CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

nVidia are not about to let ATI get them one more time. The latest "leaks" claim that they are about to spring a little surprise on their rivals and, of course, on the poor unsuspecting public. Only months after the official release of the chip, formerly known as NV30, it is rumoured that, nVidia are about to release some information on their newest chip, possibly called the NV31. The information will be presented during CeBit 2003 which will run from March 12th to the 19th and is held, annually, in Hannover, Germany.
Despite falling attendance figures during last years' exhibition, CeBit remains the best platform on which hardware manufacturers attempt to charm and sweet-talk wholesellers and the, always present, unsuspecting public, into big deals.

ATI are also expected to give CeBit visitors a sneak peak at their forthcoming offering. CeBit this year is bound to convince everyone that the good old days of tough graphics competition may be back. nVidia now have something to prove and ATI are on their way to proving themselves into the hearts of that same poor unsuspecting public.

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CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

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CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

damn hell. nVIDIA has released the f**king-hell-damn-fast video card and now they are saying that there is something new, and fast. They are kidding with the customers, and the customers aren't perceiving that. i.e: An guy saves $400 and for 3 weeks he thinks he has the most powerful chip, after that, the video card vendor announces something faster. It's good but in the other hand, this sucks...

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

Geforce FX, a bit to little, too late. mabye if that would have come out the end of this year, who knows, mabye, but ati is a few steps ahead of them now. and then saying that they're going to put out an even faster video card right after the fx, who will want to buy it? not me, i'll stick to the radeon 9700pro. fast as hell, and mabye even faster then the fx, we'll see!!

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

Well, The Geforce FX is is going to be faster then the 9700 pro definately. It has to be. The true arguement isn't between the GFFX and the 9700Pro! The true competition is between the GFFX and the Next ATI card. The 9700 Pro was ATI's answer to the GF4 4600, and they kicked its ass royally! ATI just got lucky that Nvidia f**ked up and screwed themselves over with the GFFX. This is actually a great thing for everyone because this makes a HUGE amount of competition between the two companies and prices will drop as the product! I hope ATI kicks Nvidia's ass and then Nvidia counters and so on so that we get the most kick ass cards sooner than imagined. Also, PLEASE MATROX MAKE A TRUELY COMPETITIVE CARD!! A third competitor would make those $400 price tags dissapear instantly! Microsoft is a perfect example of what happens when there is no competition.

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

ok first of all. if all you want to do is be a fanboy then don't even wast the time of us who want some decent discusion going on in here. if all you can say is ATI rulz!!! of NVIDA kicks @$$. then go away. and commenting on Wrenis Pinkle's comment "it has to be" it doesn't necisarily have to be. there using some outdated stuff. mainly the 128 bit memory. the 9700pro is using 256. therefore it might give the fx a bottleneck because of that. if i remember right nvidia said they were using ddrII ram for it. i don't know if this will help performance if they don't boost it up to 256. i'm waiting to see cause i'm due for a new video card. so if the FX is faster at the time i'll buy it. but ATI is also makeing a revision of the 9700pro with ddrII and that might hold off the FX for a while. but YES MATROX, MAKE A GOOD GAMEING CARD!!!!. 3 parties would make the prices plumet. then i wouldn't have to factor in price.happy gameing!

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

its all crap look at how much cards have gone up in price... i mean 600 bucks for a brand new card give me a fuken break cards should be around 300 MAX i can buy a whole fuken computer for 500 bucks!!!!! and no its not top of the line but its not bad

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

READ THIS:The NV31 is much like the GeForce4MX cardsThe NV31 will have a core speed on par with the Geforce4 Ti4600 rather than the new NV30 speed.Also, unlike the shitty MX cards, this one will support all the new technologies of the Geforce FX.This NV31 is a BUDGET card!Simply NV31=NV29+NV30!I am going to buy this for ~$150-$200 instead of the Geforce FX for $500!A Great Deal I Say!!!

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

heh heh heh HA HA HA. The top of the range geforce FX will undoubtedly be one hell of a lot faster than the 9700pro. what took 2 gigs of ram a 4.1ghz p4 and an overclocked 9700pro to get in 3dmark will take juat a 2700+ and 512 mb to reach all those who think that the 9700pro can even come close to the top of the geforceFX. But anyway huge speed aside. If the same engineers that screwed us over with the voodoo cards are making this beauty then we might have a few problems unless nvidia really get their act together. And about the price just remember prices go up and up and up and up but the competition from ATI and matrox will bring it down far more than you could ever imagine

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

Well, people are making predictions based on the figures released, and personally I think it almost a given that the FX WILL BE FASTER THAN the 9700pro, but not significantly. And, do you think MG was trying to give a a hint by repeatedly highlighting "THE UNSUSPECTING PUPBLIC" ?

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

Actually techboy_3 and Wrenis, there are some cards out there that are competeing and maybe even exceeding what ati and nvidia are up to. Hercules for example is taking what ati makes and putting proper safeguards as well as better design so while the latest card might be unstable, the hercules version will be stable and probably will be much better than anything ati can come up with. Jaton also does the same thing with nvidia cards and in fact i bet that nvidia has allready released the specs to jaton so they can develop a similar card with the same power but also safer and even cheaper. The reason you dont see these two often in stores is because these companies prefer online sales which dont require kissing company asses like ati and nvidia kiss bestbuy and circuit city's ass. There are also other companies that are making new cards but they are specialising them for certain things like video editing. The only reason that most sites dont know about these is because most reviewers dont like to spend the extra time looking for other card releases. You would be surprised what is on the market these days. :)

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

DRDEATH first of all lets talk logically here. Do you honestly believe that nvidia will bring out a card that is slower and more expensive than the 9700pro? And second of all nvidia have talked about the card getting around 22000 3dmarks on a fast system. The 9700pro got 22000 on an unbelievably overclocked cutting edge system that the average person doesn't have. And the 9700 pro was overclocked on that system. O.K i admit i said the system with a 9700pro had 2gigs of ram but i was wrong and i'm sorry but just go to futuremark.com and check out what it took to get 22000 3dmarks with a 9700pro. Oh and by the way all the infoo i get for benchmarking scores may be horribly wrong but i only get them from reliable sources such as megagames or nvidia

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

TEHGARBGEMAN, it is no doubt the FX will be faster then the 9700PRO. And it should be. It's a next generation G.P.U. However, 3dmarks is not a true test of a cards might. Real in game bench marks are and i think you can agree with that. What the real issue here is, wether or not the FX G.P.U. will surpass the 9700PRO the same way the 9700PRO did to the 4600ti. And the 9700pro beat that card very impressively. Doubling scores across the board. Some tests, tripling it. I say this because will consumers buy the new Nvidia card at $400-$500 bucks only to be marginally faster then the 9700pro? because if the FX card is only 25-30% faster i for one would not spend that extra cash on that card when the speed is just marginal above the 9700pro. This is speculation of course as we have to see the real game tests. And one more point. With the R350 and Rv350 taping out running DD2 memory, and the revised 9700pro running the same DDR2 memory, the memory advantage the FX chip has will be gone when these cards are released. Insiders expect those cards to be released around the same time as the FX chip. And the fact that the FX chip is only running on a 128bit memory interface compared to the 9700PRO and the R350'S 256bit memory interface running the same DDR2 memory at the same clock speed. That band-width advantage the FX chip had is also gone. So the race becomes tighter. We will only see when the FX chip is finally mass released to the public (FEB.) The earliest. Then they can compare.

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

hope the fx will be faster then the 9700 but ati is too much in the lead right now but when nvidia made the gefore 3 it was i big thing for 3dfx i hope the same whit the nv30DRDEATHat 23:14 3/1/2003TEHGARBGEMAN, it is no doubt the FX will be faster then the 9700PRO. And it should be. It's a next generation G.P.U. However, 3dmarks is not a true test of a cards might. Real in game bench marks are and i think you can agree with that. What the real issue here is, wether or not the FX G.P.U. will surpass the 9700PRO the same way the 9700PRO did to the 4600ti. And the 9700pro beat that card very impressively. Doubling scores across the board. Some tests, tripling it. I say this because will consumers buy the new Nvidia card at $400-$500 bucks only to be marginally faster then the 9700pro? because if the FX card is only 25-30% faster i for one would not spend that extra cash on that card when the speed is just marginal above the 9700pro. This is speculation of course as we have to see the real game tests. And one more point. With the R350 and Rv350 taping out running DD2 memory, and the revised 9700pro running the same DDR2 memory, the memory advantage the FX chip has will be gone when these cards are released. Insiders expect those cards to be released around the same time as the FX chip. And the fact that the FX chip is only running on a 128bit memory interface compared to the 9700PRO and the R350'S 256bit memory interface running the same DDR2 memory at the same clock speed. That band-width advantage the FX chip had is also gone. So the race becomes tighter. We will only see when the FX chip is finally mass released to the public (FEB.) The earliest. Then they can compare.Anonymousat 20:7 3/1/2003wow i cant believe itthis is the first hardware news article in over a month - WHATS GOING ON!!??TEHGARBAGEMANat 1:51 3/1/2003DRDEATH first of all lets talk logically here. Do you honestly believe that nvidia will bring out a card that is s

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

Robert: You are a retard.DRDEATH: How can you denouce 3dmark tests in one breath and state that real-game benchmarks are what count, then in the next breath bring out the same old "9700 is double or triple the speed of the ti4600" ...and the only tests that the 9700 outperformed the ti4600 that much were out-of-game tests specifically targeting a function of the card (i.e. bandwidth)???????????

CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

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CeBit to Host New ATI nVidia Toys

"EVEN THOUGH HOLLYWOOD hates it, DivX has becomes the number one codec for compressing the hell out DVDs, making it suitable for CDs that you don't need to wait for, forever.If you have a broadband connection. DivX has been downloaded more than 75 million times.On average, DivX can compress 5GB of data to between 700MB or 1400MB == depending what quality you want. ATI has now made a wise chess move and signed a partnership with the owner of the DivX patents, enabling users to increase playback speed and quality.ATI has already announced its full streaming marchitecture for all 9x00 Radeons and Microsoft DirectX 9 as well, and the DivX codec can clearly help too.ATI claims that there will be significant video performance increase of up to 50 per cent using post processing, and it will reduce CPU usage while decoding DivX video.ATI users will get one thing for free, but we're unsure if it's going to be an ATI driver update or a DivX update. Or both. But, whichever, it's clearly going to help us on the streaming, screaming media front"

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