to do that, right?" Then I began thinking - the rating is M for Mature. Sex is considered a thing done by the mature group of people right? So why would this be such a controversial thing? I mean, it is pushing the limit by doing things like rape, or forced sex, but regular sex between two of the game's characters (or more haha!) should be allowed. I mean, we already have 12 year-old's watching head's being torn off 3D bodies and bloodshed going everywhere, so why can't they see sex? I know if I was a parent, I'd rather have my son find out what sex is through a video game instead of murder. Because then he would grow up to be a pimp, not a murderer. Another thing is, I kinda get mad when in these war games, racing games, etc., there is so much seductive activity portrayed, then nothing else happens. These are suppose to be manly games, where's the manliness in just giving the girl a kiss on one cheek after saving her, when we'd prefer having a kiss be giving on all her cheeks. And plus, it's not like some are really going to constantly restart their game just to fap it to the only sex scene. This also made me think back to one of the first Grand theft autos, where you had sex with a prostitute in a hotel, and controlled what they did, and the media went crazy about it, even though through that entire minigame, you had your clothes on.

just to add

& I stretch this thought with films, porn & that filth that gets into "songs" of course. I like A Game of Thrones series but please, less of the nudity or not at all, they actually serve no purpose more so the sex scenes. These things do not serve any purpose or add anything to make it a great film or game etc. Look, as an example, The Lord of the Rings trilogy is a great film, no sex needed. I cannot help but feel that adding sex scenes is perversive & just feeding into the desires of, mostly men. If fathers do not wish for their daughters to ever be a porn star or stripper or a hooker. Anybody that says along the lines of "but it's not your daughter or my daughter so it doesn't matter" is seriously in denial & lacks respect for their fellow human-beings. Worse if it's a woman who agrees with it I think. Sure, "it's not my body", but then you want what's best for your daughter & that's education, not being a porn star or reduced to flaunting her body like sheep to a pack of wolves!

Sex should not be in games (at least not, explicit)

Have a daughter(s) and then rethink about wanting your son to be like a "pimp". If everyone else thought like you, I would imagine a very protective father will develop in your case if it isn't already for a lot of people. In my honest opinion, the sex in games is not necessary, I completely disagree with it. However, story driven that may have a sex scene (like in Mass Effect) or suggestive one is enough to tell the mature audience what was going on. I cannot fathom the idea of playing a game with all its great mechanics, shooter, RPG, driving whatever, to then have an interactive sex (game) in it with quick time event, moving the stick up & down etc. It is ridiculous & mostly it is catered to the male audience. So society want's to promote hookers or porn. Yeah, we have it in the real world & very sadly so & did you know a lot of them are by coercion, not by choice? So what is that really promoting? It is very sad that a lot of "men" want hookers or a sex scene in their games but when it comes to real life & have daughters of their own, it's a different story. If none of you would ever think that you would NOT like your mother, daughter, aunty or even friend, any women who is related to you to ever be a hooker or a stripper or a porn star. Then in my opinion, you are just one hypocrite & really need to rethink about your desires in comparison to compassion for your fellow sisters & brothers in humanity.

Sex in Video games

This is the way I see it. Video games have hacked, garrotted, shot, crushed, murdered, horrified, sliced, mauled, terrified, killed and murdered in every conceivable manner imaginable. Yet most have squeaked by the censors and found their way onto our gaming consoles and computers. But show a little boob, or worse, a couple actually making love, and the censors, and certain public officials, go wild with outrage. Given that sex is natural and killing is not, it shows a lot about our values as a society. I honestly believe if society was less sexually suppressed, you'd see a lot less violence in video games.

First-hand experience from multiple fields

I work in the industry selling the games, have played them far too often for the last 25 years, and occassionally review them on the side. This is one of my biggest "what the hell is wrong with the world soap box rants" I feel so strongly about it that if I ever get around to it I will start a group to lobby all this nonsense. I have given speeches and written papers on these very types of speeches in every instance whether the teacher agreed or disagreed with me beforehand they agreed after hearing what I had to say. This is ridiculous. I am far less concerned with sex being or not being in videogames then I am with the "violent videogames makes people violent nonsense" This is a comment so I am not about to type my 10 page soap box rant here. What I will say is this. Parental controls have been on every electronic device known to man since the late 90's there is no option in it. Some of these games allow you to turn all the "naughty or violent bits" down. This is very poorly advertised as an actual option. Every time a newspaper or broadcaster talks about sex or violence in videogames it is always biased and poorly researched. From the "Mass Effect is selling Pornography to children" claims and the "Bully is a Columbine Simulator" these are two of many many instances in which a "hot button issue" is poorly researched and condemned. They will have stories that tell "both sides fairly" and any time it is some form of videogame professional reviewer developer what have you. They are always cut off in mid sentence. When regulations are made for the MPAA or the RIAA they are invited to the talks. When the ESRB regulations are changed or modified in some way they are simply "TOLD HOW IT IS GOING TO BE" I don't like or dislike sex in videogames. I have absolutely no problem with it IF IT IS DONE RIGHT. I see no reason to censor it. In the United States we live in an extremely over-sexualized state of mind. if a guy kisses another guy on the cheek he must be gay even though this is perfectly common in many countries. If a girl wants to be topless she must be a horny ho fo sho. There will always be something parents and society blame abnormal behavior on. If someone cannot understand something and they are close-minded they have to find a "reason" or explanation" for it. I say again if I ever get around to getting off my butt I will actually organize a group to protest the idiotic way in which violence and sex in videogames are covered in the media. Now addiction to videogames? THAT is a real problem. I may as well be plugged into my damn PS3 and PC. That is why I haven't organized some huge politcal revolt. Too lazy too much effort.

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