Blizzard: Valve’s DOTA ‘Is Not The Right Thing To Do’

Blizzard Entertainment EVP of game design Rob Pardo has expressed his disappointment at Valve's decision to trademark and develop a Defense Of The Ancients clone called DOTA.

"To us, that means that you're really taking it away from the Blizzard and Warcraft III community and that just doesn't seem the right thing to do," he told Eurogamer.

Defense of the Ancients is a widely popular mod for WarCraft III and it is usually short named as "DOTA" by its fans. In Defense of the Ancients, two teams of up to 6 players each try to use the heroes' abilities, upgrades and enchantments tactically in order to defeat the other team's heroes and help their army win.

During the recent Blizzcon fan convention in Anaheim, CA, Blizzard unveiled "Blizzard DOTA", a new StarCraft II map inspired by the original WarCraft III DOTA.

Pardo noted that Valve is well known for supporting the mod community, and that's why "It just seems a really strange move to us that Valve would go off and try to exclusively trademark the term considering it's something that's been freely available to us and everyone in the Warcraft III community up to this point. "

Valve's DOTA's development is being led by IceFrog, the custodian for the DotA Allstars variation of the WarCraft III mod. According to Valve, the only major difference between the new DOTA and the original one is in the graphics and the integration with Steam.

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good id rather have valve own

good id rather have valve own the rights than blizzard who would charge monthly to play it and would charge for heroes aswell. Then bring out expansions every 2 years and milk it for all its worth like the spawn of satan bobby kotick who is doing nothing innovative for the gaming industry what so ever.

Better Gabe Newell than

Better Gabe Newell than Robert Kotick. With that guy in charge of Activision Blizzard a DoTA game by them would have required a monthly fee to play and probably a $15 fee to switch heroes. Hey... it's Robert Kotick.

Wrong.

Blizzard isn't claiming any exclusivity here, Valve is. If you'd bother reading down the comments you'd find out that Blizzard is in fact hoping to keep it open for everyone. If there's someone who could be called greedy, it's Valve for trademarking DotA, as this is what the Blizzard's speech was about. It's this news article that's gotten it horribly wrong.

Please fix this piece of news. The message that I'm replying to is what people actually currently understand from it, but if you'd read the entire public speech by Blizzard, or read the coverage on it anywhere else, you'd realize that this matter is currently presented falsely on this site.

DOTA?

The DOTA modification is for PUSSIES :))

All you do is be addicted to a free-to-play game yet ending up FUCKED UP!

Who gives a fuck if ICEFROG, the creator, decides? It's not for the WC3 fans to hinder it. :))

A bit confused

Has it been stated anywhere that Valve intends to make money off this? I don't understand why this is the assumption, since Valve did the same thing with Alien Swarm, and that was free. I don't think its really taking away from the mod community, or the DotA/LoL/HoN community for that matter if it is released for free, the only difference being you have to download Steam first.

A bit confused

Has it been stated anywhere that Valve intends to make money off this? I don't understand why this is the assumption, since Valve did the same thing with Alien Swarm, and that was free. I don't think its really taking away from the mod community, or the DotA/LoL/HoN community for that matter if it is released for free, the only difference being you have to download Steam first.

A bit confused

Has it been stated anywhere that Valve intends to make money off this? I don't understand why this is the assumption, since Valve did the same thing with Alien Swarm, and that was free. I don't think its really taking away from the mod community, or the DotA/LoL/HoN community for that matter if it is released for free, the only difference being you have to download Steam first.

K

First of all, it's 5 players per team, not 6.

Secondly, Ice Frog, the current Dota map programmer, wasn't the original creator. He was passed the torch by Guinsoo, who went on to make League of Legends. Ice Frog has been doing an amazing job with the map since then, bringing dota much further than Guinsoo ever could have, imo. But Ice Frog has no right to the name.

Valve should come up with a fresh name for their dota-clone just like HoN and LoL did, just like every other dota-clone will have to. The fans will follow Ice Frog, as will the competitive scene, so by changing names they're not losing many players.

Misunderstanding in the news.

Sorry to inform you but this piece of news has understood the facts somewhat wrong. Blizzard isn't against Valve creating their DotA clone, it's against Valve licensing the DotA trademark for themselves. This concern was originally voiced by the original DotA community themselves, Blizzard simply helped to make it more visible in press by making a public statment on the fact.

 

And yes, Blizzard is currently developing their own DotA clone, but it isn't a seperate game that they plan on using to generate revenue. It will be a free map downloadable to everybody who purchased a copy of Starcraft 2.

 

In the end it is completely understandable that a community project like DotA should stay as such. Blizzard isn't claiming exclusivity on it, in fact they're supporting the opposite, that everyone who wants could create their own DotA clones can do so if they please. It's Valve here who's doing the exact opposite, they're trying to secure rights to a game that they're planning on developing, which is common procedure in the business. The unfortunate thing is that they're not willing to settle for creating a DotA clone and renaming it something else, instead Valve hopes to lock down the DotA name for themselves and simultaneously locking everyone else from ever creating such content.

 

Please fix the article to reflect the actual situation as "Blizzard: Valve’s DOTA ‘Is Not The Right Thing To Do’" was never Blizzard's opinion. They never claimed to be against Valve creating a DotA clone, what they're against is the trademarking of said project. Again, I'd like to point out that the concerns of trademarking were voiced by the DotA community itself before Blizzard even had anything to do with the matter. Blizzard only served as a conduit to deliver the message to general public.

FU BLIZZARD

BLIZZARD DID NOT DEVELOP DOTA

a modder created DOTA totally free, Blizzard did not help in ANY form. And they try to take credit for DOTA?

REALLY?

how about i take credit for creating the fucking internet? WHEN I REALLY DIDNT.

Its a shame activision bought blizzard, Once upon a time blizzard was a GOOD COMPANY. To bad they had to be bought up by a greedy corporation like activision.

FUCK BLIZZARD! DOTA IS NOT THEIR GAME!

Correction

Blizzard was never bought by activision. The two companies were merged together by their parent company Vivendi in order to create a contender for EA in terms of economics.

THe banner at bottom of page says it all

Lol, dota is dated, LOL is twice the game dota ever thought off. Notice CNC4 attempt to be more dota like. I personally think blizz(and im a fanboi) is overstepping itself trying to say that they own the monopoly on a type of game that is not unique and hasnt been since 2007

Hi

Blizzard only care about the money in this case. Before Icefrog got invited to corporate with Valve he got an inquiry to make a DotA game with Blizzard, but under a short period. Which means Blizzard don't seem to care about DotA fanbase. Blizzard was just looking for a cheap group of players unlike Valve who really want to take this game to the next level

wtf

maybe instead of being little babies about it, Maybe blizzard should of put out a game themselves?

Instead of trying to figure out how to add another gamebreaking change to world of warcraft that the players do not want, they could of designed a DOTA clone in-house and it would take them less than a week.

But no, they instead point the finger at valve,

fk you blizzard.

dam blizzard

huh?? who cares its not like valve is stealing the game, it will still be available for warcraft 3. I think its a good thing that valve is making a game similar to DOTA but as a stand alone product. The original creators made an awesome game and they deserve some credit for it as a stand alone game. Though I personally got sick and tired of DOTA a few years back.

..err.. maybe you don't get what 'trademark' means.

Extending the life of DOTA and putting in further upgrades (cosmetic or logical) is all fine and dandy, especially if one of the creators is actually behind it..

But by putting a trademark on it, it means that someone, or in this case, some greedy corporation, has the power to 'lock' the name and the game.

Means you and I won't be able to mod the game unless we pay them some form of royalty. the game which was originally FREE to begin with.

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