ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

[[Finally Ready]]

ATI has now officially released its X1K range of products, in a design which brings so many changes to the company's line-up that it becomes hard to keep up. ATI may have been left behind by nVidia this summer but the Canadians are back and they want top spot.

ATI's new cards have been known as R520 and as Fudo but none of these names have helped them turn up on time for the company. Initially expected in May/June 2005, in time to compete with nVidia's GeForce 7800 GTX, the cards were delayed. Rumors that the 90nm process had been causing ATI engineers sleepless nights or that part of the XBox 360 deal with Microsoft stipulated a delay of the R520 until X360 was ready have been dismissed by the graphics giant. The company claims, instead, that a simple circuit bug kept clock speeds down and resulted in a revision of the design causing the delay. Conspiracy theorists however, insist that there was no way that ATI could have the Xenos chip for X360 using the 90nm process ready on time and already in mass production but still claim that the R520 was facing design problems. Whatever the reasons behind the delay the fact remains that ATI lost valuable ground, to arch-rival nVidia, in the battle for graphics supremacy and the pressure is now on the X1K range to produce a winning performance for the company.

[[An Entire Family]]

The X1K range will not be limited to the high-end products but will offer a product for every purse with prices ranging from just under USD 100 to the dizzying heights of the Radeon X1800XT, expected to cost around USD 550.
ATIs choice to reveal details of the range today however, is slightly misleading as it implies that all boards will be available even though only the low end versions i.e. X1300S and X1800XL are immediately available.
As you can imagine, such a vast range covers all forms of tastes but all versions will carry a similar set of features which will be the trademark of the X1K range.

Full X1K Range Details and Expected Prices

The new range has performed very well in the current sets of tests comparing it to nVidia's boards, suggesting that ATI may have taken it's time for a reason. The high-end card (X1800 XT) seems to beat nVidia's GeForce 7800 GTX, especially when AA and AF are utilised. ATI finally has a product that fully supports Shader Model 3.0 with the Canadians claiming that their boards will perform better in games that feature long complex shaders and lots of dynamic branching. The adaptive antialiasing and higher-quality anisotropic filtering mode, also seem to deliver the goods for the company and the X1800 XT is shown to just break the 9K score in 3DMark05, well ahead of its rival's product with differences reaching 25 per cent at 1600x1200 with 4xAA and 8xAF tests.

[[So What?]]

With the X1K range ATI has stuck to what it knows best, efficiency. Offering cards with fewer pixel shader pipelines to those of its rival, the company still manages to squeeze every bit of performance out of them by the much higher clock speeds.

A Comparative Look at the Gladiators

You can just imagine what a crossfire system with two X1800XTs in it would be like but for most of us a single card will be more than enough.

Even though ATIs new baby beats its rival in almost every test, the important one it is currently behind nVidia in the most important one; availability.

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ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

Look at the benchmarks. The x1800 series is barely better then the 7800 series. And nvidia is going to release a revision of the 7800 very soon. ATI in no way can keep up with that. Not to mention the fact that you won't be able to find the x1800 is stores for still at least a month.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

It is still too early to tell, and depending on the application the leader will change... But, even if ATI's card does end up winning by quite a bit, it has taken ATI almost 6 months to answer nVidia's 7800GTX, it would be a sore dissapointment on ATI's part if the card didn't beat the 7800GTX. One side note, the GTX was widely available on release, try to get you hands on a x1800

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

i think people will start buying consoles with pc cards costing so much. I think SonyPlaystation3 having a keyboard and mouse will surely make most pc users scoff at the prices of pc cards and migrate to consoles. I know for a fact i will be playing more of my games on consoles because of the OUTRAGEOUS pricing of video cards. I'll use my pc for pc needs and keep gaming on consoles as i truely believe these consoles will kill pc in the near future. Only idiots will continue to pay outrageous prices for these video cards.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

When will ATI use V3.0 shaders i mean Nvidia had the 6600 bored released a little more then a year ago and ATIs latest ballsup the r600 still has v2.0 shaders and its been released in a year WTF??? and ati just has launched is Crossfart SLi impersonation when nvidia was doing it allmost a year before Unless ATI matches Nvidia is gonna die ! and if you dont belive what i say look at all the games that support nvidia and then look at the mear 3 that support ati

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

- ATi uses V.3 Shader, check before saying fake things.- Their clock speed is at 1GHZ while nVidia still at 800...- I never seen problems with ATi drivers so stop finding problems when there's none. The Catalyst softwares are the best out there, can't say the same about nVidia crappy drivers.Who invented almost all new technologies (including GDDR4) ? -> ATI. We can say that nVidia did copied technologies from ATi.A major point to prove: why does IBM doesn't sell any Nvidia? Because its crap.The games looks much better on ATI since they have modules to smooth graphics and better anti-aliasing and that make a much bigger difference.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

all u nvidiots, get it right, take a look at the x1800's specs. It beats the 7800 in every way, performance, quality (Avivo), shader3, drivers, technology (90nm, faster memory/core speeds). So what if they have 16 pipes, if thats the case, why are they still winning! bump it to 24 or 32 like nvidia and nvidia will look like a baby toy...

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

and ati does not know how to make money its gross loss of over 100million.. (HAHA) and avalible products not to mention the new card will cost s**t loads more thna a gtx and Nvidia has just released a patch which will close the gap... thank god i only spent $1500 NZD on two GTX's !!

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

To omosaATI still leads in everyway except for high end. ATI has the bigger market share. Nvidia lost close to two hundred million when they f'd up the NV30 or 5800ultra. ATI struck a deal with Intel making ATI the biggest provider of Intel boards and chipsets. Not to mention the XBOX 360 deal. 2006 is going to be owned by ATI. The X1800XT wins back the performance crown. X800XL is still the biggest leader in mainstrem same with the X800GT. Don't be mad man ATI owned Nvidia with their X1800XT FACT

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

Oh btw Jinit is only faster 20-30% at really high res and AA settings in DX games mate! OpenGL it gets OWNED! maybe you have a monitor that uses 2048*1536 but most people i know only use 1280*1024 and in this region its only about 10-15% faster even in DX games.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

Lick my balls america you bunch of b***hes. ATI is better in every way, they have consistently outpreformed you nvidia whores. Anyone who uses nvidia is mentally defficient, superior intellectuals use superior cards. By the way omosa your one of those Epsilon Mynuses (For those who have read brave new world). You were deprived of oxygen in the womb, along with the rest of you fatass american idiots.Alpha Iomega has spoken.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

YAWN...what a bunch of boring tossers all you ATI/NVIDIA fanboy wankers are!mines better than yours..no mines better than yours..no mine better than yours etc etc etc ad infinitum.ZZZZZZZzzzzzZzzzzstfu and get your fvcking homework done you jumped up little fvck heads!

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

ATI's wonder card is only 5% faster in hl2 then nvidia's 6 month old gtx.Yes ATI really showed us,heheh.BTW.ATI waited for the release so long because of the high price of ram which is the only reason why ATI is a bit faster then nvidia's 800mhz ram.If the both cards would use the same ram,ati would get spanked like a george michael in la's closet;)

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

Expensive yes the ATI is but with the 7800GTX already showing limitations in future games the writing is written clearly on the wall that it's done SLI or no SLI it's shader model 3.0 support is sad and the games supporting it are less than a month away.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

TO OmosaTrue Nvidia is faster in OpenGL and ATI faster in D3D. There are millions more D3D games than OpenGL, so thats that. When HDR+AA+AF is turned on at high res the X1800XT destroys the 7800GTx, not by a little a lot man just checked some of the latest reviews. The X1800XT is a shading monster. I say that Nvidia has already squeezed out all the performance they can out of the 7800GTX driver wise, well the X1800XT has a lot more room a head of it. I mean thats how the R520 was made so that each driver release would give it a huge performance increase. You must try to understand the architecture behind the X1800XT its just superior. R520 even has support for GDDR4.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

USA owns. I hate all other countries. Keep watching what the US does. Nosey f**ks. Like we know anything about your countries. We own all, reason all others are jealous of us. Keep the s**t talking nubs, how about we blow your f**king country up? GG

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

y would u spend that nuch money on a graphics card??? r u guys that stupid??? howbout you dont buy the new card and save up for a nxt gen console which is less than the price of 1 of the cards!!!let alone 2 and the console gfx cards will b much morepowerful then then either of nVidia or ATI's flagship cards!!!!!!!!!

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

sorry guys. Spending 800$ canadian for a 20 frames speed bump from my x800xt would be utter stupidity. My card runs every pc game out there with ease. Sure i cant always turn up 8xaa etc etc but i can always go 1280/720 or even 1600 with all game options on in most cases and get gorgeous picture.. Alls i have to say is people will start buying consoles now that they truely can do what pc's can do and seeing as sony 3 will have a mouse and keyboard u can forget about pc's having any advantages at all in gaming. Sorry until graphics cards hit .399$ at the most for the best cards i'll start my gaming on sony 3 and maybe xbox360 if the idiots use keyboard and mouse for first person shooters. I can already see ati and nvidia having to stop this gouging of its customers.

ATI - nVidia - X1K Sparks Face-Off

ATI flopped big time. How can you stupid canadians expect to rival a 24 pipeline card with 16 lines!!! Don't you teach math up there? The extra clocks are worthless because nvidia has more pipes! Just look at the fill rates. 10.38>10.08 Nvidia is slower, but fills faster, and that makes for better FPS - NOT BANDWIDTH STUPID CANADIANS

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