ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

Just as the NV40 received its official baptism, amidst a frenzy of benchmarking praise, and ATI choose to trouble the waters by voicing some doubt over the, perceived, global graphics dominance of nVidia's new board.

The way ATI wants to describe the claims is that their offering, X800PRO when announced, has cut-down on extra features in order to focus on speed. This dedication to speed, claim ATI, will mean that their 12 pipeline boards running at 475MHz(Core)/950MHz(Memory), featuring 96-bit precision and just PS 2.0 shader, will be faster than their rivals 16 pipeline boards running at 400MHz(Core)/1100MHz(Memory), featuring 128-bit precision and PS 3.0 shader.

Such a claim from ATI, as extremely optimistic as it may seem, probably means that the Canadians believe the X800PRO will give the 6800 Ultra a good fight and will hold the fort for them until their new chip, now codenamed R500, carrying 128-bit precision and PS 3.0, is announced near the end of this year.

The secret to this fight however, remains in the chip revisions which both manufacturers will implement. If nVidia have squeezed all they can out of the NV40 core with the 6800 Ultra, they might find that later incarnations of the R420 may produce, real-world, performance similar to their flagship chip. It is nevertheless, unlikely that nVidia have done all they can with the NV40 core already and experts suggest that a couple of tweaked revisions may surface, as the need arises.

We will all have to wait until ATIs official X800PRO announcement comes in order to see both cards Duke-it out, so for the time being we all have to follow ATIs official teaser suggestion and Get ready to Xperience it.

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ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

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ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

i can tell the difference from 25fps vs 40fps vs >60fps in game that is. videos are encoded at 25 fps and play smoothly, but i notice that when gaming turning left or right, things get a little choppy. thats my experience from playing UT. experienced 24fps on my old amd k6 450 with voodoo3. on my latest computer i've felt 40fps by setting the internet connection type to dialup, at this setting UT limits your fps to 40max. on cable setting, i've gone over 100fps. it feels completely different, everything is so smooth when turning. during the old days 25fps felt amazing, i remember going oooooo, so smooth when i got the voodoo3. now when i look back at it, its choppy(mostly from turning)... point is, your limited to what you have experienced. anyone who hasn't felt higher fps don't care about getting over 40fps. those who have would like to maintain their accustomed fps. you can test this your yourself with fraps (a utility that displays your fps when rendering direct3d or opengl, also works for video files), [url removed] .

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

7:7 23/4/2004, there is NO limit to the maximum fps the eye can see, it has NEVER been proven that there is a maximum limit. The eye absorbs all the fps its given. Though im sure there is a point where your brain cant comprehend more fps, it would be extremely high. around 700 fps would be my guess.

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

You guys still dont get it do you... The 6800 Ultra is over all better than the 9800 XT and it is more than 2x faster. Now some fool below me talking about the 6800Ultra is a speed demon but the 9800XT has better visual quality. That is BULL SHIT! Perhaps you didnt read the f**king review properly. Stupid ATI fanboys.

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

You guys,it seems like, the more you say 'ATI rules', the better their cards will be.....duh..... get a life.I say wait for ati results --and pick the best card for yourselves. I don't follow/worship any ''logos'', i just take what PROVES really good. For now i use a 9800 xt. I pretty much enjoy it , but like someone posted here --- releasing new drivers every 3 weeks sux---- i agree with that. I'd say ATI has got the power today, but it lacks some things Nvidia has.I'd repeat AngryTino's post -- agressive, but TRUTH

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

I'm gonna buy a Nvidia 6800 right outa the box AND an ATI X800 direct then take both of them and set the ati on the nvidia and put a torch to them so they'll melt together with an additional fan then put some superglue on them and put it on my motherboard. I bet then we'd see some frames per second.

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

Agreed DogRazor.Nvidia was always known for their quality, etc.I'm switching back to GeForce.WAAAY too many games are being released with ''''the way it's..'' logo : this fact alone MEANS something.FXs were packed with some new tech as well, but they crawled. Now 6800 has +more technological advantages, + The Horsepower ! Take a look at some games' troubleshooting forums : in most casesthere are more tech-issues with ATI cards. Which once again shows their ''quality''.In ps2.0 times ATI were ''closely cooperating'' with Microsoft in dx9 developement. Nvidia chose a different path...and got WHACKED !( it had it coming,if you ask me). Now it seems it won't be doing such wild experiments. Absolutely -- 6800 is Nvidia's comeback, Even IF the new 6800 will be slower than ATI, it will be still of a MUCH better wuality. And i woud go for quality.It's like :ATI wears the speed-crown, but the problem is -- the thing is RUSTY. But ATI hasn't shown us their new card yet. Just wait and see.

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

NVIDIA's new card delivers a performance jump not seen for a long time. The device is also solidly engineered as well as insanely fast.12.000 points in 3DMark 2003. A score of over 60.000 in AquaMark 3. Over 60fps in Halo at 1600x1200 and more than 50fps in FarCry with High FSAA and 4tap anisotropic filtering at 1024x768 - these are numbers that will bring tears of joy to PC enthusiasts everywhere.-Tom's Hardware----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------"In the near future, we are pretty sure that Nvidia is going to win the graphics crown back from ATI.""Nvidia will win the race hands down. Nvidia will be unchallenged in the power race."IF PEOPLE - read the ATi fanboyz who bothered to flame us - thought we were overconfident in this article, estimating the huge performance jump Nvidia were going to make when introducing its sixteen pipeline NV40, then they're going to have to think again.Numerous sources have confirmed that a Futuremark 3DMark 2003 score of12,535 has apparently been demonstrated by Nvidia on its pre-production engineering samples.So, if what we're hearing about Nvidia's NV40 is true, then its sixth generation desktop 3D graphics accelerator is shaping up to be mighty.However, in light of today's news, we'll mention that that same source said that the ATI R420 was slower.Sources close to ATI have said that a score of 10,000 3DMarks for ATi R420 "would be a dream", indicating that R420 Revision: CeBIT 2K4 wasn't pulling this level of numbers.-The Inquirer-

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

"ATI doesn't have Shaders 3.0 while Nvidia is happy to show off that it has, happily showing us in Geneva. Shader 3.0 is a very nice feature I have to admit and it won't be easy for ATI to justify its lack. ATI stays PS 2.0 and 96 bit precise only."-The Inquirer----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------NVIDIA has seemingly pulled out all stops in an attempt to deliver cutting edge graphics with its GeForce 6800 Ultra.With 222 million transistors, 16 real pixel pipelines in a superscalar design, full performance when using 32 Bit floating point precision, pixel and vertex shaders 3.0, 6 vertex shader units (600 million polys/s), an integrated video processor that supports MPEG encoding and decoding in hardware, GDDR 3 memory offering a bandwidth of 35,2 GB/s, rotated grid anti-aliasing, anisotropic filtering up to 16x, on-demand real trilinear filtering - and these are just the bare essentials that only even begin to describe the chip that will make the heart of any gamer go a-flutter."-Tom's Hardware-

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

there's no way ati is faster than nvidia right now. the specs are out and the cards are tested and proven (at least nvidia did, but with ati's specs there's no way ati can beat nvidia both graphically, speed, power and technology wise). nvidia is back and they pack a hell of a punch!

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

ATI will be making a BIG mistake if they don't pack their r420s with PS3.0 support.Add the fact ,that it'll be slower than Nvidia - a nasty future is forming up for ATI.As for Nvidia - they did what today's game-enthusiasts really needed : a leap in new games' performance. Halo, Angel of darkness etc. were UNPLAYABLE at high res with all eye-candy turned on --- fair and square...until now.Another example is Spellforce : at first i couldn't imagine a machine on which it wouldn't crawl :) Now i've heard it'll be bundled with a 6800U from some retailer - good news! Today's games were ''begging'' for such a card for a loong time.I mean :30-40 fps in Halo --- that's definetely NOT 'the way it's meant to be played''...I hope they fix their shader quality with the final Forcewarez, coz in ,say, Far Cry -- some rough pixels can be seen.

ATI Say X800PRO Faster Than 6800 Ultra

Man ive just seen the first benchmarks for the Nvidia 6800 pro and shit me it packs a punch, the review is on tomshardware.com check it out.if ATI dont want to look really stupid by saying that its betta than the nvidia they betta get there canadian fingers burning cuz this card is 2X or 2.5X faster that a 9800 XT and 9500 Ultra. Dam ATI might really be stuck to beat this beast.its time for them to re tweak there shiite.lolhere comes all the noob posts. LOL

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