The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

nVidia have officially assigned a name to their newest and speed crown contender chip, the NV35. Speculation as to the name varied from the feasible to the utterly ridiculous. Geforce FX 2 was a popular choice as was the strangely mathematical Geforce FX 11600 (2x 5800).
The real name of the chip, at least until nVidia change their minds again, will be the Geforce FX 5900 Ultra. Initially nVidia had planned to use Geforce FX 6800 and in a single day announced and withdrew the name, eventually settling for the 5900 number.

The official launch of the card will take place on the 14th of May in Los Angeles, timed to perfection with E3 which will be also taking place at that time.

Rumours concerning the cards performance suggest that, obviously, it will be faster than the FX 5800 Ultra with nVidia claiming it will be twice as fast its predecessor and will also, outperform ATI's Radeon 9800 PRO even if only just.

No one is more eager to get their hands on nVidia's new baby than ATI who most probably already have their plans set for their next chip.

Expect the first benchmarks on the new chip to appear right after May 14th, since nVidia already have distributed samples to some members of the press.

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The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Actually the ATI's drivers are even better and more finely tuned than nvidia's offerings of their 40.x series lately.It is funny to see nvidia try to compete with ATI. They haven't been forced to compete with a company sence 3dFX. Looks like they have forgotten what its like to be behind the 8ball for some time.I say let the f**kers squirm. Maybe now prices will drop to below what you spend for a full blown computer.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

oh, and Dr. Death.. I usually agree with what you say cause its logical and makes sence.But you really need to get out more man.. you post on this site way to much and way to long of posts.I hate to tell you this, but no one who really has a life is going to read all that shit, nor give really one way or another as to what your opinion is.Go get laid or something...get out more

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Anonymous check out the reviews against the 4600ti, 4800ti vs. the 9700pro. The 9700pro wins all bench catagories maybe except maybe one. In some cases the 9700pro triples bench scores on some tests over the 4600ti. Doubling most across the board. As for the 4800ti(which is the 4600ti with agpx8) it beats it in almost every test. When quality settings are enabled, the 4600ti,4800ti does not stand a chance. Go to [url removed] They will show you the results with a 9700pro vs. the 4600ti and the 4800ti.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

I have a really good feeling about this from Nvidia. I bet you ANYTHING that once IT beats the RADEON 9800 PRO by a acceptable margiN Everyone is going to switch sides. It's kinda like watching the superbowl and then suddenly Some other team wins that was not popular. BUT SUDDENLY Everyone Is wearing some Clothing by the winning Team!

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

No Shit DRDEATH the ti series is a hell of a lot older then the 9700 pro and is outdated tech, what the f**k did you expect you stuiped f**ker. Why not compare a P4 against a AMD thunderbird if your gonna do such out of league comparisons.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Geez its so lame the only thing n-vididiot's can complain about still is ATI's drivers which you don't squat about, why don't you post something you actually know about.Last year you guys were saying you could'nt wait for the NV30 chip to come out now it comes out and has been a flop for n=vidia now its oh year i can't wait for the NV35 to come out its gonna kick ATI's ass,ha ha you guys are halarious,how many more kicks at the can do you need to finally get something from n-vidia that wipes the floor with 9700 or 9800 im sure eventualy they get it right,but again ATI will have their new card to follow and be on top again.Hey if you like n-vidia buy it who gives a crap,but if your gonna talk shit about ATI cause it the top performing card today get over it.My 8500 radeon still rocks and my next card will be the 9500 pro unless the 9700 comes down a bit more.I you want to see some benchmarks on the top cards for yourself go over to futuremark.com .Love always dano

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

As for the individual that does not want to post a name, i compared the 4600ti series of cards to the 9700pro because for one, someone said the 4800ti has almost the same in performance as the 9700pro. Which it does not. Second. Because obviously you know jack squat about G.P.U's and timelines, the 9700pro WAS the card to compete with the 4600ti or the gforce4 series of cards you moron.And do tell me the difference between the AMD Thunderbird chip and a P4 chip. Are we talking the Willamatte core or the Northwood core? As they are in the same league. 1st generation p4 chips are in the same league as the p4 chip moron.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Nvidia may be lagging behind ATI at the moment but they made a nice marketing tactic with the GeForce FX 5200 series. For $99 you get all the features of directX 9 at a consumer price, as well as consumer performance. Where as ATI you must pay more than $300 dollars for DirectX 9 features. Sounds like a smart move for Nvidia

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

hey Drdeath. real quick. a couple of days a go you told me i would trade my 4600 for a 9700 pro or non pro anyday of the week if I tried it. well just so happens I did. my roommate just got a 2.8 p4, 512 333mhz ram, and a 9700 non pro. We tried two games so far. c&c generals runs a bit faster on his computer with more cpu players. big suprise I have a xp 1533 he has p4 2.8. the second game we tried was unreal II. Now this was interesting. At the same high settings his card chugged a few times and mine never slowed a bit. Not an indepth test but i'll tell ya there is no way I would trade my 4600 and $250 for that decent competitor. I don't think I would even trade my 4600 straight across. I like the picture quality and look of nvidia cards over ATI and my card seemd to perform a slight bit better on a slower computer with slower CPU and ram. Interesting

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

hey froboy have you seen the benchmarks for the 5600 or 5200. terrible to say the least.Unreal 2003 1024x7685200=60fps5600=101ti 4200=1029000pro=49my card the ti4600=1249500128mb=729500pro=109just by the unreal test. which is a good one. nvidia owns lower end market by quite a bit. the 5200 was almost as fast as the 9500 64mb. I still think its funny that the ti4200 is faster than the 5600, 9500 128mb, and almost as fast as the $219 9500pro.The 5200 isn't a great dx8 card but it 3dmark03 scores were good almost up with the ti4800.The 5600 benched almost at 3000 which is good but the 9500pro is a better midlevel card.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

>>>"Now the Ti4800se has alot more features than any of those 9500pro's did.">>As for the GFX it is not cheaper then the 9700pro. Unless you are saying the non ultra 5800. And that card does not even compete with the 9700pro.<<<Ummm not true. In australia, the cheaper GF FX5800ultra, is cheaper than the dearest 9700pro. The cheapest 9700pro is only $50 cehaper than the 5800ultra.All my info is from the store i purchase all my PC parts through.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

>>>As for the GFX it is not cheaper then the 9700pro. Unless you are saying the non ultra 5800. And that card does not even compete with the 9700pro.<<<Ummm not true. In australia, the cheaper GF FX5800ultra, is cheaper than the dearest 9700pro. The cheapest 9700pro is only $50 cehaper than the 5800ultra.All my info is from the store i purchase all my PC parts through.Wrong quote SOZ

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

>>>"Now the Ti4800se has alot more features than any of those 9500pro's did.">>As for the GFX it is not cheaper then the 9700pro. Unless you are saying the non ultra 5800. And that card does not even compete with the 9700pro.<<<Those features where My VIVO, the software bundle etc. I didnt mean anything that gave it a real edge, just items that suited my needs.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

>>>Anonymous check out the reviews against the 4600ti, 4800ti vs. the 9700pro. The 9700pro wins all bench catagories maybe except maybe one. In some cases the 9700pro triples bench scores on some tests over the 4600ti. Doubling most across the board. As for the 4800ti(which is the 4600ti with agpx8) it beats it in almost every test. When quality settings are enabled, the 4600ti,4800ti does not stand a chance. Go to [url removed] They will show you the results with a 9700pro vs. the 4600ti and the 4800ti. <<<Dude, theres no need to feel so proud about that LOL..... they are very old card there being compared to. The 9700pro being better than the GF FX is something big, buts its a given it beats the others. I dont know what test the GF4 beats the 9700pro in, but its probably minor. Even though ti4800 is only and AGP 8x Ti4600, and the 4800se is an AGP 8x Ti4400, they are capable of being faster (and their clocked higher)

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

>>>the 9700pro WAS the card to compete with the 4600ti or the gforce4 series of cards you moron.<<<Correction, it was never intended to compete with them.... it was intended to beat them hands down, which it did. If anything, the 9500pro is there competitor. ANd IMO, in my system (yes, i have tested them) the 9500 performed very similar to my Ti4800se and my ti4800se was cheaper, with better bundle. WHile the 9500pro did win in alot of tests, so did the Ti4800 (wins where minimal at most) and while the AA and AF may be better on the 9500pro, that is of no concern. I know alot of people would of gone the other way, but im happy with my choice =)

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

"ti4200 is faster than the 5600, 9500 128mb, and almost as fast as the $219 9500pro."IN WHAT TEST? The 4200ti is almost as fast as the 9500pro without quality settings. (The 9500pro was the card to enter the fray against the 4200ti.) Once you put those on, it's a different bal game all together. The 4200ti cannot keep up. It does not have the pipelines to keep pace."I like the picture quality and look of nvidia cards over ATI and my card seemd to perform a slight bit better on a slower computer with slower CPU and ram."You know this is because that is where your system is bottle necking? (-: They even tell you once you purchase a high-end G.P.U wether it be a 9700pro or 5800 Ultra, to see the benefits you need a faster C.P.U.Hmmmm, iam running Unreal 2 at 1280 resolution and above with Fsaa+Ansioscopic filtering on sampled."The results show the GeForce4 at a dramatic disadvantage. At a resolution of 1600x1200, the Radeon 9700 is almost three times faster."" Thanks to its irregular sampling pattern and gamma correction, the Radeon 9700's 6X AA mode looks at least as good as Matrox's 16X FAA to my eye—and much better than a GeForce4 Ti.""The Radeon 9700 Pro's antialiasing performance is very impressive. The 9700 has the best combination of edge antialiasing quality, compatibility, and performance of any consumer graphics chip"The 9700pro. 9800pro are cards for people that want to play games with max eye candy on, and that is where these cards shine and look better in image quality then Nvidia cards.....

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

"Of course all the eye candy in the world is worthless without frame rate and as you can see from our benchmarks the ATi Radeon 9700 Pro can deliver the features that are included. No, you don't have to turn one off to get the other. No, you don't have to turn the resolution down. The feeling I get is that 1280x1024 with 4XAA and 16XAF turned on is the sweet spot for this card. Can you go 1600x1200 with the same features utilize? Yes you can, but then again I feel cheated unless I am getting a frame rate of less 120. If you do nothing but DEATHMATCH online, or only play at LOW REZ, this card is not for you. If you are one of those folks that wants to be immersed in a more realistic virtual gaming world, the ATi Radeon 9700 Pro has your name on it"Like i have said before, if you like to play your games in lower resolutions without quality settings( not at 1280X1064 or 1600x1200 with fsaa+AA enabled) on then it makes no sense to purchase a next generation card. A 4600ti, 4200ti, 8500 will do fine. It's a matter of choice. But try playing those games at max settings with those features on displayed on a monitor 19 inch or over...MAJOR DIFFERENCE. BIG TIME. That's where the g4's show their age in a big way. That's why i switched to the 9700pro. That was my point.And a 9700pro that is $50 cheaper or more then the 5800Ultra gives you wonder why anyone would buy the 5800Ultra? Loud. Extra PCI slot. Slower when quality settings are enabled. Better image quality and Fsaa and AA implementation. A 5800Ultra is not a wise choice. The NV35 when it comes out looks to kick ass. (:

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

And i don't call this bickering. This is good discussion.SSCREW, and twitch and the occassional Anonymous seem to know there stuff and discuss things without cussing and swearing. A pleasant change from other fools on this forum.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

In my opinion both company has their up and down and has equally great product. I don't see why some people are so fanatic over one company. Comments like : Nvidia Rules or Nvidiot are totally rediculous and has no point. I think some of you are brainwash by good publicity from both company. The marketing commity from both company must be verry proud of themself.FarewellGood competition rules :)Frederick Richard

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

jesus DRDEATH. first read carefully before writing. the TI4200 out performed the 5600, 9500 128mb, and close to the 9500pro in the UNREAL 2003 TEST, GURU3D.COM. STOP ACUSSING BEFORE YOU READ. I'm not saying the TI4200 is a better card I just thought it was funny it won.Now I was talking about the NON-PRO 9700. talk as much about the 9700 pro as you want but I already know what it can do and what it can't. I was sceptical about the 9700 NON-PRO.I know you like playing games at 1600x1200 with shit loads of FSAA and features. I like to play games at 1024x768 because I only have a 17 inch and I love all the features. Soon my card will go the way of past Gforce cards. Don't feel dafe with your card because in november you will be playing at 800x600 with medium effects. DX9 will make you're precious 9700 pro crawl. I've said it before and will say it again the 9700pro is a great DX8.1 card but it is no true DX9 card like ATI claims. So have funs in a few months DRDEATH.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

twitch, if my 9700pro will crawl in directx9 games, what do you think the 4600ti or the 4200ti will do...fall asleep and die? LOL. All directx9 games will require larger bandwidth and core clock and memory clcok speeds to run decent and smooth. With a 128bit memory interface the Nvidia cards have, if your theory is correct, those cards won't be playable at all.As for the 9700 non-pro. Its the same identical card as the 9700pro minus the clock speed. That's the only difference. And the price of course. This is why that card is a steal if you can find one. It has the same core chip. Same pixel and vertex pipelines. Same 256bit memory interface. Just slower clcok speed which you can over-clock to 9700pro levels easy.And i do agree with you that the current line of next generation cards will have a tough time displaying all the eye candy effects directx9 has to offer at 60 frames and above. You will not see that sort of performance until the R400 or the NV40 hits the shelves before years end.But for now, a directx9 compliant high-end card will be good to have over the older ones when those games do come out. Even if the games play at 800x600 with medium effects on, thats a hell of alot better then 640x480 with no effects on. Something older cards if your theory is correct will suffer from........

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Right here we go again! A faster card which wil run your games 'better'. This is a sinple case of a card performing better with all the fsaa stuff on at full and all the cool stuff like that u dont notice! I usually play at 1024*748 and have never used fsaa! If you aint gonna use that stuff then a Radeon 9700 pro wil last a long long time. Im considerin buying one in august when I upgrade as They are down to about £230 thru online stores. If they come under £200 by august I'll buy one as they are damn fast if u dont care about all the added extras!Basically i dont care about the new FX!

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Video cards matter when your not playing at the lame ass resolution most of you are (1240X748). Just try playing most of the new releases with everything maxed out at a 1600X1200 resolution. They video card can make or break the gaming experience when you actually use a resolution that makes the game look awesome.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

Play Unreal 2 at 1600x1200 with fsaa and AA on. Any game for that matter. You will never want to go back to 1024x768 without them settings ever again. Paly Generals at that resolution and settings. WOW. Different animal altogether.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

I have to agree. I have a overclocked 9700pro using Rage3d tweak, running an a Asus nforce2 board and a 3000xp AMD chip. The game looks amazing at that resolution with those effects on. Night and day difference. It makes spending the money on a top end video card worth every penny.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

---Even UT2003 as you can see manages to break 150 FPS with Hi Quality settings at 1024x768x32. Not speeds to be laughed at---.That's why you lamos should get the 9700pro. If it runs like that at that resolution, what the f**k do you think it will run at when you pump it higher.

The Chip Formerly Known as NV35

DRDEATH whats so funny. Of course my ti4600 will die. thats why it pays to read carefully and pay attention. I said my card will go the way of older GF cards. OFF THE MARKET. What i'm saying though is it is about the life expecteny of cards. today cards are getting anounced released almost every day. If you got a 9700 pro in september you where smart, because you'll get a good year and a half out of the card before slow down starts to happen. If you blow $350 now you are dumb, because you'll get less than a year before the card needs to be swapped.Getting the 9800pro now isn't a terrible idea. it will last about a year of competitive gaming. It would be wise though if you have a 9500 or ti to wait for the r400 or nv35 or 40. unless you have lots of money.

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