IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

In a surprise move, both nVidia and IBM announced that the two companies have formed a multi-year strategic alliance under which IBM will manufacture nVidia's next-generation GeForce graphics processor units (GPUs).
According to Michael Hara, Nvidia's head of investor relations, told Reuters : This is not in response to anything TSMC (nVidia's former manufacturing partner) has done. We're going to be a much bigger, multibillion dollar business, and realistically no one foundry can service that.

Although nVidia are suggesting they have no complaints about TSMC, the move is considered to be an attempt to return to their formula of product announcement followed by quick product release. This method had secured the performance crown for nVidia for quite some time, until things went bad in 2002 and they had to surrender the crown to ATI.

State-of-the-art GPUs, like nVidia's Geforce FX, have become process and manufacturing drivers. To deliver the immense computational power needed to create cinematic images in real-time, nVidia's GPUs require the most sophisticated process technologies.

As part of the agreement, nVidia will gain access to IBM's comprehensive suite of foundry services and leading-edge manufacturing technologies, including power-efficient copper wiring, and a roadmap that leads to 65nm (nanometer; a billionth of a meter) in the next several years, giving the company the necessary tools to advance its state-of-the-art GPUs.

IBM is bringing a new foundry business model by combining advanced technology coupled with close customer integration, stated Jen-Hsun Huang, president and CEO at nVidia. Our strategic alliance with IBM gives NVIDIA unprecedented opportunity to bring groundbreaking GPU products to the market. The combination of NVIDIA and IBM's capabilities will be powerful.

IBM plans to begin manufacturing the next-generation GeForce graphics processor this summer at IBM's state-of-the-art 300mm plant in East Fishkill, N.Y. The new IBM USD 2.5 billion chip-making facility combines, for the first time anywhere, IBM chip-making breakthroughs such as copper interconnects, silicon-on-insulator (SOI) transistors and low-k dielectric insulation on 300mm wafers. The new facility began operation last year, and will ramp up in capacity throughout 2003.

We have a deep customer collaboration with nVidia, the kind of support normally reserved for IBM's Server group and very select large OEM partners, said Michel Mayer, general manager, IBM Microelectronics Division. We understand that leading fabless semiconductor companies, like NVIDIA, need to get to market as quick as possible, with the latest technologies, yet need to keep their focus on their customers and products, not on manufacturing.

Beyond the chip manufacturing technology, IBM also offers an advanced automated management system that not only controls production on the factory floor, but provides a connection for customer and supplier systems and processes, allowing closer integration across the supply chain. IBM's automated management system provides NVIDIA with opportunities ranging from improved operation to greater efficiency and competitive advantage, while using e-business techniques to adapt to real-time, on-demand influences from the marketplace.

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IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

I wonder what the two companies will do together. If Ibm's hardware skill is any indication its likely gonna have some serious power since ibm always seems to deliver the goods when its least expected. However ibm is also the type of company that requires high priceing so likely video cards are gonna get a lot more expensive with all the new stuff they will be developing. As for this war with iraq crap, I think people should just ignore the iraq war in places like this cause its likely as important here as a discussion of whether mega games should stick to popup advertisements or start chargeing people to visit.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

lolTo say that you hope "nvidia goes down" is just about the dumbest thing I've ever seen someone say.If Nvidia goes down, ATI will then be the domniate card maker, and nothing will stop them from raising prices on their cards.Competition folks.. that's what this is all about. I'm happy ATI got its act together... that means I might not pay as much for a video card from nvidia or ATI.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

HAHA, bye bye ATi.... With IBM as if ATi stand a chance.... Nvidia have more than enough resources to beat them, and said that there not resorting to using them things by IBM just yet.... When they do, look out ATi. The NV35 is already pretty much created, so those saying they *need* IBM are wrong. Read the story, its going to take a bigger company to beable to keep with the demand!!!!

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Well the way I see it is This world Needs competition. W/out it prices and other things would go crazy. Im JUST SICK and TIRED OF ATI lovers Talking shit about Nvidia and how powerful the ATI 9700PRO is and how its going ATI are going to beat Nvidia. Anyways we will have to wait and see. NV35 Will be the Bomb!

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Nvidia has better picture quality???? That's a laugh. At this moment the 9700pro, 9800 has the best picture quality when resolutions are up high. Period. Pump up the fsaa and Ansioscopic filtering and its no contest:Pluses:+Fastest Desktop Graphics - period+Raises the bar on 3D Image Quality+Doesn't need a leaf-blower to cool itMinuses-None"The Radeon 9800 PRO makes an impressive showing, nullifying the slim lead NVIDIA's FX 5800 Ultra held over the Radeon 9700 PRO. While the newcomer achieves parity with the NVIDIA card in standard tests, it totally dominates the FX 5800 Ultra when it comes to FSAA and anisotropic filtering. Additionally, the ATi cards offer the better FSAA/ aniso implementation in our comparison.""The Radeon 9800 Pro has solidified ATI's place at the top of the 3D pack, and in many ways, has proven to be more substantial than simply an overclocked Radeon 9700 Pro. The core enhancements have yielded significant gains in anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering performance, and the higher clock speeds have been attained without any loss of stability. This is a win-win product release, and definitely ups the ante for hardcore, performance gaming.""One thing is for sure, ATI's new 9800 series VPU will deliver the most frames per second while also providing image quality that is second to none."Ya Nvidia has better picture quality..lmao. It never did.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Ownage, RIGHT NOW ATI has beaten Nvidia in the high-end and mid-range area of graphic cards. And your right. We need competition or companies will release cards like the g-force4mx line of chips that are totally false advertising and brutal in performance.Both companies need to fight the good fight or we will get crappy products. Hopefully the NV35 will compete with the 9800 and the 9900pro. Better for all of us if it does.Nvidia Rules, you make me laugh. "HAHA, bye bye ATi...." That remark is the same thing Nvidia fan-boys said when they heard of the NV30. And waited for the card that never appeared. Love that P.R. Department from Nvidia. "The 9700pro killer" They called it..... What a lie that was. Made all of you wait in vain for a vacuum cleaner...and the other remark...."ATI MUST BE SHITTIN ON THERE PANTS RIGHT NOW LOOK AT WORLD HERE COMES nVidia MOTHERLOAD"That is what Nvidia fan-boys have been saying for the last 9 months or more. The truth is in the pudding. And unless Nvidia can release the NV35 on time and have it beat the 9800 and the 9900 running 256 megs of ddr2 memory, then it will be another snow job from Nvidia to you fan-boys........

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Anonymous, no one knows what the NV35 will be you moron. It's more or less a updated version of the 5800 Ultra chipset. And those comments were copied from various websites to prove to your Nvidia fanboys that the 9700pro and the 9800 are superior to the 5800ultra. Most people don't want a leaf blower or a dirt devil vacuum in their PC tower.Until the NV35 comes out and beats ATI's latest offerings, then you Nvidia fanboys cannot say shit.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

DRDEATH1. 9800 is not that superior to the 9700 pro you jackass. YOu can mod a 9700pro into a 9800, if you knew shit about shit, you would have figured that out by now.. One of the things you pasted states is superior to an overclocked 9700. (will post the link later, once i refind it, if you are unbeleiving)2. Different monitors may work better with different cards... he said something about plasma screen.3. After the NV35, if Ati where still ahead (which it will not, Nvidia no what they have to beat now..) Then Nvidia will incorporate IBM technology aswell... currently the NV35 is too far underway to do so...

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

NV35 is not andupdated version of the 5800 you moron. FIrstly they have discontinued it realising that the chipset was not on par with the Radeons new chipset (It beats the 9700pro in alot of benches, so dont say its superior either) but the 9800 they realised was better. SO they withdrew it after seeing the r350 specs and how powerful its claimed to be, and are going for their chipset that wasnt due for ages. They are too far in for any changing, without scrapping it. But it will beat ATi. This time Next year, Nvidia will be on top!!

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

The 5800Ultra was discontinued for the very reason it was not a good selling choice over the 9700pro. How could the 5800Ultra compete? It was slower in some tests ran. (the most important ones when someone spends $500 on a new high-end video card...) Fssa and Ansioscopic filtering. (quality settings) Not only that. The 9700pro did this without the excessive cooling. Loud vacuum like noise. And the taking up of a extra PCI slot. And more importantly. The price. At the time that some people could even find a 5800Ultra(over-clocked 5800) the cost for that card was $500 or more. You could buy a 9700AIW for $350-$400. 9700pro for $300. The 9800 announcement just made matters worse for the leaf blower.The 5800Ultra was never to compete with the 9800. This is why Nvidia's P.R. Department called the 5800Ultra...."the 9700pro killer" And it is superior to the 9700pro. It's advanced shader capabilities which have longer shader instructions make it so. And it's F-buffer capabilities. Which only passes pixels that require multi-passing through the pixel engine multiple times, while doing other steps in the rendering pipeline. It's just that games today do not incorporate those future features.And the NV35 will more or less be a updated version of the NV30 core. Your trying to tell us the core set for the NV35 is totally different from the NV30? Ya right. If it were, you would not see that card until fall if that.Maybe Nvidia will get it right this time and incorporate the chipset on a 256bit memory interface.And when the NV35 is released it should be faster then the 9800. Or even the 9900pro. But that is how things work. Because after the NV35 is released in the following months the R400 running on a whole new core will be released also. Then the NV40. This goes back and forth. And is good for us consumers. Be thankful that ATI has stepped up to the plate and put the fire under Nvidia's lazy ass of late. They needed it. They got lazy. We need this competition.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

My question is this. Why would anyone want to spend $200 more to buy a 5800 over the 9700pro when the performance for the 5800 is just 5-10% faster and too noisy? And that increase is just in some bench marks too! Yikes. This is not what i call a "superior" card. Superior i would call the 9700pro. Cheaper. Just as fast. Less noise. Less heat. Not as big. Cheaper. That's superior.

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Hey just a thought. What would stop ATI from not getting their chipsets made from IBM also? It's a free market. And IBM plays no favorites as we all know. Hell they are even in co-development with AMD on some projects. And this would make IBM smile that they are taking major business from TSMC. And considering IBM and ATI co-developed the G.P.U in the Game-Cube, and ATI bought into a liscencing agreement with IBM recently, if TSMC's production values are not up to snuff, you just might see ATI go that way too.......

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Also lets see if the NV35 will be out in time and powerful enough to combat the 9800 pro and the *hopefully soon* radeon w/ DDR2 ram.Also, let's hope Nvidia learned their lesson about cooling that souds like f-15s and a complete waste of a PCI slot.And im pretty sure as well that the nv35 wont have any tech from IBM incorporated.Yes ATI made the VPU of the gamecube, but i did hear that the CPU of the box was manufactured by IBM (that was fmo a friend though, not 100% sure)BTW, who cares about consoles, anyway?

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

>>> And the NV35 will more or less be a updated version of the NV30 core. Your trying to tell us the core set for the NV35 is totally different from the NV30? Ya right. If it were, you would not see that card until fall if that. <<<Ok d**khead, firstly, they have not said there is a fall release date.Secondly, i heard of a release date estimated (just an estimate) of alot later than that... There deal with IBM is going to help them get there faster.Thridly... WTF call is a leaf blower?? Other manufacturers have released them without and noise at all you d**khead.. its purely heatsink driven. So f**ken research next time you nob, your (800 is nothing more than an overclocked 9700pro.... ATI is ripping people of, by selling the same hardware, just "unlocked" to run fster... its costing them the same to make.[url removed] is my proof.... when are you goinmg to post links to backup your statements??Everything you post is merely your thoughts, or statements you have heard and assumed correct

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Proof of what you d**k head. That's just a link about Gainward and the 5800 they are selling. It's a Advertising plug for THEIR PRODUCT! It's not a independant review! They can say anything about the card. Because not one hardware site has a Gainward Golden Sample card to review. How convient. Have you gotten one?? And until INDEPENDANT SOURCES review it to say it is silent!!! Then you cannot say jack! And what the hell do you call a 5800Ultra????LMFAO!!! That is exactly an over-clocked 5800 non-ultra! That's all Nvidia did to it! When they found out that the 9700pro was still faster then the 5800 after running their inhouse tests, they over-clocked the 5800 and put a massive "leaf blower" on the card to cool it. That's the 5800Ultra!A over-clocked 5800. The only difference is the clock speed! And you have the balls to say the 9800 is just a over-clocked 9700pro. At least the 9800 has longer shader capabilities put into the card then the 9700pro. Look at all the review sites on the card. They tell you this."with 8 pipeline performance"Now that's a lie from Nvidia. This is why the card is slower in tests then the 9700pro and the 9800. It's not 8x1 pixel pipeline. Even though Nvidia B.S.'D all about that. It's 4x2. Huge difference. The same configuration as the g-force4 series! And you see the price of the 5800Ultra Golden Sample. 649 pounds! Thats twice as much as a 9700pro. More then the 9800!

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

"The new Radeon 9800 DirectX 9 VPU (R350) supersedes the highly successful Radeon 9700 (R300). Technologically, the chip is an updated and optimized R300 core, with changes that go beyond a simple clock speed bump. The shader unit (SmartShader) has been supplemented with a so-called "F-Buffer," which theoretically allows shader code of infinite length. As a dig at NVIDIA for calling the FX a "DirectX 9+" part because of its extended programmability, ATi has named its R350 a "DirectX 9++" part.""In addition to its more compact design (single-slot solution) and its simpler (and much quieter) cooler, the Radeon 9800 PRO is also much faster than the FX 5800 Ultra in all important disciplines (FSAA, anisotropic filtering) and offers the best image quality with those features enabled.""There have been three main enhancements to the Radeon 9800 Pro architecture: SmartShader 2.1, SmoothVision 2.1, and Hyper-Z III+. SmartShader 2.1 includes the basic features of the 2.0 spec, while adding an F-Buffer that support fragment shader code of unlimited length.""However it does look like Pixel Shader performance is enhanced on the 9800 Pro by a sizeable amount.""SMARTSHADER 2.1 – Which gives the 9800 Pro beyond DX9 specs which ATI is calling DX9++. An F-Buffer has been introduced in the R350 core which allows long shader programs to be run much faster then previously and also gives unlimited pixel shader support allowing for a true OpenGL 2.0 compliant VPU.SMOOTHVISION 2.1 – Which is the AA/AF component of the 9800 Pro. This newer version has hardware enhancement of the memory controller for improved AA/AF performance at higher resolutions.HyperZ III+ - Which is their Z-Culling technique. The Z-Cache has been enhanced to better handle stencil buffer data for features like shadow volumes.The core has been tweaked to allow for higher stable clock speeds."ALL THAT INFO IS FROM: [url removed] [url removed] [url removed] [url removed]

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

Ok death... and what the f**k does that have to do with you slaggin the NV35???I posted a link to a f**ken Video Card (Nvidia5800fx) that is not a "leaf" blower. YOu want me to find reviews for it? and pictures aswell? No Problem.As far asking if i had one, no shit i dont... but do you have one? No! do you have a Radeon 9800? No!So same for you, if your going to critiscize, then do so properly if thats the way your playing it.And optimised core?? Thats a load of BS. Have you seen pictures of the 9800, its identical to the 9700pro with minimal "cosmetic" changes. A simple hardware mod, and you've scored yourself a 9800 out of your old 9700 PRo. People with a 9500 can mod theres to get a 9700... so wait a minute? If everybody can do this... then the products are hardly different... Their just unlocking more of its potential...Need a f**ken independant soruce for proof eh? Well i got that link from one, in a little bit, i will post a few sites, after i retrack them down..

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

ALL u mother f**kers are going to pay. U lick massive wet soggy balls. See its people like u that make this world a piece of shit. Im talking about u ATI Fan GIRLYS out there. We're gonna make u eat our shit then eat ur shit that u shited out and Make U EAT OUR DOUBLE SHIT. So just enjoy that shit before We reprocess that shit and shit it out. I Am SORRY IM Wrong.Love,DRDEATH

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

First, some proper benches.. Not too in favor of GeForceFx, but shows its on par with 9700..[url removed] do lose to it in 4x aa and 8x AF, but other than that, they are in the lead, in the 2xaa 8x afAnd here is the Site which i got the link from...[url removed]

IBM Clinch Next Generation nVidia Chips

"More than just a higher clocked Radeon 9700, the Radeon 9800 Pro doesn't cease to impress because of the minor but potent improvements ATI made to the R350 core. Definitely a pleasant surprise, ATI has produced a worthy interim successor to the Radeon 9700 Pro. If you want the best out today, look no further than the Radeon 9800 Pro; it's quiet, faster, occupies a single slot, and will enjoy much wider availability than the GeForce FX.""There's a little more to it than just a boost in clock speed alone. The card is physically larger with a molex-style connector, presumably to keep it fed with the required juice at all times. Looking at the performance exhibited by its main compeititor, the GeForce FX Ultra, a simple clock boost, a la GeForce3 - GeForce3 Ti 500, would have sufficed for ATi to unequivocally take back the performance crown. They've gone a little further on the hardware front to ensure the card is as future-proof as possible.'"It's both faster and has more features than the 9700 Pro, and generally matches the GeForce FX on the feature front. That alone will ensure that it sells by the proverbial bucket load. Our benchmarks have shown it to be the performance leader in the majority of benchmarks that we conducted. Excelling the key area of high resolutions and high settings of image quality (4x AA, 8x AF), it betters the 9700 Pro in almost every way."And that's my proof. INDEPENDANT SOURCES! Not a Advertising plug BY THE COMPANY SELLING THE PRODUCT!If you look at the guts inside the 5800Ultra and the 5800. You will find them the same. Exactly. The only difference is the clock speed. AT LEAST ATI DID NOT PULL THAT SNOW JOB.[url removed] [url removed] [url removed] Those are some other sites that give you MORE proof.

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