DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

While nVidia and ATI are preparing for the mother of all Graphics battles, a company that has been there for a while is now trying to change the market landscape. S3, Via's graphics division, have announced details of their upcoming "Delta Chrome" card, formerly known as "Columbia". The features are impressive but what is truly stunning, is the price tag.

The cards, expected in Q2, 2003, will start retailing at, wait for it... USD 90. Yeah but the S3 offering will not be up to their competitors standards, I hear you say, have a look at the features and judge for yourselves:
The chips G.P.U. clock will weigh in at 300MHz+ and 300MHz+ for the memory, which will be plain DDR. Another, the economy, version of the card will have a top speed on 240MHz+, for the graphics engine and 300MHz+ for the memory.
The full and extremely rich feature list is as follows:

Advanced Display Features
Continuing the S3 Graphics tradition of providing advanced reliability, DeltaChrome products weave stability and technology into basic 2D display graphics features.

DirectX 9.0
DeltaChrome is equipped with programmable hardware shaders compatible with Pixel Shader version 2.0+ and Vertex Shader 2.0+. DeltaChrome actually goes beyond the DirectX 9.0 requirements with esoteric features for improved 3D and video quality.

Hi-Def Computing
HDTV is the final word when it comes to high resolution displays available today. Thanks to DeltaChrome's unique, integrated Hi-Def HDTV encoder technology, you can now get the most from HDTV resolution capable displays, televisions and projectors.

Hi-Def HDTV encoding brings the theater home when watching a DVD. Video games played in Hi-Def mode bring characters to life before your eyes, and Hi-Def corporate presentations viewed with an HDTV resolution capable projector are crisper and more professional looking than ever before.

Chromotion Programmable Video Engine
The Chromotion Programmable Video Engine is a radical departure from fixed function video decoding and processing. The Chromotion engine has the flexibility to process MPEG-2/4, Windows Media Video, and other video standards. Fixed function processing such as iDCT is now handled by the programmable Chromotion engine. Post-processing to improve poor source material is an exciting new feature that will enhance video material such as webcasts.

The Chromotion engine's real-time rendering capabilities bring video effect processing to the mainstream. The home video enthusiast can now exercise as much ArtisticLicense as advanced video artists. All can edit and process video with Chromotion quality using familiar effects and filters for professional looking results for any project, whether simple or involved.

V8 Pipeline
The DeltaChrome V8 pipeline is a sophisticated and complex full 8-pixel pipeline. An astounding 2.4 Giga-pixel per second fill rate increases the intensity of the gamer's visual experience and provides heart-pounding 3D graphics speed.

You will be assured of being the last player standing in the emerging mobile gaming trend when your laptop is equipped with DeltaChrome's V8 pipeline.

PicturePerfect
DeltaChrome's PicturePerfect hardware anti-aliasing for full screen and WindowsXP text makes for a consistent, silky smooth-edged image. No more jaggies.

Advanced Deferred Rendering
The completely new Advanced Deferred Rendering technology dramatically increases the efficiency of the 3D engine for maximum performance beyond standard z-culling technology. By maximizing effective bandwidth, Advanced Deferred Rendering does not leave extreme gamers short during peak 3D performance levels.

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DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

This will prob turn out like that card (Trident XP) Trident said would do 80% of a GF3 or a 8500 for cheaper, well it didn't and they were told to stfu from many reviewers as the cards were complete garbage and could barly keep up with budget cards.Quote from Extremetech.com:"Some months back, Trident made much ado about its new DX9-class GPU that would take the mobile computing world by storm. The XP4, a 30-million transistor tile-based architecture with hardware pixel shaders, was supposed to mop up the floor with ATI and nVidia. At least, that's what Trident's overly exuberant marketing spin claimed.But sooner or later, it's time toeither put up or shut up. We tested an engineering sample of Trident's upcoming XP4 GPU, and while the specs were somewhat intriguing, based on our exhaustive tests, it is now time for Trident to just shut-up."Haha ;)

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

VIA is going to get their arse kicked, there is no doubt about it. There is a reason Nvidia and ATi are doing so well, they are at the top of their game and have been for years. For starters, the Radeon 9700Pro already beats this card as far as clock speeds go and I bet this card doesn't have 256-bit architecture (as does the R9700PRO). Stop getting excited you little 12 year olds, you'll just have to ask mummy and daddy really nicely next time you ask them to buy you a new GeforceFX or R350.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

People, people. There is no use in calling yourselves names. Opinions are valued from everyone. We all know that a little competition can't be bad for the market (especially in it's present state). Even though it's almost obvious that this new card will bearly perform up to par, it's good to have other cards infused in the market in order to lesser the "monopoly" that is ATI and nVidia.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Hey, calm down guys. All you fanboys should shut the living *** up. If you guys have the ability to make better cards in your sleep, more power to you. But for the rest of you "other" people, shut up and let them do their thing. Personally, I'd like to put this card in a system I'm building. Hope it comes soon!

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

"Stop getting excited you little 12 year olds, you'll just have to ask mummy and daddy really nicely next time you ask them to buy you a new GeforceFX or R350."Huh? I'm sorry, but I work hard for my money, and this graphics card looks to be a very good combination of price per performance. I think YOU need to get off of your parents nut sack.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

I am not beliening anything I hear till it hits the marke. In my opinion the price/performance ratio will be the same as ati an nvidia. I would like to see more competition in the graphics market but I don't think it will offer anything new. As for me I will keep my Voodoo3 for at least another year... (can't afford to make a full pc upgrade and there isn't any modern game that I like)

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Why do u all care whether or not this card isn't up to scratch straight away. U can't just jump on the band wagon like that, u gotta start again somehwere.I have a p4x400 chipset on my motherboard and i am damn pleased with its overclocking potential and the fact that it even supported ddr400 last august.O yeah i want one

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

The last S3 card I had was sub-par, but it'll be a good option for people who don't need to play at 1600 x 1200 resolution with everything turned up. It'll be good for those on a budget as well. And I agree, competition is good. (Although, to be honest, this won't really compete with the top 2)

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

I think part of the reason now that via is releaseing this is apparently their chief competitor, sis is working on making a motherboard that supports 3 gigaherts! Via instead is trying as of late their hand at integrated stuff as well as now video cards but sadly i think like the xcabre they still will screw up just like sis did though likely they might be first to develope something new since sadly it was sis that created the first 8x agp card to match their latest motherboard series. However the 8x agp cards known as xcabre were made with drivers that not only used a small fraction of the performance but also couldnt even compete with what was already the top standard. I think via will likely do the same since though they may make a decent motherboard, making a very good video card is a whole lot harder. If you dont believe me when i say it doesnt work then just look up the xcabre series.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

w00t go via!!! go s3!!!! its about time via got back into the game. All you 12 year old prolly dont remember the time when the mighty s3 virge was top of graphic cards 4mb and all!!!it rocked now this card comes in w00t w00t even if it is'nt as good as the geforce fx or raedon 9700 blah blah it will bring the prices down on BOTH that should make all you fan boys happy!!!

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

In all truthfullnes, this card is NOT designed to compete with the GFFX and the Radeon 9700 pro. Seriously people, this is only a competition with the budget based cards! This individual card will not make Nvidia or ATI change they're prices on the top cards, but will make them fight for the lower cards. HOPEFULLY, if VIA makes enough money of this series, they will produce more high performance cards. The only hope VIA has to pull this one through is by working directly w/ game designers and computer hardware manufacturers to produce compelling performance options. I back VIA 100% on this venture because having only two vendors in this market are NOT enough! They play this performance-to-price game with each other by uping the specs on each other and "the company with the higher priced card must be the winner" vision seems to persue. The greater percentage of people who buy 3D cards investigate little to none when buying computer upgrades. They just head to best buy, find the most expensive card they see, then come here and bitch about how great the're card is. These high prices are somewhat due to a consumer base that buys for bragging purposes only. It's comparable to designer clothes. People will pay 10 to 20 times what something is worth, just because it costs more, not just because it is better. Also, these companies play off this a step further by confusing consumers by using misleading information. Such as calling a GF4 MX a GF4 in the first place makes most people think they are getting a GF4 for 99 bucks. I see this happen in other people's computer stores. I try to warn people about this, but advertising and cooked companies are too much. Budget cards or actually a good thing for low budget gamers! Most offer enough performance to play modern games, but to make someone believe they are buying something they aren't is completely bad ethics. Computer companies did this for the longest with the budget processers as well. Gateway did this the most, screaming

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Gateway did this the most, screaming that you get pentium performance at 1/3 the price. Consumers need to be higher educated about technology so this doesn't happen as much. This problem gets smaller each day, much to the massive amounts of people getting ripped off each day, people get smarter about purchases. So people, before you make ANY computer purchases, INVESTIGATE first! Go to every benchmark site, computer hardware reviewing site, look through magazines, compare ratings, and also look through forums at times to see what problems other people are having. This will save you thousands of dollars in the long run! As for VIA, lets pray they can put forth a compelling product so that they can put a dent in the price lies and maybe even crack it later!Competition is why we live in an affordable country.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

"EVER SINCE Nvidia announced the GeForce FX 5800 Ultra it's been known that the card's raw specifications didn't pack the punch it needed to blow the Radeon 9700 Pro away. Exactly how the chips would fall between the two, however, was still a mystery, but if the boys at Tecchanel.de know their stuff, the situation looks pretty bad.According to our German neighbors, GeForce FX performance is decidedly two-sided. The card performs well in some SPECviewperf 7.0 tests, besting the 9700 Pro by up to 45% in 3ds Max-01, but drops behind the 9700 Pro by 10 fps in dx-07. In 3DMark 2001 SE the GeForce FX wins again, but only by a few hundred points. NVIDIA wins the basic Q3A tests tecchanel.de runs, but the Radeon blows past it once 4XFSAA is enabled. The two cards run dead even in Unreal Tournament 2003. The rest of the benchmarks follow a similar pattern: The FX wins some, the Radeon wins others, but the margin between the two rarely even approaches 10%.One area where the GeForce FX does blow the 9700 away, however, is power draw. This sucker pulls no less than 75 watts of heat fully functional, almost a full third higher than the Radeon. This translates into a phenomenal amount of heat and explains why the 5800 Ultra carries a small vacuum cleaner around on its back, rather like an overheated snail."

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

"But if none of these three occur, Nvidia is in serious trouble. It's hard to argue the 5800 is all that competitive at its current price, and RV350 is on the way. It looks like ATI's seizing of the graphics card throne was no fluke. Nvidia may be able to claim the performance crown by a hair, but the days of an Nvidia GeForce-release effortlessly sailing by ATI's just-released product (as happened with the original Radeon and Radeon 8500) appear to be long gone."

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

At [url removed] they review the FX chip over the 9700pro. What a waste of money for that card. It is only 10-15% faster in some tests. And when fssa and ansioscopic filtering is put on, the 9700 pro beats it with it's larger memory interface and band-width. The most important bench-mark when someone buys a $500 dollar card. And this card is supposed to be a next generation card? It's using DDR2 ram. Higher clock speeds then the 9700pro, sounds like a airplane jet engine they say and uses major power to run it and a PCI slot to boot. And will cost more then the 9700pro. With only a slight speed increase over the 9700 pro. HMMMM. What a joke Nvdia has created. Too much hype. Not enough performance. And this was the card that was to kill the 9700 pro, the way the 9700pro destroyed the 4600ti. I will wait for the R350, RV350 or even the R400 which is due in July.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Both GeFarce-FX 5800 and Radeon 9700pro will handle Doom III. They will both have more than 30 FPS with all effects turned all the way up. anything you've heard or seen to the contrary have been test on an ALPHA release. It wasn't even intended for public use. It's far from done, and those results mean absolutely nothing!

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

the review they did on the geforceFX was a refernce board, which means it didnt come with enhanced drivers set, none of the games, benchmarks have updates that support it fully, and the noise level is not important on a referance board, when the chipset is released, there will be drivers set 100% compatibly, games and benchmarks will come out with updates, that will work better with it, and the fans will be quieter because unlike ATIL nvidia has thrid party make their boards and come up with their own design. in fact, chances are a lot of third party distro's probably wont even enclude that overhead, heat pipe dual slot unit, since it is costly to produce and annoying. i wouldnt be surprised if they stuck to a more effecint full board heat spread like leadtek does, or some of the ti4800 boards have.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

staticpurge: You're just upset that your favorite company's new card is a piece of junk. They are reviewing the finished version, man. And I doubt they will be letting as many 3rd parties manufacture this one, dude. Many sites have said this one will be different. And Donkey Doo is right here, without the overhead heat pipe it runs too hot. They wouldn't have slapped a hoover to the back of this if it was absolutely necessary. They just had problems and rushed to make it and screwed themselves.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Actually Ati does have 3rd party companies making boards of the 9700Pro. And the 5800 Ultra does indeed need that heat pipe. Just as Donkey Doo said. Unless you want a molten lava PC case sitting in your room. And it just runs too loud for the minimal poerformance gains it gets over the 9700pro. And even when the Drivers are tweaked it better get at least a 30% performance increase or better as the R350 will just be around the corner. And that is not a reference board. That's how that card wil sound. Like a jet plane engine. What card would you buy for $500 smacks. The 5800 Ultra. Or the AIW9700pro which leaves you money left over to go to the movies and a night club with some hot babe.........

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Whoa! Never used any cards made by this company B4, but this one sure sounds good. Too good for its price tag. I've got to get one when it comes out. Anyone know when it'll come out?Yep, this will surely make the other video card companies drop their prices...should be cool.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

Hate to say it but a lot of people laughed at ATI not too long ago for trying to challenge Nvidia.You were wrong then you may be wrong now. There is no excuse for a graphics card to cost $500+I hope this card is as good as t makes out. So they can then go on to produce a better version that still isn't stupidly expensive.The other bonus is they may get this card put into a lot of corporate machines. Those execs love presentations and this card can do that.

DeltaChrome Challenges ATI, nVidia

they are not trying to rival the 9700 pro or the fx, they are just releaseing a decent card for budget gamers, so quit bitching that its trying to take them on when they are noti think this card will sell big, for only $90 its worth giving it a try, im getting, right after i try and scrounge what money i have left over form bills to buy a 9700pro

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