nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

According to nVidia, the nForce 2 IGP (Integrated Graphics Processor) is faster than 90 per cent of what nVidia has currently available. Considering that the hype around the upcoming chipset is reaching its peak, such statements are to be expected since they sensationalize the obvious.
nForce2 is based on the Geforce 4 MX 420 while 90 per cent of the sales of nVidia are based on the various forms of Geforce 2 MX, as well as the TNT 2 and TNT.
Even more interesting to note is that high-end chips, i.e. Geforce 4 TI 4600, account for a mere 2 per cent of nVidia's total sales.
Nonetheless, the nForce2 venture has not yet seen the light of, retail, day and no conclusions may be drawn about the product. It remains however, the best bet for getting a balanced solution for most computing needs. So whether facts have been distorted in order to present a rosier picture of the product, or not, it is likely that nForce2 will present a useful and convenient solution for the consumer and for the system builder.
If you are interested in the official synopsis of the product, here you go:

Designed to bring new levels of functionality and performance to business, gaming, and digital media PC platforms, nForce2 offers a broad range of configuration options based on two architectures: graphics motherboards and performance motherboards. nForce2-based graphics motherboards harness the power of AMD Athlon XP+ processors and nVidia's award-winning GeForce4 MX external add-in cards and incorporate them with the system, memory, and digital media features found only in nForce2-based advanced motherboard solutions. Performance motherboards offer the same awesome system and memory performance, and allow system builders to offer customized external graphics configurations harnessing the power of fast 8X AGP bus technology and today's fastest memory technologies, including DDR400 and DDR333 modules.

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nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

Why can't they make a nForce board WITHOUT built in video? I would probably buy one if they didn't! The GF4 MX chipsets were designed so that someone who is ignorant to computer terms would go "Wow, a Geforce 4 for $99! Hell yea!" not knowing that overall they are getting ripped off. They could spend an extra $50 and get 10 times the video card. Of course it's not like ATI is any better. They're 9000 chipset is actually slower than it's 8500 counterpart. HUGELY misleading. There's nothing I hate more than companies d**king around people who don't know any better! Maybe Matrox will make a competitive lower-priced chipset and not try to turn ignorance into profit.

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

Yes, it is sad the the majority of PC users know squat when it comes to hardware issues. The G-FORCE4MX line is not a G-FORCE4 at all. Different chipset totally. And this is why this line is being pushed in a hard way by Nvidia. The price. The Bullshit. And the lies. lol. Low range and mid-range cards make the bulk of the sale for both Nvidia and ATI. So why not try and decieve the ill informed lemmings about it. As for the Radeon 9000 series. Almost the same sort of B.S as the G-FORCE4MX line. At least the 9500 does support multiple vertex shaders and supports directx9 and uses the same core as the 9700. The 9000 is a waste of money. As is the MX line. Total shiat.......my two cents.....

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

The Geforce 4's suck... even for overclocking! You could overclock any GF4 to the max and it still wouldn't be as fast as even a 4200. Its the same arguement as these morons I work with about celerons. It would take a celeron overclocked to 4 gigs to compare to about a P4 2 gig. People.... When it comes to computers, this is usually the case.... If it's cheap... It's gonna suck... If its WAY expensive, it's probably not worth it! ALWAYS look for the midrange!!! a Geforce 4 Ti 4200 is about $150, Only $50 more than a GF4 MX and a CRAP LOAD BETTER!..... my two cents.....

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

Yea all in wonder ati 8500 radeon 128 mb is prbably the best getting every bite for ur dollars, and yeah ive notices that ati 9000 is crap companies use this strategy for quick in cash but nvidea simply rips its custmoers way worse by all these confusion bs claming its got faster clock speed its better then the "128mb" then when the actual test is done WRONG bs info but anyways the best choice right now is ati 9700 pro with 128mb and it DOES NOT have 275/550 mem speed that was wrong in this artice that is more like my video card the 8500 wich runs black hawk down demo at max settings best action game to play [url removed] C YA in my Cross Hairs

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

DRDEATH, it's not false advertising! It's taking candy from babies. These corporate ass holes know that 75% of the population of earth have no computer knowledge, never investigate before making a puchase, and ALWAYS buy a name. To me it's kinda like those psycos do at halloween when they put razor blades in candy. These 75% of people just bite right down, without checking! To me, the saddest thing that comes to mind is that these razor cut morons do it all over again! THEY NEVER LEARN!

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

Well, I do think that the whole MX series is a very misleading product line. However, I think the nforce boards make a great solution for a low priced system, that can still play most of the games out there.I recently built a system for a friend of mine. He spends most of his computer time in chat rooms and surfing, but occasionally he likes to do some gaming. So when I proposed his ugrades, 200 bucks was all he was willing to spend. Out of that 200 bucks, I had to get him a MB, Processor, RAM, Case, and Graphics card. To do this with any proprietarty solution, I would have ended up putting a duron together to keep within the price. But at 60 bucks I set him up with an nforce 420, and an AMD XP 1700+, and 256 of RAM.System ran nice for the price, and handled all of the games I threw in it.Point being, that 2 years down the road when your TI's are in the same place as the MX's are, They'll still be able to handle all the games out there, they just won't be the best thing out there.If you are living in a city were the top speed is 40 MPH, bumper to bumber traffic, You can buy a Dodge Viper. It will look great, but it will still be no more practical than the Chevy Cavalier, since both cars can go 40.Hence, untill the game publishers start producing games that really need all the performance of these high end cards, then the average user will still be fine with one, or two year old technology. Most people who I do upgrades for, they're GF2, GF3, GF4MX, is not the bottleneck in they're system.

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

ShockerExe, 2 problems with your anologies.1.) You are talking about 2 years down the road. In two years DirectX 9 will be in full swing and Direct X 10 will be up and coming. Also the graphics language standard Cg should be in effect. TRUST ME, In two years, there is so much changing in gaming, even the 4600's wont be able to keep up! DX9 will be a minimum. Software is back on the rise challenging hardware again. Also Standards are changing. Sure they'll still be able to play they're old games. But I bet every moron who believed that DOOM 3 will run on thier GF4MX chipsets will be HORRIBLY mistaken and that's less than a year!2.) Video Cards are NOTHING like cars. ALL cars are capped at a certain speed and will be for a long time. Video cards can go as fast as they want! The only cap you can put on a game is maybe having a kick ass video card on a piece of crap computer!Can you tell me what is GF4 about a GF4 MX chipset? When DOOM 3 comes out and raises the standard to a GF3 or GF4 equivalent, will the GF2 equivalent of a MX xhipset really hold up? Not according to ID, hell, or Turbine, FOX, or even Monolith! People are buying these shit cards and shit sets thinking they are buying something that will last 2 years!?!?!?! That's insane?!!? Did you know that a Radeon 9000 Pro is only %20 faster than a radeon 7500? And is actually slower than a 8500 both which you can get cheaper? These chipsets are designed to rip you off!!! Why? Because they can rip $100 bucks from you every year!

nForce 2 IGP Beats Most nVidia Products

Look, the point is that for an inexpensive graphics solution for someone who doesnt care about the most extreme graphics, and they want to play "most" the games out there an nForce is a good choice. They are not loosing anything really, considering most of the nforce boards are around the same price as a comparable MB w/o intigrated graphics. So a year or two down the road when the graphics are no good, they can go buy that up to par card, and not feel ripped off, since they didnt blow the extra 100 bucks in the first place on the card. SOme people are not computer freaks and need the greatest most extreme cards, thats why they still sell them. Its better that I build someone a cheap computer, and use and nForce, then for them to get a POS puter from the store that has even worse GFX and costs more. Not every0one wants to spend 800 bucks to a grand for a sytem. Try configureing a sytem under 500 with anything more for graphics, and you'll have to make big sacrifices somewhere else. As I said I think the GF4MX cards are crap too. But for the price, nforce boards are not a ripoff.

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