Celeron's are here to Stay

Intel introduced two new Celerons to their range, in a move which, surprisingly, establishes the company as a decent option for economy systems. This new push to the Celeron brand raises some questions about Intel's plans for the future of the processor, especially when the next generation Prescott is released.

The new Celeron's will run at 2.60 and 2.50 GHz. The new Celeron's will be based on Intel's 0.13-micron process technology and will utilize 478-pin packaging and feature a 400 MHz system bus.

In 1,000-unit quantities, the Intel Celeron processor at 2.60 GHz is priced at USD 103; the 2.50 GHz is priced at USD 89.

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Celeron's are here to Stay

f**k u all I got an AMD 3000 and it runs good. I also have an ATI 9800 pro 256. I live in Australia.All of u people compare CPU brand names when it comes down to it. It’s just a brand name they all have their Pros and Cons. Amd have lower FSB and MHz and it runs hotter. Intel has high FSB and MHz and the run cooler. But which one is better. It’s up to the user. My brother had an Intel P4 3.06 and a NVIDIA 5900 ultra and they both run relatively the same. Amd cost less, Intel cost more. They are the same. The war on AMD and Intel will never end just like the war on ATI and NVIDIA.SO STOP UR COMPLAINING AND BE GRATEFULL FOR WHAT U GOT.

Celeron's are here to Stay

hmm, i like both amd and intel. i was on a budget and that made AMD my choice. if i had more money i would have gotten INTEL. if i was an office user, i would get celeron or duron. there is my 2 cents.

Celeron's are here to Stay

If u have a problem sort it out wiht your-self dont take it out on the damm computer..I have been posting responces for years. SO f**k OFF plz :)If not come around and i will give each and everyone a tissue. Because everyone has an issue.Anymore complaints send me an e-mail to idontgiveaf_uck@hotmail.comSo what are u going to do? Its all up to you, after all you can all wipe your own asses.

Celeron's are here to Stay

The Reason AMD Give there prcessors stupid pig f**king name is so they can look all big and tough, and to treak the general idoit, alot in this forum , into buying them long live intel petuims, celeron go suck a sloppy dogs d**k

Celeron's are here to Stay

good site, i think that is the end of the Athlon Xp, it's technology has about reached its limit, i think calling it Xp 3200+ was a mistake by AMD. Saying that the 3200+ kept up quite well with some P4 processors, considering it does run 1 GHZ slower and has a front side bus 400mhz slower.Still dont mean they can say it run's faster than it actually can though.

Celeron's are here to Stay

yo geekman, ya the PR rating is misunderstood and also THE ATHLON CORE has been used for 4 years NOW lol so its old. BUT if you look @ the "real life" performance and gaming benchmarks, The barton 3200+ is only slower by 10-15% in most tests and beats intels 3.0c in some benches so it balances out. You just cant compare apples to oranges and even if AMD was the same clock speed, it would beat intel buy a large margin if you could afford phase-change cooling that is :-) and also read some older posts in this thread its true :-) . Intel is good for performance now 800FSB good clock speed in these last couple of months until AMD64 will be the competitor of p4 and also "p5" but for value and performance ratio its AMD. Celeron should be off lol an AMD 2500+(1.8ghz) or a 2.4c can beat it badly and costs just a couple of dollars more.

Celeron's are here to Stay

Wow...so are all of you 13 year olds...or perhapes you are 36 yr olds who are still living in your parents basements dressed as Batman calling your garbage ridden room "THE BATCAVE" calling your mother Alfred and haveing her bring you your next can of Jolt...A.) Grow Up.B.) A monkey can Slander and Slam, and so can you.C.) As to the actual topic...the Cellerons are perhapes the best bang for the buck. Just last week my 2.4 (400 MHz Bus, 128-KB L2, and the 512K Northbridge core). I was this ( ) close to buying an AMD 3000+, except...WAIT! This was a hellova lot cheaper! Wait, theres more...After running it up against a buddies of mine 3000+ (Both machines with 2 512 sticks of 133 SDRam) kicked the crap out of it. The 3000+ is suppost to be the comparison to the Higher end Cellerons, so I have been told.I've used all sorts of processors...I even have an old Citrix laying around the house somewhere...I have used Celerons in my personal machine everytime I have build a new one. First was a 333Mhz SEC. Than a 1.0GHz, and now a 2.4. I have NEVER had a performance issue, NEVER had a heating issue, NEVER had a hardware problem relating to the processor. Yet I know FOUR individual AMD users who have FRIED there processors because they put a heat sink on wrong...or farked up the copper spacer. AMD runs too damn hot. Intel can get the same performance, and it runs with less heat output...all the output of heat (going back to High School Physics 2 months ago) takes energy away, which could be used to boost the proc speeds by AMD, but they are loosing too much heat.Eh...enough of my soapbox. All I know is I will always be a fan of the Cellys. They are cheap, and if you dont need all the cache, etc. than they make perfect chips. I game alot, never have a problem.In the end, different people require different procs...so its all up to personal choice.

Celeron's are here to Stay

Everyone whos saying AMD runs hotter than Intel needs to get up to date on their info. And this comment: "Yet I know FOUR individual AMD users who have FRIED there processors because they put a heat sink on wrong...or farked up the copper spacer. AMD runs too damn hot. "Your friends did not "fry" their processors, they put the heatsink on backwards and cracked their dies. That is one problem with the AMD but in all fairness, if they can't figure out which direction to put a heatsink on they have no business building their own comp-uter. Not only does the AMD processor come with instructions on how to put the HSF on, there is a recess on the bottom of the HSF that lines up perfectly with the raised lip on the socket.AMDs "Heat issue" ended with the thoroughbred core. No they haven't been using the same Core, yes they have been using the same socket. Celerons are decent processors for the money if you are an Intl fan. But AMD does still give you way more for your money. And all of the people that said a celeron outperforms an XP processor, I'm not sure what you did to test the two side by side, but I can assure you that if you used the same components, excluding the mobo, and had both computers with a fresh install, then the AMD would stomp all over the celeron. At the store I work at a Celeron 2.0 Ghz costs 72.90 and XP 2000 costs 64.90. There is no question which processor i would buy. Right now I have an XP 2400 (2000 Mhz) clocked at 2200 Mhz and the temperature never rises above 100F. Heat is no longer an issue with AMD processors, but stupidity of putting heatsinks on backwards still is.

Celeron's are here to Stay

The P4 3.0 canterwood chipset is faster then AMD's xp3200 in almost all tests. And something that is shocking. The 3.0 ghz chip is cheaper then AMD's flagship right now and is faster. If you want high end, right now Intel is the place to go as the 3.0gig chip is cheaper and faster. Even the 2.8gig chip using the Canterwood chipset is as fast and sometimes faster in some cases then the 3200xp...P4-2.8CGHz/800 Sock 478 Northwood (Retail)$268-$2Nutrend888-482-6678Athlon MP 2800+ (2.133GHz)$289-$6Monarch800-611-0875(the Canterwood Chipset 2.8 P4 BEATS OUT THE XP2800P4-3.0CGHz/800 Sock 478 Northwood (OEM)$397-$2Newegg800-390-1119P4-3.0CGHz/800 Sock 478 Northwood (Retail)$399-$3Googlegear510-739-1890Athlon XP 3200+ (2.2GHz/400)$442$0Googlegear877-228-6958AMD needs to release the Hammer series and fast. The Barton core is too old and too expensive now for the slower performance then Intel's offerings right now. Amd use to hold the Price/Performance area. Not anymore

Celeron's are here to Stay

Celeron is da best bang for the buck: i got my celeron 2.0GHz for about $120 canadian, couple of months ago, VERY OVERCLOCKEBLE. my motherboard can only use 400fsb or 533, no others, so i ran it at 533mhz with the standard fan and heatsink, and it ran at about 40-42 degrees C. Its good for gaming, and great for normal office and home use apps like microsoft office, and explorer, and video editing too. P.S. celeron is great for DooM3 Alpha, runs as fast as a p4 with same rating, since the alpha aint well optimized anyway. celeron rulz for low cost, even though i like pentium4 better, but its pretty expensive.

Celeron's are here to Stay

Celrons, DO NOT RUN THE SAME AS A P4 WITH THE SAME RATING. They do not do the same calculations as the P4 when rendering Polygons and other mathematical intense functions. The chips are still being held back with only 128KB of L2 cache and a 400MHz front side bus. With the Pentium 4 running off the 800MHz system bus, the performance disparity between Intel's high- and low-end chips is about grow larger. And it has. Celrons are great for Business Apps and basic PC usage. Not Gaming and other intense applications. You are better off buying a AMD xp2000 chip for the same or less that gives you miles performance above the Celeron. AMD in the low range price market offer better bang for the buck then the Celerons. Celerons are for fools that do not know any better and will waste their money looking at the ghz rating. It's not the same. Not by a long shot.

Celeron's are here to Stay

It doesn't matter how gay you think celeron is, and how great AMD is cause they are GOD!!! Intel would not be making them, if they were not selling them. Duhh! It doesn't even take a 5 year old to figure it out!

Celeron's are here to Stay

Hey if you have a celeron ditch it they are slow and don't perform well they lock upamd is good intel is just a spoofy over addvertising gimici've got a amd k6 and it's slow by todays standars but it still surprises me and i got a 2ghz athlon XP and its the best investment i've made

Celeron's are here to Stay

yeah, f**k teh celeron.If you want a budget CPU, get an AMD. They are barely dearer and there performance is MUCH greater. THey atleast perform at what there Mhz/PR is, a celeron may be clocked at 2.6Ghz, but its probably slower than a P4 2Ghz/Athlon XP2000.

Celeron's are here to Stay

Christ, an AMD XP2600 here in Australia is $190 from the first site i viewed.The Celeron 2.6Ghz will work out to be over $200 when it comes out here, being that our prices, are nearly double that of the US. I dont see how any budget PC would benefit from one fo these, more than an AMD chip.....

Celeron's are here to Stay

I think it's stupid for Intel to carry on using the dated celeron architecture. So what if the mhz rating is 2.6 ghz it performs like a 1.8ghz p4 of amd chip. Now the pIII that was what they should have carried on...

Celeron's are here to Stay

ok... first of all, if you buy from radio shack of course you'll pay double... 2 to make us wanna buy the damn things shouldn't they at least run at 800mhz??? i'd by one at least to justify buying the proper mobo for the p4 chip i really want but can't afford..

Celeron's are here to Stay

Celeron was good is the past : Remember Celeron 300a :) a baby Oc ! you was able to oc 50-60%Now, you will remember Athlon 1700+ Juih DLT3C :) another baby Oc :) You are able to oc 50-75%.Air : 50%water,etc : 60-75%

Celeron's are here to Stay

You are all Gay. AMD suck so much ass. They run hotter than even a Cyrix Processor. AMD = Gay. I have a 2.0 ghz celeron and it out performs a friends AMD that is "supposed" to run at the same speed (2000). And My case is the sh*ttiest case ever also because it causes everything to overheat because its so small. AMD = Gay yet again. Intel will always rule supreme. Check the benchmarks at tomshardware.com.

Celeron's are here to Stay

Dude, an AMD 2000+ doesnt run at 2GHz, it runs at 1.8, i think. the number that AMD uses on their chipsets DO NOT represent their speed in MHz (yeah, I know thats stupid, but thats just how it is). AMDs arent too bad, but I like Northwoods and Canterwoods better (The P4 chips). AMD will NEVER beat an Intel running @ 3GHz/800MHz FSB, even with their new 64 bit boards.

Celeron's are here to Stay

>>>You are all Gay. AMD suck so much ass. They run hotter than even a Cyrix Processor. AMD = Gay. I have a 2.0 ghz celeron and it out performs a friends AMD that is "supposed" to run at the same speed (2000). And My case is the sh*ttiest case ever also because it causes everything to overheat because its so small. AMD = Gay yet again. Intel will always rule supreme. Check the benchmarks at tomshardware.com.<<<Yeah Good luck with that bud. A f**ken AMD Chip is half the price of a Pentium 4. I bought my P4 2.4Ghz for $400AUS, now 5months later, there like $340, and an AMD XP2400 is only $160.... thats less than half the price. And they are jsut as fast.And for who said convert to pounds, f**k pounds. THe standard rate is US$, and there roughly double that of $AUS.

Celeron's are here to Stay

>>>Dude, an AMD 2000+ doesnt run at 2GHz, it runs at 1.8, i think. the number that AMD uses on their chipsets DO NOT represent their speed in MHz (yeah, I know thats stupid, but thats just how it is). AMDs arent too bad, but I like Northwoods and Canterwoods better (The P4 chips). AMD will NEVER beat an Intel running @ 3GHz/800MHz FSB, even with their new 64 bit boards. <<<Alright dude, just because the Mhz are lower, does not mean the speed is slower. Sure, 800mhz bus is nice, but the new Opterons shit on them... mayeb not for nowaday technology, but they ARE faster, when a program includes optimisations for them.And compare an AMD to Intel at same Mhz.... AMD is the clear winner by far. There 1.66Ghz (XP2000) is the same speeds as a P4 2Ghz, you cant say it isnt, otherwise, you havent used both, my parents is running an XP2000, and my 2.4Ghz used to be a 2Ghz.... they where of similar speeds. It was faster here, and mine was there....

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