GTA:SA - Modders Strike Back

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posted on: Tue, 07/26/2005 - 05:00

The continuing saga known as Hot Coffee-gate took another unexpected turn as the mod community reacted strongly against the ESRB and U.S. senators that have gone after Rockstar and the community regarding the GTA: San Andreas sexually explicit material.

The entire gaming industry stood accused last week as US senators managed to point the finger at Rockstar and the modding community and claim that they both undermined the entire U.S. game rating system.

Some of the leading modders got together at GTAGarage.com and put together a variety of letters and a press release that were sent out to U.S. senators. The letter sent out to senator Clinton, Mr. Yee and Mr. Thompson states: In recent statements by the ESRB, they have accused the mod community of undermining their ratings by putting sexually explicit material into PC games, namely San Andreas, which was already rated "M". However, if you look into a game by the name of "Singles - Flirt up your Life", it becomes quite clear they are doing a good job of that all by themselves. This "M" rated game features full frontal nudity (and not androgynous "barbies" like The Sims) and characters engaging in interactive sexual scenes.

The letter also goes on to point out that other games are not treated in the same way claiming that: ...for that matter, what of the game "Playboy: The Mansion", which is based on the skin magazine, and is also rated "M"?!

The modding community has reacted and it has done so in style, in an attempt to expose the entire GTA:SA story as a hypocritical exercise aimed at what was considered a soft target and serving many purposes, few of which have anything whatsoever to do with decency.

All we can say is: Good Luck.

To read all the letters sent out by the modders and the press release, follow the download tab above.


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Why do thouse senators or whatever care ? Game's game, play it if u like, dont if u dont but stfu. As for kids, they have consoles anyway

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movie and music. look at hip hop videos, they really should ban those in US ei. If they really worry about children growing up wit bad behavioral, they should allow spanking by parents so they can fix those kids. a little sanking does not heart

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a little sanking does not heart.... wow please dont post here if you cant read/write

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I think that is the first ever first post I have seen that isnt "FIRST POST wOOt 1337 YAL!!!!" Also this is a pile of BS they went after this game for other reasons, the US is such a corrupt place I would not be supprised if these senators are doing this just for publicity or something like that.

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It was TEH HAXORZ!!!1

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Yeah Mott thats exactly what it is ..hillary and others looking for publicity because she is wanting people on her side.Namely the sexually repressed mommies and daddies of america so that they can help further her career and think what a right minded person she is.Hillary has big plans for herself and any bandwagon thing going will be jumped on if it serves her well in the future.I thought this was obvious,it is to me!All politicians are basically bull sh1tters who will say and do anything that will advance their career.But if they mess up they will lie through their teeth.Take hubby bill clinton..."i did not have sexuall relations with that woman"! Maybe hillary should sort her own house out 1st before preaching to the mass about morals!

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How bout the tombraider cheat that lets yo see her goods?

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Is it really good for the videogame industry when you try to divert attention from one game to other? These modders should of thought this through more.

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i heard a guy broke loose and killed a bunch of cops in the precinct. He blamed it on gta or the cops did im not sure who, and someone is suing rockstar for having anti cop gameplay

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Hillary Clinton is a whore!

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i say screw the rating and the US GOV, games are design to play at everyone's age, just because they find that the game is too influencesive and exploited too much of american society, gang war and sexual theme, US GOV is fukin COMMIES!!!! its a game for whatever sake, we pay for it, not the gov, they dunt do jacks**t bout it, F the gov!!! GO ROCKSTAR!!!

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o wow sexually explicit material big woof. They failed to mention the almighty line rockstar put in that game and i quote, "It is a crime to fail to please a woman" hmmm not exactly that but u know what i mean. Bill Clinton should have played this game before he knocked up that other lady.

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I believe they're talking about Hillary, not Bill..

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I hate when they blame games for ppl killing, i mean, maybe it did influence those ppl, but thats cos they r f*cked in the head already!! The average person doesnt go do what a game tells them, millions of us play violent games, and watch violent movies, and lead normal lives. When will they realise that?! And as for this whole sexual content s**t, its friggin animated!! Perhaps the reason it bothers them, is because the sad f*ckers find that kind of thing arousing, whereas the rest of us see it as just a bloody good laugh! Aight, im done ranting, keep making great games rockstar!!

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Right f**king on! Stupid american slags.

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All this is about is political postering. Good luck to Rockstar games. They will need it as politicians will rake thier collective asses over the coals because in doing so they will get votes. That's all this is about. Which political party can spin this into future votes at any government level. This is not just a "Republican" issue. The Democracts under Hilary Clinton took the first shot.....

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fuk US GOV AND THE PARENT COMMUNITIES IN AMERICA< FUK THEM ALL AND FUK THEM HARD!! ROCKSTAR RULE!!!! i'll be playin the sex mod 24/7 so fuk the senatorz!!

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ps: the revolution has come!! kill 'cliton' that pussy

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This whole case was ridiculous to begin with. I hope the ESRB and the senators choke on whatever they drink/eat just like bush =D

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You cant compare a game to another game when you know what your buying. Okay say you buy"playboy the mansion"its pretty obvious you know what your buying, But when a game like gta hides "sex scenes" from the game raters.that is illegal,It would have been better just to show them that to so they could give the game a fair rating or just never have put it into the game at all. Yes we understand killing cops and car jackings arent Appropriate for kids, but when they get there hands on "having sex" that's the type of thing pedaphiles do with little kids.That there is a whole diffrent ball game kids.

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I would also like to take this time to say, HOLD ARUBA ACCOUNTABLE.AND PLEASE ANY AMERICANS PLANING ON VISITING THAT COUNTRY PLEASE CANCLE YOUR RESERVATIONS BEFORE YOU ARE ALSO KILLED BY THAT MURDEROUS OUTLAW ISLAND.

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Posted by Anonymous:"Yes we understand killing cops and car jackings arent Appropriate for kids, but when they get there hands on "having sex" that's the type of thing pedaphiles do with little kids." I don't see your point. Little kids shouldn't be playing the game anyway. If they are, they should be able to understand that the sex is just as wrong as shooting a paramedic in the head and stealing their ambulance. If they aren't, then whats it matter? Somebody had to be responsible for letting them play. And what the hell are you talking about pedophiles for? There's no underage sex in GTA:SA. Sex isn't something that just pedophiles do. Yeah, I'm done now. Awesome job on the letter. It won't do anything, but it's better than sitting around idle waiting for the government to make a decision on what should be allowed or not.

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http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/8599Read that link..... "You cant compare a game to another game when you know what your buying.Okay say you buy"playboy the mansion"its pretty obvious you know what your buying, But when a game like gta hides "sex scenes" from the game raters.that is illegal,It would have been better just to show them that to so they could give the game a fair rating or just never have put it into the game at all." And that is exactly why the FTC is investigating this sorry mess of a dog's breakfast. Of course Rockstar was being misleading in it's rating and intent. This is what sells their games: Violence. Blood. And now...sex. It was only a matter of time before they incorporated sex scenes(hidden or otherwise)You always have to push the envelope. And Rockstar always does. However this time they got caught. They will just get fined by the FTC and that's it. Business as usual.Does sex, violence and bloodshed make a game good? Only for 12 year old adolenscent teens playing the game in the dark in their basement when parents are sleeping. With comments like this: "fuk US GOV AND THE PARENT COMMUNITIES IN AMERICA< FUK THEM ALL AND FUK THEM HARD!! ROCKSTAR RULE!!!! i'll be playin the sex mod 24/7 so fuk the senatorz!!" You can pretty much guess the standard age inwhich this game attracts. Come on RockStar. Make a NEW game that's not just a rehash of the GTA series. Are we not tired of that series yet? God it's so boring.

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KIDS FAILED IN SCHOOL BECAUSE OF VIDEOGAMES. BAN VIDEOGAME FOR LIFE! I HOPE THEY WILL BAN THIS SITE AND ALL OTHER GAME SITE! VIDEOGAME IS THE PRODUCT OF DEVIL TO TEACH KIDS TO KILL THEIR PARENTS, POLICE OFFICER, AND OTHER INNOCENT LIVES. VIDEOGAME TRAIN KIDS TO BE TERRORIST, GANGS, DRUG ADDICTS, THIEFS, & SEXUAL PREDATORS. KIDS DO NOT WANT TO GO TO RELIGIOUS SCHOOL BECAUSE OF VIDEOGAME. I HOPE ALL VIDEOGAME CAN BURN IN HELL!

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Well... jee mr Jesuit Order thanks for spewing your unneeded and idiot redorhic. Im sure it NEVER ocurred to you that their are Non-violent computer game's that teach and nurture. There a game's where you creat things of buety and build massive citys, help people and save life's. Also the only people who have failed in school because of vidio game's are people who are too wrapped up in the "im not going to work" mentality to notice that 24 hours of computer game's is not healthy. By the way shouldent you bann books, becasue they teach things other then the 'good' book? What about telivision, radio, billbords? What about the internet? What about art, music, comic books and WELL we might as well LOCK every one up in small c*mbicals, force feed them bread and give them nothing but the bible to read all day! THat will do wonders for their self essteim and intelict. We might as well start going back wards through the middle age's and then back throught the bronze aga untill you end up as the puddle of promordial ozze that you are! Maby... jsut MABY you should try to understant what the hell your talking about before you start to spout this filth! I may not have ever gone to curch, and iv never read the bible all that much (i got through genisis, though) but i do know this: Life would be much better if we tryed to actually life it like the way that it is NOW not the way that it was two thousand years ago when we lived in a bunch of mud huts and sacrificed people for looking the wrong way on sundays! We should start stoning people to death who disagree with what is "good" and "right"! We should start to kill and murder and rape everyone who dosent agree with our two thousand year old book! We should brainwhash out children, and turnt them into, for lack of better terms, zombies! They can just be sent out in a neat little line to convert our enemys! Better yet we could gather up the jews and n****rs and burn them all! THAT IS A PERFAECTLY SANE, RATIONAL AND RESONABLE THING

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Americans are so gay. They always have to be the odd one out

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GO MOD COMMUNITY!!!

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Europeans are so gay. They always have to suck communist dink!

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Videogames make people fat, lazy and un-productive. I believe it is time the congress ban all forms of videogame from America. America has become the fattest & the laziest people in the world. All this I 0wnz j00 crap makes people illiterate. Ban videogame!

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GTA: SA showed me how to spray paint on walls. booyakasha homie

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lol this is just ridiculous.. I mean.. Hillary saying how good it is to change the rating from M to AO..to protect children from the game.. ain't M high enough already to protect those so called children?! lol anyway welcome to the real life

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LOL for all the ppl saying thay shuld ban games cus it makes kids lazzy well why not ban movies why not tv to i can tell you right now tv has so much s**t on it that i woodent want my kid watching it all that rap and crap tv showswith rape sex and gore you see a video game will look more fake but in movies the gore looks realthe tits are real as well

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yeah me too!I just cant stop spraying everywhere! Moms getting really pissed at me after doing the bathroom wall!Please hillary...SAVE MY SOUL!!BTW americans are soo gay.They are always talking about everyone being gay!Come out of your closets you rageing homos!San Francisco forever! lol

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HAHA...AMERICAN GOVERNMENT ARE SCREWED UP. AMERICAN RUNS ON IDIOTIC GOVERNMENT. THIS IS JUST A GAME DUMBASS.....BUT SOME POLITIAN THINKS THE WORLD IS BETTER PLACE WITHOUT VIDEOGAMES. WELL....GOOD FOR AMERICA. MAYBE THEY SHOULD BAN RAP MUSIC AS WELL.

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Holy crap, the goverment has found a new way to blame its problems on someone/ something else.....idiots...GO COMMUNSIM!!!!

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yeah, f**k YES! Its about damn time that the modders take action! What the government is doing is wrong. They are complaining over nothing! Ive seen R-Rated movies that are more violent and sexual than GTA. I mean, its f**k'in game! Nobody complains about R-Rated movies, or NC17 Movies. WTF

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oh, by the way, its not the whole government, just the Rightwing Morons who are screwing it up.

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hey man it was hiliary who led the charge and she is f**king left wing man

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With all this fuss over an imbedded part of a code drives me up a wall. Everyone knows why he or she goes after video games right? BECAUSE IT COSTS NOTHING! The politicians can make fun of video games every day for the rest of their carrier while taking no real, permanent action and it does not cost them a DIME! They can scowl at values that they do not like all they want without legislation that costs money. Now on to the assertions from JESUIT ORDER: According to the Child Trends Organization: "Dropout rates of young people aged 16 to 24 in the civilian, non-institutionalizedPopulation have gradually declined between 1972 and 2003, from 15 percent to a newLow of 10 percent" http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/1HighSchoolDropout.cfmIsn't it funny how that decrease has been happening despite the dramatic increase in video games and video game marketing between 1972 and 2003? According to the United States Health and Human services report on obesity, childhood obesity is at 14% in children 12 to 16. Adult obesity on the other hand is at 61%. Video games target market, 12 to 16 is less obese than the adults of America are. In addition, I am sure video games teach people how to give abortions too. In addition, have unprotected pre-marital sex. And kill Terry Schiavo. Shut up and move to Greece already. They banned video games. Why don't you live there? To Videogame sucks: Please explain to me how videogames cause L337 speak? Is IM a game? Are colloquialisms the devil? How about abbreviations? Did you ever consider the manuals of video games? Or RPG text? What about the books in the YA section of the library that are about "Halo" to bring kids into sci-fi literature? Damage to the minds of numbskulls will not be a reason to hate video games. P.S. (I wonder what Downing Street memo the press ignored to cover "SEX IN GTA"?)(I put an between my email if you really feel like hollering out)

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GTA sucks anyway. why bother playing it?

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Does this mean we should be suing microsoft becuase with internet explorer that comes standard with windows I can look at porn on the internet... Good on the modders. Its total crap. I mean how many thousand of sex sites are hosted in and run from america. And there worried about sex scenes in the game becuase you can see animated naked bits. Does this strike anyone besides me as odd. I mean if you were a kid/young teenager its not to hard to find porn on the internet. Hell most of the sites have tours that you don't need anything in either cash or id to access. Games always get screwed by raters. Simple as that. Most film clips these days have almost naked female dancing around in them. But they don't do a investigation into them.Hell if you want to see porn animation go download la blue girl. I really do get sick of the buls**t around the GTA series. Plus idiots blamming law breaking on games. I reckon if I ever go on a shooting rampage I'll blame it on Harry Potter cuase there is killing in them. Not that ever would but at least it would be different. Also to the people winging cuase rockstar never make anything new play somebody elses games then. I have enjoyed every GTA and still do. So until the make a bad one (in my oppinion) I will continue to buy them.

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BOOOO Da_Ork YOU SUCK MONKEY BALLS mainly because I SAID SO! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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What America need is teletubies on every channel 24/7.

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i'm so tired of the GTA series!it's the same bulls**t!san andreas was fun at the start due to the fact you could do more stuff, fun for like 1 week but got soooo BORING...it won't make any diff at all if GTA series died.

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Gta is the most unique game and like one of the best if you think its s**t you got somthing wrong with you or maybe you suck thats why you think its bad

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Kill anyone from europe and f**k their moms in the bullet holes :)

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