AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

[[AMD Vs Intel]]
The latest issue of The Microprocessor Report, considered to be a credible source of industry tendencies, features a comparison of AMD's 1.2 GHz processor with the P4 1.5 GHz.

According to the report, despite the lower clock speed the AMD processor will perform better than the P4 by about 12 percent, in current systems. The editor of the article stresses the "current systems" phrase, since he goes on to suggest that the reason behind the disappointing performance of the P4 is that programmers have not yet had the time to react to the P4's features by adapting their software.
[[Intel Fights Back]]
The article claims that the situation will tilt in Intel's favor once software is fully adapted to the changes introduced by the new chip. Much like the situation following the introduction of MMX processors.5 years ago, predictions suggest Intel will regain the edge.

Regaining the edge as far as performance is concerned will focus everyone's attention on Intel's pricing policy. It is considered certain that if they decide to maintain their old pricing ways, most consumers will turn away from the once almighty company.

The source article can be found in the links section, but requires a subscription to The Microprocessor Report.

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AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

AMD OWNZ j00 AND THATS TEH BOTTOM LINE(no, im not rippin off that WWF guy) ok i recently had the choice between buying a Intel Celeron 667 or an AMD T-bird 900 for 90bucks more (were talkin canuk buks here) ok OR i could have got a P3 800 for 240 more please do teh math Ok? now u here all teh ppl say that intel ownz, those ppl are ULTRA XTREME Newbies aiiiet now uve seen all the proof AMD OUTCLOCKS INTEL (and shitty Cyrix) BY FAR, i have a friend wit TEH EXACT SAME system as me but he has a 1Ghz P3 IT NIGGIN SUX i was playin ONI and unreal tournament on his comp IT f**kING SUCKED SHIT. please ppl if ur faced wit the choice of an intel or AMD go wit the faster,cheeper,and more relible processer the AMDCaesaR(pat)P.S. if j00 know of ne AMD sites/Anti intel sites Email me or MSN elitehacker1337@hotmail.com OR icq #7664075

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

FOR ALL YOU *NTEL USERS... FFFUUUCCCKK YYOOUU ! gO S*CK THE P4 c**k YOU SUCKERS!!! YOU WERE ALL BOUGHT BY *NTEL TO POST COMMENTS ON THESE AMD FORUNS... NUMBERS DO NOT LIE YOU STUPID MOTHERf**kERS AMD ROCKS LIKE LIMP BIZKIT... INTEL IS A WASTE OF MONEY... YOU'RE SO GOTDAMN BLIND!!! AMD WILL RULE 4ALL ETERNETY !!!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

just a quick note to "COMPUTEREXPERT" you cant be much of an expert if you think that AMD ripped off INTEL to copy their CPU's, they were the first company to make a non-Intel 386, and they have been around since the 1950's, and you should have brought a better cpu cooler for your AMD if it overheated so much. Intel are WAY overpriced and you get much better processing power for your money with an AMD. I just purchased an AMD 1.3 Ghz t.bird for #200, But I could have brought an Intel P4 for 3x as much, and have to put up with crap slow and expensive Rambus memory. Up with AMD!!!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

Dr C Smarts....Have you EVER tried to OC an INTEL CPU????? If you are trying to tell me that an AMD is harder to Oc than an Intel cpu then you must be VERY biased or just cant read whats all over the www on every techie site! And all you ppl who say Intel/AMD crashes more, its all down to how well you set your OS up - DUH! CPU's dont bluescreen, but shit OS set up with no defrag or re-installation does. I work for Tiny Computers in England selling PC for 2 years and I have also built over 400 PC's and every person who telephones us saying "The PC you sold me is shit and you will give me my money back...." only has a stupid software problem and theyre too thick to realise that their PC isnt busted. I think a lot of you guys are like this too. Get lives, its a lot better

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

I love this page.. the kiddies vs. adults. Its really sad to see that my buddie (i would love to say who you are Thomas but i wont) will not overclock the Pentium 4 because there are risky maneuvers that could jeopardize reliable operation. hehe been a wile since you had to do some math work eah, Well I did some old Execl and have some #s for you. Rambus wont bite you, jus burn, because of the heat. Your AMD clock@1466 is great, but ya just gotta try P4 1.7 clock@1833, then do that mark again because these kiddies are way out of hand. Oh and 1 more thing I just picked up a P4 1.5GHz for 248.00, Is that still way overpriced....LMAO. Dont be afraid to do a REAL BENCHMARK... Its not fair to overclock AMD and not Intel? heheeh Batter Up$$$ AMDs pres. Hector Ruiz scratchin his head again, and my Intel stock to climb. have a good day gents wile I LMAO, MrSCSI

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

A lot of bullshit in this thread...Anyway, I have 1 Athlon, 2 Durons, and 7 P4. If you people think it is cheaper to buy an AMD processor, you're thinking with a shortsightedness of a worm. With the temperature generated by the AMD processor, your CPU fan breaks down a lot faster and more often. Everything inside the casing absorbs this heat also, including your hardisk. Not to mention the noise generated by the high speed fan you have to use to keep the damn thing running below 50C to get peak performance. On the other hand, P4 could run quite nicely on no fan at all (though I wouldn't recommend it). I'm through with AMD. Stick with Pentium until AMD solves the heat problem. Besides, AMD processors may be cheaper, but the motherboard is more expensive. So the savings isn't that much to begin with. Still like AMD? Have a spare fan ready at all times!!!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

I am French integrateur and I install only AMD, I have a T -bird 1.1 overcloke to 1.4 Mhz with a SN02 to 10000 Tours +Gforce2GTSultra overcloke equally and it is the top for the games.but there exists of peoples that pay more expensive to to have a intel garbage , Intel tell their thank you

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

Jesus people learn how to spell!!!!Anyways, I think that AMD is the best. The Athalon is the best chip out there. It's fast, reliable and very afforadable!! And you can overclock the hell out of it with ease, and you want f*ck up anything! Pentium Sucks! Intel sucks! It always will suck!!!!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

I used to be an 'advocate' for Intel back in my school days (past 3 years or so) and I always loved the Intel brand, never had any problems with any of them, from Pentium 60Mhz to my current Pentium 3 800Mhz, however the Intel Pentium 4 changed all that, sure it has a faster FSB with Trace Cache but in all benchmarks it fails against the AMD 1.2 Ghz, in EVERY SINGLE TEST and in EVERY SINGLE Magazine the Pentium 4 never out did the Thunderbird except in High-End Graphics WinMark 99 (scoring 6,820 while 1.13Ghz Athlon scored 1,520) In most cases the Pentium 4 was out by a few points or a few FPS (Except in Lowest FPS on Expendable when the P4 scored 19 FPS while the Athlon scored an amazing 56 FPS). Simply put I am not going to get a Pentium 4 until it supports SDRAM (it currently only supports the very VERY buggy Rambus RDRAM) and has better capabilities and extra CPU Cache. Intel have been in a slump ever since they hit the 1Ghz line, its sad especially when I realised it and sacrificed my old 450Mhz (I keep all my old Cards) at school by burning it while a mate too photos. The older AMD cards like K6-2 were AMD's failing point but just a few months later they picked up the pace once again and are on the top on the CPU ladder. My advice would by not to buy a computer for around 4-5 months wait for a few more Benchmarks, follow the industry every day for 4-5 months and then flip a coin to see what one your gonna buy, its a hell of alot easier then wasting so long thinkin' about it.

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

Ich habe selber einen Athlon_K7 mit 700 Mhz der mir wirklich alles aber auch alles ermöglicht!Was Pentium3-4angeht ist es eine riesige Verarschung,möchtegern von Marke!die zuerst teuer und zu zweiten unnütz ist!!!!! den jetzt schon(10.Jan.01) gibt es für 350Sfr. einen AMD_Thunderbird 1Ghz, in vergleich zu P3_1Ghz 1000Sfr. Also! wer einen Pentium kauft kann nur dumm oder behindert sein!!Freundliche Grüsse an AMDund beschissene an Intel Pentium

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

Ohh for f**k sake ...Amd this Intel that...Ummm HELLO???all you people saying "my k62 500 is faster than my friends P3 650"That may be true but belive me it is not your cpu that is giving you better performance. A K62 with a Geforce video card will always beat a P3 1GHZ with a integrated 8mb shared video card.But any way this is not about p3 vs K6.Athalon is better than Pentium 3Duron is Better than CeleronMustang will be better than Pentium 4Sledge Hammer will be better than ItaniumNot to mention amd always have been and always will be cheaper.thank you have a nice day :-)

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

To K-boomassuming u will use your computer for playing games dual p3 will be useless (not to mention VERY expensive)1.2 GHZ t'bird will beat dual p3 any way.not to mention that 1.2 Ghz athalon is half the price of p3 1GHZ.ps suport for dual amd cpus (t'bird and duron)should be available with in the next few months

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

I'm Asian People,Kurasa Intel dan Pentiumnya tidak akan dapat mengalahkan AMD Processor apalagi dengan T-Bird & Duronnya, Bravo AMD, Viva AMD teruslah Jaya, and For you Intel don't ever Monopoly the bisnis again, try hard to beat AMD he.. he.. he....And to Intel Fan Give up U think your Smartest than anyone else!!!!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

My god you people SINCE WHEN has something cheaper been better! It seems like you people have never touched AUTOCAD in your life! try to render a 2800x1600 translucent lighting array with 3000 frames in a 360 rotation on an AMD ANY TYPE ANY SPEED and you will find that on the FASTEST AMD it takes a PAINSTAKING 2 months! As soon as an AMD warms up it starts dropping in performance those STUPID magazines do their crappy benchmarks on cold booted systems try it on a machine that has been rendering for 2 months 24/7 on a project and by the end of the first day AMD has already dropped a 21% on its speed due to temp and cache losses its no joke try it! the ACAD time dial actually READS: 1527 Hours with 57 Seconds remaining! the Intel Px ANY Speed works the same speed all the time, any time! Besides if you have a motherboard with anything else that is not an Intel WHATEVER chipset be prepared for SERIOUS problems on Windows 2000 or NT VIA chipsets are GAY! WINDOWS 95 IS GAY! and ANYONE STILL USONG 95 IS GAY TOO! two words: VIA and crash are always present in your mind during a Win 2k installation! on 2000 SOMETIMES they work and they dont support 1/3 of the features the Intel ones do! and if you think VIA sucks you dont even want to touch the SiS or ALi chipsets THOSE ARE VERY SHITY! IF VIA IS GAY.. THOSE ARE HERMAFRODITES!Just use your small brain for one second AMD "EL CHEAPO" LOVERS! there are VERY good reasons why ENTERPRISE MISSION CRITICAL SERVERS are NOT based on AMD chips and are based on Alpha RISC or INTEL Px chips and the price has nothing to do with it those servers cost 150,000 dollars and have 1 gig of ram and consist of SEVERAL Silicon Graphics servers linked to one another. THE PRIMARY REASON IS PERFORMANCE! noone wants a mission critical server CRASHING at the end of the 2nd day of boot up because the proccesor load was too great and the server lost 55% of its proccesor power! That is the reason AMD chips are cheaper and supposedly FASTER, AMD are like

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

(Cont. from below) 100M dash runners they run much faster than a marathon (Intel) runner but they cant stand LONG HOURS OF USE! Adding 2+2 on a stupid benchmark program for one week is NOWHERE NEAR the REAL THING! they should benchmark using real aplications not addups! it has never been a secret even since the early AMD X5 133Mhz (486) CPU that AMD was much faster.. not faster.... MUCH faster than any Intel chip doing basic math and guess what benchmark program tests are made up of??? Well but ofcourse! BASIC MATH!this means they basically test how many arithmetical operarations can be done PER SEC what they dont say is the Weth to Dhry stones ratio, Proccesor intrrupt calls, cache access latency circuit eficiency.. ETc..Etc..Etc..AMD will always mark faster on a magazine benchmark even on normal CPU benchmarks because there is NO REAL test to a CPU but using it and finding out for yourself, what has always been a secret on AMD CPUs is that the decrease proccesing power with time of use, try it yourself! boot, run a bench mark, then REMOVE your OHHMYGODRIVAWHATEVERGEForceGOEASYONMYLAMEPROCCESORBYUSINGYOURINTERNALPROCCESORINSTEADOFMYALLEGEDFASTAMDCPU CARD then attack a STANDARD VIDEO CARD (IE, Cirrus Logic 5664 PCI or Trident 9514 PCI) NOT AN AGP CARD! A PCI OR ISA CARD! THOSE REALLY MAKE THE PROCCESOR WORK! then run any game that uses intense 3D (IE Half-life or Unreal Torunament) RUN THE GAME IN SOFTWARE MODE AT 1600x1200 (OHH YOUR PROCCESOR IS GONNA CRY!) Why software mode???? well for a very good reason! you have probably never tried using sofware, and ofcourse why use it! theres no need to! your card looks much better in OpenGL or Direct3D well ofcourse it does! with your card the game looks THE SAME in a Pentium 200 MMX than it does on a Pentium 4 1.2 GH! Dont believe me?? try it!!! the game loads MUCH SLOWER but the game itself?? works flawlessly! With these new cards, proccesor makes no diference! the AGP slot and the card do all the work! in order to fu

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

in order to fully test it you must run the game on a PCI card on SOFWARE MODE.. NOT DIRECT3D! SOFTWARE and then mark the FPS after that change your CPU to an Intel and mark that too, check your results. after all the tests are done use the computer normaly and leave it ON as in DO NOT TURN IT OFF!! with the AMD proscessor (AND DISSABLE THE CRAPPY CD-R SCREWING POWER MANAGMENT! IF ITS SLEEPS, IT RESTS AND THEN THE BENCHMARK DOESN'T COUNT) for one week then do the bench mark again and you will note a 30% proccesing drop on the AMD while only a 6% on the Intel and the Intel's MAX power drop is 12% while the AMD goes all the way down to 83% drop after 3 months the AMD is almost not working at all! DONT BELIEVE ME??? TRY IT YOURSELF!!! I already did and found that out! I Work for a company and we decided to find out what was the diference between the two chips and thats what we found out!and REMEMBER THIS!BASIC RULE OF LIFE!The higher the price... The better the quality!This has ALWAYS been true on all aspects of life just look at the car you drive! why drive an Infinity for 40k US when theres cheaper cars like a 20k 2000 camaro that pack a bigger punch! well THINK FOR A SECOND!!! there is a reason im shure you will find it when you GROW UP!HINT: How many times to you repair a Camaro after 3 years of use? compare that to an Infinity! and AMAZE YOURSELF!Power is nothing.....Quality is EVERYTHING!

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

Higher Price Better Quality?Maybe true for some things but lets see they compared a 1.5ghz P4 which costs minimum of $833 to the T-bird 1.2ghz which costs as low as $262 and right now it beats it by 12%?Sure once they release software it will be better but coming soon amd will release its 760 chipset which will use DDR SDRAM which will add up to another 20% increase that will take care of the software increase so in the end they will be about equal now it doesnt make since to spend near 3 to 4 times more for a cpu with little or no gain in performance. Does it make since to you?Sure i would buy intel if i was gonna make a server right now cuz i would love to have dual or quad zeons in a server but i dont see that happening anytime near soon so i want a gaming pc and amd is where i'm at and i'll stay here until intel can impress me with something hell the P4 is much better than the P3. And as for your last post firestorm why in the hell would you not want to turn off your computer for that long a period of time i leave mine on for maybe a day or two max maybe with a server or something but thats different we dont all own serversTrue intel rules the server world(at least for now anyways) but they dont own the gaming world nuff said

AMD 1.2 GHz better than P4 1.5ghZ but...

This debate is simple. AMD is beating Intel on the sales more people are buying AMD. I have an AMD duron 800mhz and it fully rockz i also have p3 800mhz and it fully sucks..and for the smart ass further down the page what gamer need to leave their computer on for weeks? AMD has never been strong on server cpu's but is hoping to fix that with thenew mustang.....my case rests AMD KICKZ ass Intel SUCKZ...

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