Microsoft After Doom III

Microsoft may be trying to secure some form of exclusivity for the XBox on Doom III. When the news first surfaced it still was uncomfortably close to April 1st for anyone to take notice but as time went by the rumours remained and finally the story has been printed in the May issue of Wired magazine.

It all started with a bold rumour claiming that Microsoft were working hard on getting Doom III exclusively on the XBox, that means no PC version. That form of the story however, held no credibility since no one would expect id to be willing to give up the highly lucrative and almost traditional format for the game, at least not for any logical amount of money. In any case such a move would almost certainly alienate the overwhelming majority of Doom fans, putting the success of the new installment at risk.

So where is the truth behind this rumour? It is a well known fact that console manufacturers chase after the exclusive, it is also well know that Microsoft are going after the well established games rather than waiting to create their own XBox-only titles. Doom III would seem a perfect choice for a target but the widespread success of the title makes it highly unlikely that id would dare such a move. According to Wired then, Microsoft are not trying to get the game as an XBox-only title but rather are working on getting a PC - XBox release first, leaving PS2 to wait a while.
According to the magazine, Microsoft have one very strong argument on their side since it appears that only the PC and XBox are able to fully support the full (intended) capabilities of the game. It seems that any GC or PS2 version of the game will not carry all of the features of the PC - XBox one.

It therefore seems that the ball is in id's court, do they risk losing the PS2 market or will they be confident that PS2 users, driven by the Doom III urge will still go after the other versions?
It is also pretty certain that MS will throw quite a bit of money id's way in order to help them make up their minds.

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Microsoft After Doom III

f**kING MS!!! THEY CAN GO EAT FUKING DOG SHIT!!!!! THEY GET DOOM, I f**kING KILL GATES!!! X-BOX IS SO GOD DAMN LAME!!! LEARN HOW TO MAKE YOUR OWN f**kING GAMES!!! THEY HAVE DONE THIS TO MANY TIMES NOW!!! TO HELL WITH MS!!!!

Microsoft After Doom III

Bill Gates is not about making money. Hes all about stopping others from making money. And in a lame attempt to kill the console compeditors he is going to piss off alot of people... me included... if this happens. Doom 3 is designed for PC dammit!! It belongs there!

Microsoft After Doom III

Well I just sent an email to PC Gamer about this I was hoping to find outher PPL that felt the same way and here you all are. I really wanted to get and email at ID so I could send Our beloved Mr Carmack and email directly, pleading with him not to even partly sell out to those money grubbing bastards. Look at Halo. We nearly had that then Microsoft bought the whole damn company and we are still waiting for it to come out on PC. Well by the time it gets to us I think I'll be over it.And in answer to this last post by the brave (Anonymous) at 18:9 7/4/2003 We are not hipocrites in wanting Doom III to stay as a PC release. We are saying Microsoft is getting to big for their boots. And I don't feel the least bit hipocritical on typing that out using their software. But in any case, how do you know these other posts weren't put up using Mac, or Lynix OS's. So get back in your box you wanker!

Microsoft After Doom III

f**k some of you ppl are d**ks. PysIk, Soup, Battletek in particular. FFS, what are your problems?? Look at sony, they are f**ken way worse. Talk about being money grabbers, they licensed Grand Theft Auto 3 and Vice City to PS2 only... those games would totally kick ass on Xbox. The power is alot more than the PS2, face it, PS2 is already maxed out its limits, GTA3 pushed them, and Vice City was restricted by them...Im getting Doom3 on PC for sure, but i hope M$ does get it exclusive to Xbox... i think thats more than fair

Microsoft After Doom III

Phoenix....Thats just an exclusive for console... if they dont grab it, whats to stop Sony? SOny are way worse than M$... i have had to deal with them at work. They are wanting control over eveything, here in Australia, Kmart had PS2 banned for a bit, for selling htem cheaper than they are allowed to...ANd then they buy out huge titles like GTA3, and Vice City, knowing there the titles that make the console.If Xbox had every game PS2 did, then nobody would by them... there a Piece of Shit. Im not being hipocrit, i own both. I dont really like either, but I prefer Xbox, its way better. You people just cant eccept it because its a M$ product.And I am a PC person, i like my console games (GTA3, Vice CIty etc...) but my PC is way more important, and then my Xbox, and if it werent for the GTA's, my PS2 could go in the f**ken bin...

Microsoft After Doom III

It will be a sad day in gaming history if ID needs revenue so badly they would make an Xbox-only exclusive.That said, I don't think it will happen. I think it will be multi-platform... it might be a staggered release, but it will be multi-platform never the less.I hope all you guys that are screaming for the blood of Microsoft for offering to pay off ID for exclusive rights actually BUY all the games that own. If not then it is YOU that is to blame for ID even considering the idea, not Microsoft.

Microsoft After Doom III

spz my bad... some people would still buy the PS2, because some refuse to give the xbox a fair go, being Microsoft and all....But if there against everything MIcrosoft stands for, then they should be against Sony, and every other business... there all out for the same goal, its just Microsoft is successful, and people get jealous.... And think that Sony love them... HAHAHA sif

Microsoft After Doom III

look, we all know Id software will release a kick ass game in Doom 3. does it really matter if it is across all current formats? even if it doesn't look exactly like a pc or xbox version, just the simple fact that its doom 3 and by Id software wil make it rock on ps2 and gc.

Microsoft After Doom III

ha, this article is false, if you read John Carmacks finger thing, it is being designed stricktly for the PC, and the ported over to the xbox, by most likley another company, now it is possible for microsoft to offer a very large sum of money, but face it every one of the what 19 emplpyees at ID are set for LIFE and they have spent the last 3 years working on this new engine so unless they want to see all they have worked for since 1992 and all they stand for in the gaming industry im pretty sure they will not make is only for xbox. that said, it is also true that usually excusivness is strictly console, the PC is like second hand smoke for everthing, except games devloped for it. i remember reading Carmacks finger reports when he was working on quake 3, and all of the (then0 13 members hated working with console systems. so for a company and lad programmer that love to push the limits of home 3d technoloy i think its a really safe bet you hae NOTHING at all to worry about.and why the hell cant all games come out on all consoles at once? or even better yet, all consoles able to play all games from any platform! i mean dvd player and vcr manufacturers are still doning good! i suppose its just an other sign that even though games have gone from 39 to 49 to what doomIII will most likley be US $59 (dont blame ID for the price, blame Activision) that its not the good ol "please the customer", but to make so much money it cant all be spent by on person or family. or 5 SUV's and a few mercedes.

Microsoft After Doom III

and another thing, i didnt EVER hear of it going to the PS2 or GameCube, i dont think its even possible to run it from those two platforms, at least xbox has a hard drive with a big swap file, all the ps2 has to offer is 32megs, and the gamecube the same i think - it is impossible to run it on those two, unless you want the levels to be like 1/4 the normal size, the sounds too load everytime you shoot something, and the textures to be solid color panals. or looking like an un-excelerated quake 2 for that matter.if anyone got to play the alpha leak, they should have noticed just to run the menu page it took over a gig of RAM, although not at all compressed or optimized its very safe to say that when the final product ships, it will always be in need of at least 512 megs of ram (wouldnt surprise me if the box says requires 512, recomends 768m-1gig), be it real RAM or swap files, which currently only the PC and Xbox can offer.

Microsoft After Doom III

x-box was the system that made the spread of better looking games, alot of people play the games just for plain fun,, and alot play for fun and visually stunning graphics, i am a graphics junky myself, and i think that if it wasnt for x-box, alot of these graphic lovers would be getting bored of the ps2, sony is developing newer systems and so is microsoft, and whatever machine can make games look better i will buy.i am a pc guy myself, ill probably buy d3 for the pc when released.

Microsoft After Doom III

ok in reply to the doom3 on consoles, it can be run on the consoles. the reason doom3 needs a high end comp is cause of the lighting system and the per polygon collison system, turn them off and the game runs better. simple.i don't like microsoft and i h8 how they buy everyone out etc. doesn't give some of the smaller companies a chance.bag me all u want. but by sayin your a F**k wit etc isn't a brillant way of gettin your opinion across

Microsoft After Doom III

I wish Gates and crew could for once do something on there own, theres nothing i hate more then a company who can't make there own talent, so they find some with the mighty dollar...then rave how great they are. Even the windows O.S's weren't there own talent. Now to try to put Doom III on a machine not even close to half the power of a modern gaming Radeon,FX machine? Killing Halo, and setting the fps genre back 2 steps wasn't enough, but to go after Doom III? Thats sick.Id has made a very respectable name for themselves, I hope they don't become tarnished labelled "sellouts" like the way Bungie did.

Microsoft After Doom III

Longbow I have one thing to say to you WINDOWS and OFFICE...But yeah I know what you guys are talking about more competition wont hurt us but I promise all of you THAT I will the first one to have DOOM III original box in Sweden... =)... I have to keep it live sence I was the first one to have Quake III Arena original in Sweden...Keep on fragin' you all

Microsoft After Doom III

Why all the arguing? Why should you PC fanboys care if it goes to the XBox? If it does it means that ID get more money and therefore make better games in the future.If Doom III goes to any console i do hope it comes to the XBox. At least it would be a near pc port. Somehow i couldnt see a PS2 or Gamecube handling it.

Microsoft After Doom III

MICROSOFT - be a real f**king games company, and make your own f**king games, dont just use other people, and f**king bribe them with your $$$CONSOLE USERS - f**k off, be a Real gamer and use a pc, a f**king crap xbox or ps2 is not worthy of a great game like doom iii

Microsoft After Doom III

No need to worry. ID will NEVER make this game exclusive just for the X-BOX. Total suicie if they did. The largest following of ID software is in the PC community. And this game was always intended for a HIGH-END PC. This is what Carmack said from the onset. "this will push the limits of directx8.1 and gaming to new limits...."There is absolutely no mention of this game coming to the Game-Cube or PS2. It's not even on their release calender. And those two platforms would have a hard time running it in comparison to the PC. Even compared to the X-BOX. (which will also have a hard time) The PS2 version would suffer the most. The hardware in the PS2 does not support fsaa, advanced Pixel and vertex shaders.(Only in software. Proformence killer.) This is where the Game-Cube has a step on the PS2. It supports those features in hardware. But because the G.P.U inside the X-BOX is Nvidia, it does support directx8.1 capabilities and advanced vertex and pixel shaders. It would run the game the best amoung the consoles.(look at Splinter Cell for example) But once again, even the X-box version won't compare to a Mid-range, or high-end PC. Typical Microsoft. That has always been their strategy. Buy out smaller companies to produce their products. What's new. However, ID sofware gains nothing in this deal which would never happen. Carmack has a ego the size of Bill Gates too. And Carmack wants to see his "new" work shine above all PC releases in late 2003. And that cannot happen if it's released just on the X-BOX.

Microsoft After Doom III

DaKoh I think you got it all backwards stupid. It's easier to play FPS on the PC then on the Console. Any moron can play FPS with keyboard and mouse, try doing the same thing with the controller and then we talk.PC guys are simply pissed because Console guys will get the same game, and yes XBOX can handle DOOM III.I have both Highend PC and XBOX and I'll be happy if DOOM III comes out for both.And PS2 boys, eat S**t and go play some of your new titles like American Idol.shitONyou! SHUT UP STUPID or we'll bomb you ass back to the stone age....oh wait we can't do that, you're still in the stone age.

Microsoft After Doom III

first of all xbox is an pc in an x-box lol(dont bothering arguing because xbox uses directx and ps2 uses and totally different architecture..nowon really knows how good the ps2 can handle doom3 my supped pc couldnt handle doom3 and its well over an 2ghz

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Hey kids, I know you are all upset that Microsoft was potentially trying to wreck one of the only Godly games comming out anytime soon. Well, so am I. Microsoft is trying to steal this because they might think I will buy an X-Box which is opposite from the truth... well sorta... I WILL buy one then I will take pictures of me burning and mangling an X-box and then send it to them with some anthrax :)

Microsoft After Doom III

OMG MAN! HOW GAN U HONESTLY GET A DREAMCAST!!! AND!!!! THAT GTA SUCKS ASS MAN!!! I'LL TELL U WHAT SUCKS ASS! U AND ATER LITTLE FAGGOTS THET R TO POOR TO BUY A PS2 AND HAVE 2 STICK 2 DREAMCAST! AND THEY THIK ITS GOOD!IF ITS SOOOOO GOOD! THEN WHERE R ALL THE GAMES??? WHY HAVE SEGA DITCHED IT??? ILL TELL U WHY!!!CUS IT IS CRAP!!!!!!!PS2 HAS LIKE HUNDREDS OF GAMES!!!!DC HAS ABOUT 30!!!! 30??? THATS SHIT!!!! AND THATS SHOWS U HOW SHIT THE CONSOLE IS!!!!!GET A LIFE AND A PS2 AL!!!! AND GTA 3 : VCIF U ONLY GOT A DC THEN HOW CAN u OF PLAYED GTA3 PROPERLY EH?THE DC IS OLD, PS2 IS NEW.DC= SHIT GRAPHICSPS2 = EXCELLENT GRAPHICS!SO SCREW U!!!!!!!!!

Microsoft After Doom III

PS2, good graphics even? Dont make me laugh. Dreamcast as very good games i agree. I'd rather ahve a DC than an X-Crap.And as for you Mr. William Gates. Yes i agree, Games are for kids. BUT they are also for People who want entertainment.And quite frankly i think that the "big wigs" at company's like ID and other big gaming companys care VERY MUCH about what the general public wants. for if it wernt for us, they'd be either putting out crap games (which they already do, they have to talent anymore) or there'd be no gaming industry at all.and on the final note.DOOM3 Had better go to PC. for if it does not, i'll go and personally staple someones balls to a celeing fan.

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I aint even gonna waste my breathe by laughin at the whole Ps2 = Excellent Graphics thing! Actually wot a load of bull that was, ha! I cant imagine doom 3 on it to b honest! It could go on cube it has an ATi core so it should work there!If this becomes X-Box only somehow then I'll never ever ever play this game as I don't own an X-Box and even if it is ONLY X-Box I still wont want one!

Microsoft After Doom III

What is this with the graphics thing,,, still i find no f**king point in talking about this so called PS2 graphics ,,, they are seriously f**ked up ,,, i have compared them in detail with both consoles and with a major differnce in hand i noticed that xbox was in the lead with graphics so dont these SONY c**k suckers let this get out of point,,,,

Microsoft After Doom III

Stupid Microsoft. Im Getting REally Annoyed by them lately. This would piss me off so bad if they tried to bribe ID to release it exclusively to the XBOX. These Types of Games Belong on the PC!!!!!! Not a stupid Console. I dont even think it coul handle it. WEll anyways I wanted TO say how Gay microsoft is being lately and Pissing People OFF. I dont think Halo was cut out like everyone said it was. and after those Xbox only commercials. It SHOULD SAY MIRCROSOFT ONLY! I dont think this good of a game deserves to be on XBOX! PC Rules and all ways WIll Rule.

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i'm not a hardcore gamer but the playstation 2 graphics are okay they are not better than the xbox graphics. that sucks give playstation 2 at least some credit, besides sony has great games THE GAMEPLAY IS WHAT IT IS REALLY ALL ABOUT. i can look at a pretty game but if the gameplay sucks ama throw out that game. microsoft is desperately trying to get good games on its console. IT HAS NO GOOD GAMES HALO????? LOL ITS OLD....DOOM BELONGS TO PC LIKE IT ALWAYS HAS good day people

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This is utter bullshit. In the las year or two most pc games seem to suck horribly and look like games from four or five years ago. This is due largely to the fact that these games are being ported to 3 maybe more platforms when no matter what a good PC will always smoke a console. Why should PC gamers suffer becasue the games have to be limited in order to perform on these consoles? $$$$$$ I for one refuse to buy any games good or bad lately as they all seem to suck pretty bad. Also PC games used to show a lot if not tons more creativity and would usually require a hell of a lot more brains, where console games are more linear or are typically "no brainers". It is a shame, At least we will always have older games on the PC that make these games on consoles look like games meant for the gameboy. Cheers. Too bad the companies are selling out to the "kiddies" whether they are old or young that either can only spring $299 for a PS2 or xbox or don't have the brains to use a PC. Cheers.

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Ok people need to get their facts strait. First id has showd the original alphas of doom 3 on a p3 and geforce 3 ti500, running fine. It does not need as extremely powerful comp as everyone says. Carmack himself said the ati r200 is powerful enough. Second the reason why the game cannot be easily run on consoles is thier lack of support for programmable shaders and such, and the lack of the swap file (although the xbox has a hd for swap, and the ati has a card made by ati thats slightly less feature rich than the r300). Third the playstation 2 is weak compared to either gc or xbox because of its horrible arcitexture(its frightening similar to the sega saturn, which means porting things over to it takes ALOT more time). Fourth saying that microsoft is the only one paying other companies for exclusives is completely wrong, sony constantly buys parts of other companys and bribes others for exclusives (sony owns a large share of squaresoft and other companys). Finally the playstation 2 has a 13% failure rate with its dvd-rom drive that they refuse to admit(hardware sellers know this but are unable to get sony to take responsiblity), putting it just behind the sony Xpld series car stereo equipment as their most faulty actively sold electronics (and you thought that was a clever name, car audio equipment should never explode)

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well for a starter all the people say bill gates is this that and another your little faggots because you know ur sitting there using microsoft windows even if it is 3.1 you bunch of noobs of corse i dont really agree with them trying to get Doom3 for X-box but im 90% sure that it wont be because they have allready started with the pc version i have had the alpha version + it was at E3(ps) X-box is better than PS2 and GC soo gaming noobs shh

Microsoft After Doom III

Of course it will run "fine" on a p3 and geforce 3ti500. With detail scaled down. If you want to run that gane at higher resolutions, you will need alot mopre power under the hood then that. And Carmack has also stated that. What graphic card you think was running the DOOM3 demo at E3? It was not the geforce3. It was the 9700pro.If you want to run the game with the eye candy on, you better be running a horse system in late 2003.

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damn, my 32med ddr radeon will have NOTHING on this game...Yep, it appears M$ is being a corporate nazi again, but hey props to them, they are clever ones.I dont mind so much, because we all know that id would NEVER put doom3 exclusively on xbox, and we all know that all previos 3d engines from id have been the easiest/most featured to mod. Therefore, the PC version is EXPECTED to have additional 3rd party releases that'd never see an xbox including maps, weapons, skins, and stuff that an exclusive contract w/ M$ wouldn't out-do.

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