Does sex belong in video games?

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Tits and ass are incredibly prevalent in modern society. Sex is used to sell products in advertising, actors are shamefully primped into digitally crafted sex symbols and TV shows like Toddlers in Tiaras, stretch the definition of acceptable television viewing. Sex is everywhere, but oddly, not in our games.

With the recent pulling of No Reply Games' sex focused, interactive story 'game' “Seduce Me” from Valve's Greenlight service due to breaking of the terms and conditions – for being an “offensive” title – sex is back in the headlines of gaming websites the world over, all of them asking the question, “does sex belong in video games?”

It could be argued that games purely focused around sex are pornographic in nature and therefore warrant some sort of segmentation perhaps, in the way it is with websites and traditionally with stores that cater specifically to it.

But what about games that just feature sex as a feature or component of the overall experience?

Every time a popular title attempts to put anything sex like in its games that goes beyond a fade to black and some grunts, there's a problem. Look at GTA: San Andreas' Hot Coffee mod, or the blue side boob that appeared for a brief second in Mass Effect 2. It all gets blown out of proportion, people that haven't even played the game or seen footage of the event start screaming “save the children,” and to some it seems as if the world is going to end.

Of course it never does and children are as corrupted as their parents allow them to be. These games have age ratings for a reason and if parents choose to ignore them it's their responsibility to set it right, or at least explain things to their kids so they understand and learn about the adult activity in a constructive way.

But should it be there in the first place? Well the obvious answer would be yes, for a variety of reasons.

1: Taking into consideration the age ratings I mentioned earlier, the average gamer is in their 30s at this point. Not only have they had sex, they've been living with internet pornography for over 15 years. Believe me, unless you're doing a game adaptation of The Serbian Film, this is nothing we haven't seen before.

2: Unless it's Manhunt, where ritualistic killing was censored because... it's the game the lobby groups decided to go after, murder barely raises an eyebrow from anyone. Killing is rampant in games. Just look at the fast Paragon leveller in Diablo III. He's killed almost two million monsters alone. If he can commit mass murder, why can't a game have a sex scene in it?

3: Sex is a part of life. For anyone that doesn't know, it's how babies are made. Shocking I know, but we all began our life at a moment of parental coitus and society is slowly beginning to lose the taboo. It's still there – and enjoyed by many – but the simple fact is that sex shouldn't be considered a naughty thing any more. It's in films, in advertising, television and there is absolutely no reason it shouldn't be in our games.

However, despite these very obvious reasons that sex should be included in games and accepted by the public as a simple part of the artistic medium, the blame isn't entirely on the shoulders of complainers. Game developers could also help the cause out.

Despite the criticism for its leud content, Mass Effect actually has an incredibly impressive and deeply emotional erotic part to it but it is a rarity. More often than not, we get adventurers fucking hookers, or silly quick time sex games or button mashing to fuck harder. This isn't the type of thing that detractors of sexual content in gaming are going to agree with, probably ever.

No I'm not saying that because lobbyists and complainers have stale sex lives that games should be the same, but there isn't a reason that sex can't be used as an emotional connector between characters either.

Games focused around getting the clothes off of a digital woman should be just as allowed to exist in our gaming spheres as the latest AAA blockbuster, but they don't further the cause of sex in video games as much as they could.

Not only do I believe that sex deserves to be a part of gaming, I think it deserves to have more credit as a part of the emotional story within a game. It doesn't need to be your character just getting his rocks off, or a nudge-nudge-wink-wink from the developers saying “we know what you gamers want, digital titties,” but a real way for players to connect with a character.

We talked a few weeks about about how Lara Croft's surviving of an attempted rape could be used to delve into all sorts of new character emotions within a game. How about include a sex scene in that game not long after the rape and make it optional. Have it so that players can decide. If she goes along with it, perhaps Lara is emotionally distracted and merely trying to forget a horrific experience, thereby not building a relationship with the male counterpart. Perhaps if she says no, players can learn something about his character.

Sex is a massive motivator in human life and it should be used in games as well, not just as a treat or a laughable aside, but a real part of the gameplay. It can be part of the story and part of the world the developers create.

It doesn't always have to be, just as not every single racing game has to be a sim like experience, but just now and again I'd like to see some real effort put into sex.

That last line could have been phrased better.

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why not have the console

why not have the console itself edit content? make a rating adult - non adult for gamer tags or or accounts can be set Adult / Child then the console or game dosn't allow that content? this could keep children "safe" and adults can enjoy games the way they were intended.

what's the big deal?

I'm with the author in saying that sex is a natural part of life and that it's absence from mature titles is somewhat odd. It seems strange to me that ultra violence is seen as less adult than sex. I don't have a problem with either, because a game is fantasy, and art should be free of censorship. It's odd as a society we see sex as more evil than murder, but we probably have the bible to thank for that. I would personally like to see more sex in games as a way to add emotional depth to story and character relationships and to give the game a more real feel. The absence of sex in a story about adults to me is something that takes away from realism because it is such a large and natural part of human life. I do hope such scenes are done with class instead of some kind of cheap objectification though because god knows we have enough of that already.

Get over it

This article is one person's view, and all these butthurt comments from whiny 'anti-sex' gamers is sad. Why? Sex is a normal component of life no matter who you are. If you see a side boob or cleavage IRL, do you go 'eww' and run away screaming? No, you look, it's human nature. Enforce the game ratings more, to make it harder for young people under 13 to purchase it, or have parents do their damn job and be involved with their kids' hobbies to try and know what they play and why. Above 18 players, make it optional..one could play a more 'adult' version, or the tone downed where people can kill, steal, etc. without the T & A component. (I'm NOT saying make a porn version of a game w/the RPG pieces either.) Or maybe, if you could NOT BUY the frackin' game if digital/virual nudity and/or sex freaks you out. All this whiny preachy crap doesn't change anything, your wallets do. If game co. A sees they're losing $ over a 'sexy' game, they won't make another. Grow up and get a pair, or take 'em out of your mom's/GF/wives' purse and use 'em.

I'm all for using games to

I'm all for using games to raise awareness of certain issues. But some themes don't belong together. For example, if you bought a video game predicated on the idea of mass slaughter of aliens or zombies, then is was probably not your intention to engage in a raging hot sex scene. More over it raises the question of sensitivity. What if the person in question is Homosexual? What if they are Asexual? If you want to make it an option that's fine. But it shouldn't bar you from advancing your relations with that character. S3x should be supplemental, not instrumental.

That doesn't make any sense.

That doesn't make any sense. Nothing in that sentence has anything to do with having actually had sex (or not had sex, as the case may be.) There is no logical reason for that sentence to "discredit" the validity of this statement. The statement is true, as by using "today's society" as the operative phrase, the OP has already set the comparison to history, wherein sex was a private thing and was to be kept locked away from impressionable minds. In modern society, (i.e. today) sex is an open topic explored on nearly every channel on television, every blog on the web, and just about every company uses sex-based ads to sell their product. That's a valid and proven point. At this point, you just sound like an idiot, who has no capacity for rational thought.

Adults Continuing Education

God of War's sex scene was kind of atrocious. It didn't accomplish much story telling. Mass Effect's approach was much better. Allowing sex to be in some games does not mean forcing sex to be in all games. No one is sexualizing lumines. Catherine was also awesome for all of it's adult themes. Women do get oversexualized in videogames, and there should be more games that don't do that. Men get oversexualized with their clothes on in video games, and there should be more games that don't do that. I propose a game where the player jumps into video games and fixes the outfits on the characters and is encouraged to make them look as professional as possible. The beautiful thing about video games is that with a virtual representation we can represent an infinite number of parallel realities, and we can also represent nearly every concept within our own reality. We should in every case be using this to expose to and educate ourselves in every way it is possible to do so, for every group of people that can possibly use it to further our development as humans. Video games should be neutral in the way that doctors should be neutral. Doctors are meant to heal people regardless of affiliations in any sense and much like that video games should be allowed to expose us to any concept or situation that we would be exposed to, so as to better educate ourselves in what would be protocal for those situations. The idea of portraying a rape is very triggering. It is also a very powerful tool. No we do not want to force anyone who has been victimized to relive anything. However, thinking about movies with messages that have had a powerful effect on me, I can turn to A Clockwork Orange, Braveheart, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo as a few examples of where rape was portrayed as a negative thing and had a very powerful effect on me emotionally. This is a tool to discourage the act from happening. Consider a game where a male main character is raped maybe if you are afraid of the portraying of a woman. Have the story dive into the psychological effects of that event on that character. This would be profound. Focus on the event being a negative thing for everyone rather than focusing on exactly who it was happening to and it would have a positive effect. Create a game where the player is a bystander and the main goal of the game is preventing rapes. This would be positive. It is not something that should be done lightly, or even often, but it is something that could have a real effect. On sex, including consensual sex where both parties use protection would be fantastic. Including consensual sex where parties don't use protection and then a child is born and the player has to deal with the repercussions is also great. Video games can be used as a learning tool. Everyone wants to promote this ideal or that one. Use video games. Doesn't anyone remember the outrage about censoring books? We need fictitious space to explore what we otherwise wouldn't. Don't burn books people.

you dumb crackers

why is it always brought up that lara croft survived attempted rape? that's not fucking impressive considering for the rest of the goddamn game she's surviving attempted murder on a huge fucking scale. i'd way rather have some dude try to rape me than fucking get shot at. fucking priorities, people.

Peeps below me

I'd just like to point out that what this man/woman making this article meant wasn't just itemized females, or males. This is just the kind of sex that feel like love, not just a large porno of none intimate garbage. Something that even the girl gamers would enjoy, and be able to say "Aww" To. Something to touch your heart, not to stimulate you genitalia. I've played many games, mass effect being one of them. I enjoyed the love portions in the game, I felt a real attachment to the the characters. I loved the story, and when they had sex I didn't mind the fade to black. I know what they are doing, and I find it in good taste with the story. What good love story is complete without sex? It doesn't need to be graphic, and perhaps they could make it optional, a toggle-able option? I wouldn't be in it for the sexual stimulation, I would like it for the story, the immersion! I played numerous role-playing games, specifically Gmod ClockWork Halflife 2 RP. We did have DETAILED ERP [Erotic-Role-Play] I enjoyed this aspect because it made me feel attached not only to my character but to the character my character has the romance with. Granted this type of ERP is VERY graphic, much more like Pornography than what this author meant, but it still provided the story, and attachment I wanted. I understand that people don't like to see this in games because it may or may not Itemize females. I for one enjoy games where the females AND male are fully clothed, only when the romance happens do I wish them to be less clothed, I don't see males or females as "Eye candy" I do see them as potential mates, but that is only my human instincts talking, I love my opposite sex, no matter what.

The people who posted below me.[Opinionated]

I'd just like to point out that what this man/woman making this article meant wasn't just itemized females, or males. This is just the kind of sex that feel like love, not just a large porno of none intimate garbage. Something that even the girl gamers would enjoy, and be able to say "Aww" To. Something to touch your heart, not to stimulate you genitalia. I've played many games, mass effect being one of them. I enjoyed the love portions in the game, I felt a real attachment to the the characters. I loved the story, and when they had sex I didn't mind the fade to black. I know what they are doing, and I find it in good taste with the story. What good love story is complete without sex? It doesn't need to be graphic, and perhaps they could make it optional, a toggle-able option? I wouldn't be in it for the sexual stimulation, I would like it for the story, the immersion! I played numerous role-playing games, specifically Gmod ClockWork Halflife 2 RP. We did have DETAILED ERP [Erotic-Role-Play] I enjoyed this aspect because it made me feel attached not only to my character but to the character my character has the romance with. Granted this type of ERP is VERY graphic, much more like Pornography than what this author meant, but it still provided the story, and attachment I wanted. I understand that people don't like to see this in games because it may or may not Itemize females. I for one enjoy games where the females AND male are fully clothed, only when the romance happens do I wish them to be less clothed, I don't see males or females as "Eye candy" I do see them as potential mates, but that is only my human instincts talking, I love my opposite sex, no matter what.

The Obvious Answer is "No"

Your argument makes no room for love. Casual sex is fine for consenting adults, but, there are some people who choose (for moral reasons, religious reasons, or just self respect) not to have casual sex. Women in games are not equals, and therefore they are relegated to being objects/toys (for titillation) and victims. If men were also objectified or if women were equally clothed/covered up as fellow soldiers in proper attire, then we could argue about what is degrading, but since it’s only the women who are being degraded, I object to your cavalier attitude, and I think sex and degrading women has no place in games. Yes “tits and ass are incredibly prevalent in modern society” but that doesn’t make it okay. There actually are lots of tits and asses, I mean women, who wear normal clothes and don't go around all ‘sexed-up’ for the viewing pleasure of men. There are women who think that presenting scantily clad cheerleaders at football games is like putting us on a plate like food—We’re served up as eye candy for men to enjoy with their violent sport (the same thing applies to video games) and that’s a bad message to send young girls and boys. There are no scantily clad male cheerleaders even though there are gay football players (and viewers). And when women play football, it’s in lingerie?! Oh come on! “Seduce Me” IS an objectionable title, and sex in games IS pornography. You write: “It could be argued that games focused around sex are pornographic in nature and therefore warrant some sort of segmentation perhaps, in the way is it with websites and traditionally with stores that cater specifically to it.” Yes! It should be argued. Yes, segmentation. You may be okay with it all but that doesn’t make it ‘right’ or okay with everyone. It’s not just about “[saving] the children” this stuff hurts women as well. You can’t put it off on parents as if it’s okay to put anything you want in video games because we’re “adults”. I would love to hear that conversation: The one where you explain the “adult activity” to your daughter. See honey, you’re just a set of tits and ass. So when you grow up, just make sure you walk around with lots of cleavage and short skirts and high heels. The less you cover the better. We want to imagine what it would be like to fuck you and clothes just get in the way of our fantasies. Wear as little as possible. If your boobs are big we want to see the side boob sticking out of your shirt, and don’t worry if your tits or ass aren’t big enough to turn us on, we have surgeries to fix that. We want all tits and ass, I mean all girls, to be as big and plastic and fake as possible. We don’t want you to talk either. Just let us fuck you for sport, and then we’ll leave. I also don't think sex belongs on film. I feel no inclination to watch pornography. For me, sex (love) is a special and private thing between two people who care about each other (or it should be). Anything else is just a different form of masturbation. And there are PLENTY of people who have not been "living with internet pornography for 15 years", nor living with pornography at all, haven’t seen it, don’t want to see it. Don’t say it’s “nothing we haven’t seen before” like all adults have seen pornography. There are plenty who haven’t and consider it wrong. Sex as sport cheapens the human experience and the participants. It's voyeurism and that is not something everyone is comfortable with. Some people don’t want to see that. It makes some people uncomfortable. It’s like walking in on your friends or parents or even strangers having sex. That’s not something I want to see. Maybe you do, but you have to allow that it’s not for everyone. And talking about it like it’s cool to be okay with it, doesn’t make it cool or okay. “He’s killed almost two million monsters alone. If he can commit mass murder, why can’t a game have a sex scene in it?” These are two different things. The monsters are not real. Women are real. Women are people too. We are not just tits and ass and pretty naked things to be fucked in a game. You write well and your argument shows your mindset, but that is not a scenario that is good for women nor okay with me, so I felt compelled to comment. I hope you will not get all troll-y or defensive because I’m arguing my points. No, the world will not end. What will happen, and is happening, is that women continue to be beaten, raped, murdered, mutilated, sold as sex slaves. Sexual slavery of women and children is a $32 Billion dollar business, so don’t think it’s harmless. It’s such a huge problem former President Jimmy Carter has written a book about it and calls it a human rights crisis. Objectification of (women and) sex as casual entertainment feeds this hunger for the fantasy of casual sex with and hurting, even killing women. If instead of interacting with a women as a person, one sits at home and watches the way women they are treated in video games (and masturbates/or doesn’t but gets turned on), it will take a similar experience to turn you on in the real world. As you selfishly waste your seed on pleasuring yourself, you get gratification. Then you don’t need to make an effort to ‘get off’ with a real live girl. Or if you don’t masturbate, and go out looking for a live woman, she still won’t turn you on like the images in the game, and any meaningful human interaction is lost in your fantasies. This is why I object to CosPlay where women are scantily clad. I blame games. It’s just this kind of bullshit that is spilling over into real life. Are you going to have any kind of meaningful relationship with one of those girls? CosPlay is just proof of the damage games are doing. You want to dress that way for the man you’re already in a meaningful relationship with. Great, just don’t go out in public that way. Would you dress that way in front of your son or daughter? You wrote: “The simple fact that sex shouldn’t be considered a naughty thing anymore.” Sigh. There is nothing simple about this. There is a place for naughty and that is not in video games. Sex is ‘naughty’, love is not. If you’re going to bring morality into it, what you’re saying is nothing should be naughty. There are no morals. Here’s the thing: You have to decide who you are. I learned early on after reading The Scarlet Letter what morality means to each of us, and how it affects a person if you decide something is wrong but then you don’t live up that standard—you lose everything meaningful. You have to decide what kind of man you are. What is meaningful to you. Are you the kind who lets someone get attacked and you don’t stop to help? Are you okay with someone stealing from the workplace or would you turn them in? These are decisions that we make based on what we consider right and wrong. So make these choices and define yourself. “I’m not that kind of man.” Then when those situations arise you know what to do because you know who you are. Is what you’re saying that it’s okay to have sex with women in public? Games are pretty public. They get sold on a worldwide level. So you’re okay with showing the whole world that sex means so little to you, you can participate recreationally. That there should be women you can treat this way? If there are women stupid enough to dress this way in public, then it’s okay to fuck and dump them? I REALLY don’t even want to get into a discussion about the rape part of your remarks. Rape is also not recreational. Only someone who doesn’t understand how devastating it is could speak about it as a plot line for entertainment. No one who has been raped has any ‘fantasy’ about it. That’s just the male fantasy talking. No woman wants to be raped. If she thinks she does, ask her afterwards. I bet if you got raped you’d think differently. As you may have heard, it’s not about sex, it’s about power, humiliation, pain, and is an act of violence. It makes me sad that you think sex (not love!) “deserves” to be a part of gaming. That there is emotion involved and it could be a “real way for players to connect with a character.” You’re making my point for me. Go connect with a real person. “How about include a sex scene in that game not long after the rape and make it optional.” Optional for who? I was just raped, but hey, lets’ fuck! How long do you think it takes to recover from rape? It’s not something anyone ever recovers from. It changes you forever. “Have it so that players can decide. If she goes along with it, perhaps Lara is emotionally distracted and merely trying to forget a horrific experience, thereby not building a relationship with the male counterpart.” That is like a peek behind the curtain I wish I could unsee. What? If she goes along with it? What if she doesn’t? Now you want rape in games? Emotionally distracted? More like devastated. Surprisingly you have hit upon a truth here. After being raped many women become promiscuous and blame themselves. Men should not capitalize on this. Something about what you said makes it seem like you have a fantasy of wanting to have a sex with a woman that was raped. Is it that once she’s raped, she’s garbage and you’d like her to go along with it even though she’s emotionally distracted because that way you won’t have to build a relationship with her? You got that it’s a horrific experience, so how come you don’t get that she might not want to be fucked again for a really long time. I wrote “have sex again” but that just doesn’t sound like what it is. I guess that’s what bothers me the most. I hear this as “She just got fucked, let’s have the option to fuck her again.” “Sex is a massive motivator in human life and it should be used in games as well, not just as a treat or a laughable aside, but a real part of the gameplay. It can be part of the story and part of the world the developers create.” This is not sex this is love. What are you trying to do here? “It doesn't always have to be, just as not every single racing game has to be a sim like experience, but just now and again I'd like to see some real effort put into sex.” You want effort? Make some. Sex has little effort beyond gratification. You want it to feel real, feel better? Go connect with a person. Women like this might as well be blow-up dolls. Seems where we’re headed. Try to think of your grandmother, your mother, your sister, your daughter. Is this the future you want for them. Recreational objects? I KNOW, trust me, I see it all day long, it’s hard for men (and way too many women) to see that this cavalier attitude about casual sex and being adult hurts all females, but it does. Someday, when men are equally abused and objectified, we’ll have true equality. Until then, stop treating us like things. P.S. Lewd is spelled with a "w".

The answer is not so obvious

Can't reply to your novel short of another, but a few points and we will see how long this gets. Women are already sexualized and objectified in videogames, as they are in all other forms of media, so damage done. The article seems to be questioning why there is an inequality between the forms of media that keeps depictions of sex in videogames more of a taboo. Really this is a Western Issue, Japan has games full of, or completely about sex. I would also argue that men are also sexualized in videogames. Instead of T&A they are overmuscled and scarred, and instead of bikinis and short skirts they have bare arms or chests, ripped clothes etc. Generally both genders are depicted as epitomes of our culture's view of masculinity or femininity. However, you only tend to hear complaints about the female characters setting a bad example or an unreasonable standard. It goes both ways though. You use the argument the monsters/genocide is not real in games to justify it, then argue as if the female characters are real. They are no more real than the monsters, which are a stand-in for the other by the way. The monsters could just as easily be zombies, Nazis, terrorists or any number of things people will have little to no objection to killing en masse. Change the game code and they might become blacks or Jews with little effort, only that would not be tolerated by censors or hopefully most consumers. The argument that one is okay while the other is not has precisely no validity. If games were able to be more open about sex it could be presented in good or bad ways. There should be nothing wrong with presenting meaningful relationships, or casual sex for character development, as is done in movies, books, etc. You might have a moral objection to it, but you can't impose your morality on everyone else, just as I can't impose what you may see as my lack of morality on you. Rate it appropriately for content and be done with it. And by the way the author talks about using an "attempted" rape to create a message, yet you go off on a rape happening followed by more sex. His misspelling is a minor oversight while a good portion of your argument is based on a major one. Try to read more carefully. He wants a strong female character to survive an attempted rape then be able to make a choice about how the character deals with the trauma. Presented well such an event in a game will create a strong emotional connection to a character. It might even make a lot of more gamers aware of the trauma of such an event and hopefully more able to empathize with women. Right now gamer culture tends to take the term rape very lightly, using it in conversation as a term for losing, which is not a good thing. Presenting it to gamers as a very negative and emotional event has the possibility of doing a lot of good. It still shouldn't be in kids games by any means, but for teens who are already aware of sex... maybe it should.

Fuck you and your dreams of equality you fucking object

Fuck you you fucking land whale piece of shit. Go get fucked you prude whore. Fuck your grandmother, your mother, your daughter. I'd skullfuck your daughter if I could right at this moment as she watches you hang from a ceiling fan blue all over your fucking face with her one eye. Games are fantasy, Life is shit. Fantasy makes life better. "Decide what kind of man you're going to be." u w0t m8? Are we getting into logic here because there aint no Christopher Columbus handbook, and we all know how well your gender handles logic. Nihilism, live life to the fullest. It's a fucking video game. No one acts out what they do in video games so go fuck yourself with your autistic outlook on life.

Heck no.

Natural or not, when sex starts taking up such a huge presence in society... we're losing something. It detracts hugely from the better parts of life, the stuff that actually matters.

No no no. We should NOT have

No no no. We should NOT have stuff like that in our video games. If we already have it in movies, shows, and online and other things, why would we also want it in games. Games are pretty much the only thing we have to get away from it all. Besides, video game designers probably won't feel comfortable. It's just absurd and despicable to even think like that. There are such things as kids you know. Especially teenagers...Women with big boobs and butts are enough, but sex? No! Honestly, what's wrong with this world. Women are already the main ones being targeted for this. I am a girl and I'm deeply offended.

No no no. We should NOT have

No no no. We should NOT have stuff like that in our video games. If we already have it in movies, shows, and online and other things, why would we also want it in games. Games are pretty much the only thing we have to get away from it all. Besides, video game designers probably won't feel comfortable. It's just absurd and despicable to even think like that. There are such things as kids you know. Especially teenagers...Women with big boobs and butts are enough, but sex? No! Honestly, what's wrong with this world. Women are already the main ones being targeted for this. I am a girl and I'm deeply offended.

Why are you hating?

Why is every one hating on sex in games? I bet a 10 year old can play a game like Manhunt or Prototype, but no one would give 2 shits. But one, even almost exposed piece of body, the whole world goes bat shit insane? Sure, I can understand if it's a game like Ride to Hell, but I can't understand if it's a game like Mass Effect. Get over it if your mind isn't accustomed to seeing something so normal. P.S. Over sexualized characters are just games that are sold to pubescent teenagers, but stop acting like that's in every MMORPG.

No sweetheart

It should never have to come to that. We should be happy with what we have. Almost everywhere we look we see sexual things and it shouldn't be that way. This generation is so corrupted. People in the earlier generations didn't just say," you know what? Let's put the most sexual things on our first video game" no sweetie. They were happy. Why can't we be like that now?

As soon as you (author)

As soon as you (author) derided people for critiquing games based on sex, namely parents, I knew you were pro-sex in games. You need to understand, it's not just kids that need to be protected. Adult female gamers don't need the constant barrage of hypersexualized female characters because it harms self-esteem. Not just in girls but adults too. It gets stupid when people say if you don't like don't play because we want to play games we just don't want to be treated like dirt while male gamers enjoy all the entitlements and luxuries afforded to them. The problem with sex in games is the hypersexualization and objectification of solely female characters, or mostly female characters. There is a great imbalance. If things were balanced out, males and females treated the same, shrugs... I wouldn't care. It's the fact that I feel female characters are usually the sexualized ones that bothers me the most. Worse, sometimes there is violence toward female characters who are hypersexualized and that is horrible. I won't buy those games.

But why single out video games?

Hi Alison, First off, apologies for the lack of paragraph separation, I don't think I can do that on this site in a comment. While I appreciate your comments about hypersexualized female characters -- and won't argue in the least with you, I think it's unfair to punish games specifically for that. (ironically I'm reading this article with two giant advertisements for League of Angels on the page -- including a hypersexualized female character). Let me explain: pick any set of 50 hollywood blockbusters that are rated R. Now count the number of times we see an actress in her underwear, a bikini shot, showing excessive cleavage, or topless. Repeat the exercise for male characters. Do you get the same score out of 50 for male versus female? If we talk about hypersexualized female characters, they are prevalent in all forms of media. Video games happen to be the new kid on the block and make an easy target because the rules have not been fully established yet. Sure, it might be nice to do video games "the right way" the first time around (though it's already too late for that). But is it fair to game developers to force a code of ethics on them that doesn't exist in other forms of media? Also, why is there a problem with a side boob shot in a video game in which genocide is the goal, and yet twerking is allowed to sell warez in other forms of media? I'm an adult, and I would like to be able to choose games that have adult themes that go beyond genocide. Why is that choice taken away from me? As for you not buying games where the characters are hypersexualized and violence is directed towards them: that's great. You're voting with your wallet which is exactly what you should be doing. If there is sufficient impact to the game developers, then not all will choose that route and certain themes will become a niche product. ...but niche and censored / banned are two extremely different things. Please don't choose for me, and I will not choose for you. If you feel that there are not enough games that meet your criteria, then I ask you this: If there aren't enough customers requesting a certain product, why should a game developer "take one for the team" and produce it? If there are enough people demanding the product, then some game developers should -- and would -- develop them and everyone's happy. They make money, you play their games, I still get to choose to play those games or others. I find that certain movies like Final Destination and Saw make almost a pornography out of death and torture. Their whole raison d'etre is to show mutilation in as gruesome ways as possible because their viewers get off on it somehow. There's a market for movies like that -- that doesn't include me -- and they're welcome to continue making them. I won't stop them, but I won't pay for them either. You know, when the game Catherine came out, I ran out to buy it. The thought of a game that tried to treat certain adult themes was something that I thought should be lauded. I voted with my wallet, sight unseen, in that I want to have more choices like that so I bought the game without reading much about its gameplay. Sadly it's centered around a rather boring puzzle and I didn't make it through (yet), but I made my choice and would do it again just to diversify games. Don't get me wrong, I like frag-fests too (read: first person shooters), but one can get a little numb to them after a while and want a little variety.

Only a very small percentage

Only a very small percentage of games have sex, about as small of a percentage as comic books that have sex. It's really a non-issue, if you don't want a game that has sex, play something else. It's like complaining that you don't like hot dogs, if you don't like hot dogs don't eat them, don't tell me not to eat them. You live your life and I'll live mine.

No, your hot dogs analogy is

No, your hot dogs analogy is wrong. A hot dog is an entire object. Saying "I don't like hot dogs" is like saying "I don't like games about sex." Saying "I don't like sex in games" is like saying "I don't like mushrooms on my pizza." However, unlike your pizza where you can order it without mushrooms, you can't do that with games. You either get the whole pizza, with all its toppings, or you are left to figure out what else you want to eat even though you were craving a supreme pizza (without the mushrooms).

golden age of games passed

Why can't we just have good old games? Just playing through a story. Why must they add actual sexual things? Don't most people get enough of it in their private bedrooms or on the internet, or in the media? Why must sex infect everything. It isn't the golden age of games anymore, that's for certain.

You forgot to mention

You make it seem like there's a problem with how video games portray women because god-forbid there's a little bit of flesh showing. You forget to mention that almost 100% of video games have at least one half-naked man who's shirtless and looks like he's on steroids. And guess what, nobody gives a shit. Why should they? It's just a video game. So why should anyone care about your rant.

Oh i get it

Oh i get it Women are jealous of the babes from games who are better looking and available and they fear that guys won't need their sorry real asses anymore because the babes from gaming are stealing their men hahaha i bet that's it :D

You know what

Shut the hell up! I could say things a lot worse but I won't. Men like that or like you have no lives!!! They can't get women. I bet you're a fat man eating nachos or a hotdog looking at a bunch of porn right now. So honey, get you're own life and speak for you're own ass!!! Oh, and make sure you find Jesus. You really need Him. Piece of shit.

If you can kill , steal ,

If you can kill , steal , destroy in games why the heck shouldn't you be able to watch nude bodies , have sex , rape or get raped ? People who claim otherwise are hypocrites and ridiculous and i think these self proclaimed women of gaming should learn how to talk and behave before attempting to judge the games world It's not respectful to shout like you do it in reality to your husband/boyfriend etc Adjust yourselves to the gaming world , understand it and then demand things I for one am for full content and of course with the proper rating because i'm sick and tired of dumbed down and censored games that have no taste because the adult part is removed

I have a problem with what

I have a problem with what you stated, because nowhere in the article does he state that WOMEN in the gaming industry are the reason as to why their is no meaningful sex in games. He does an I quote say that the reason is due to "lobbyist" and "complainers" Your comment bugs me because I am a woman and a gamer and I would not b bothered by sex in games. So before you go grouping us women all together maybe you should get your facts straight!

If you can kill , steal ,

If you can kill , steal , destroy in games why the heck shouldn't you be able to watch nude bodies , have sex , rape or get raped ? People who claim otherwise are hypocrites and ridiculous and i think these self proclaimed women of gaming should learn how to talk and behave before attempting to judge the games world It's not respectful to shout like you do it in reality to your husband/boyfriend etc Adjust yourselves to the gaming world , understand it and then demand things I for one am for full content and of course with the proper rating because i'm sick and tired of dumbed down and censored games that have no taste because the adult part is removed

If you can kill , steal ,

If you can kill , steal , destroy in games why the heck shouldn't you be able to watch nude bodies , have sex , rape or get raped ? People who claim otherwise are hypocrites and ridiculous and i think these self proclaimed women of gaming should learn how to talk and behave before attempting to judge the games world It's not respectful to shout like you do it in reality to your husband/boyfriend etc Adjust yourselves to the gaming world , understand it and then demand things I for one am for full content and of course with the proper rating because i'm sick and tired of dumbed down and censored games that have no taste because the adult part is removed

Lara

I just caught your comment about possibly having Lara prevent (or not) herself from being raped. You went from dumb to just a plain f'ing ahole. It's not about the games anymore, YOU, THE WRITER OF THIS ARTICLE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEMS AND YOU ARE FLAT OUT A PIECE OF CRAP. FLAT OUT PIECE OF CRAP. Go tell any female in your life your idea, you p.o.s. I PRAY you get raped one day. I PRAY IT.

You're obviously a man

As a 20-year female gamer vet, I prefer not to have tits and ass thrown in my face. I'm sure it's great if you're a loser who doesn't have any interaction with women so game porn and the internet are your girlfriends, but it's flat pathetic. I like that video games are an escape from the CONSTANT SALE OF SEX AND ANYTHING RELATED TO SEX EVERYWHERE I GO INCLUDING THE DAMN GROCERY STORE. I loved God of War until GoW2 asked me to push X, triangle, O, whatever else to simulate sex with fake f'ing women. It's not about "sex is in real life", IT'S PATHETIC AND IT PORTRAYS MEN AS EVEN MORE PATHETIC THAT THEY HAVE TO DRAW FAKE WOMEN TO HAVE SEX WITH. If you need to jerk one out before you play so you can pay attention, do it. Don't make female gamers pay for your perversions just because you can't get laid. Men aren't the only ones playing. If you want to have a sex game, make it a sex game, don't advertise it as action/adventure or role playing or ANYTHING ELSE and the throw some pathetic fake programmed female in there for your equally pathetic character to hump. Buncha pervs, leave the games alone and get a girlfriend.

Not sure I agree

I would just like to say in 32 year old man who is engaged to a very beautiful woman. I've been previously married and I have kids. I say all that to say there is nothingperverted about me.Sure I don't think sex should automatically be included I think it should be optional for the players. For example mass effect allowed you to be either gender and any orientation, and you didn't have to pursue a romance . I prefer they keep it heterosexual. I don't see anything wrong with it and the article said it in movies where you have no option but to see it. If the maturity is 18 and beyond then there's no reason kids should see it and its described what kind of content is in it.it is a welcome part of the game for me and they could actually do more for example the hot coffee mod should be standard in games I think, if it's marketed towards adults.

Finally someone talking sence

Finally someone talking sence I liked the tomb raider idear they could even have a wedding but if developers dident want the partner to remain no reason to put in some Venice overlord to kill them off like poor a lister though that wasn't any Venice phycos I know one point I have to make is sex on digital charactors ain't as bad as some real TV stuff either so mums could lie if there kids somehow saw something easy oh the remaking cakes together ect thought sexual organs might be hard toexplain if games japan based we get sad sad censorship but I understand why still shameful but also project zero could have had goast sex IMO and itsuki well if the age thing ain't to wired never checked there ages of the charactors but not to bad seeing as it's drawings not real law based I can go on but for now I just fully agree with this now my hands are acheing so good post later keep it real peace actually one more thing they should allow choice sex do it when ever no matter the mood of either chactors like sims lame I surpase even forced can be an option but I think some may disagree with that completely only for the strong hearted who don't give a toss a games a game real is real if you know wrong and right in life and gaming and can tell the difference fine who knows maybe it'll lessen some real crimes if it can be done in game graphically and any type style pregnancy in game meat puppet it might stop many assaults though some sick f**ks can't be changed saved huh but that kind of game could open some doors and even increase story lines even more bigger longer games more money made better sales and even more voice actors I meen they opened doors to porn industry once by hireling sasha grey I think her name was for Saints row3 the voice of viola anyway I'll leave it at that enjoy reading anyone sorry if it seems offensive to anyone but I wanted the right to voice my opinions freely

Agreed

Finally someone talking sence I liked the tomb raider idear they could even have a wedding but if developers dident want the partner to remain no reason to put in some Venice overlord to kill them off like poor a lister though that wasn't any Venice phycos I know one point I have to make is sex on digital charactors ain't as bad as some real TV stuff either so mums could lie if there kids somehow saw something easy oh the remaking cakes together ect thought sexual organs might be hard toexplain if games japan based we get sad sad censorship but I understand why still shameful but also project zero could have had goast sex IMO and itsuki well if the age thing ain't to wired never checked there ages of the charactors but not to bad seeing as it's drawings not real law based I can go on but for now I just fully agree with this now my hands are acheing so good post later keep it real peace actually one more thing they should allow choice sex do it when ever no matter the mood of either chactors like sims lame I surpase even forced can be an option but I think some may disagree with that completely only for the strong hearted who don't give a toss a games a game real is real if you know wrong and right in life and gaming and can tell the difference fine who knows maybe it'll lessen some real crimes if it can be done in game graphically and any type style pregnancy in game meat puppet it might stop many assaults though some sick f**ks can't be changed saved huh but that kind of game could open some doors and even increase story lines even more bigger longer games more money made better sales and even more voice actors I meen they opened doors to porn industry once by hireling sasha grey I think her name was for Saints row3 the voice of viola anyway I'll leave it at that enjoy reading anyone sorry if it seems offensive to anyone but I wanted the right to voice my opinions freely

Agreed

Finally someone talking sence I liked the tomb raider idear they could even have a wedding but if developers dident want the partner to remain no reason to put in some Venice overlord to kill them off like poor a lister though that wasn't any Venice phycos I know one point I have to make is sex on digital charactors ain't as bad as some real TV stuff either so mums could lie if there kids somehow saw something easy oh the remaking cakes together ect thought sexual organs might be hard toexplain if games japan based we get sad sad censorship but I understand why still shameful but also project zero could have had goast sex IMO and itsuki well if the age thing ain't to wired never checked there ages of the charactors but not to bad seeing as it's drawings not real law based I can go on but for now I just fully agree with this now my hands are acheing so good post later keep it real peace actually one more thing they should allow choice sex do it when ever no matter the mood of either chactors like sims lame I surpase even forced can be an option but I think some may disagree with that completely only for the strong hearted who don't give a toss a games a game real is real if you know wrong and right in life and gaming and can tell the difference fine who knows maybe it'll lessen some real crimes if it can be done in game graphically and any type style pregnancy in game meat puppet it might stop many assaults though some sick f**ks can't be changed saved huh but that kind of game could open some doors and even increase story lines even more bigger longer games more money made better sales and even more voice actors I meen they opened doors to porn industry once by hireling sasha grey I think her name was for Saints row3 the voice of viola anyway I'll leave it at that enjoy reading anyone sorry if it seems offensive to anyone but I wanted the right to voice my opinions freely

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