nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

The graphics war has entered a new phase and we are now asked to forget the number of pipelines, whether PS 2.0 or 3.0 is supported even the special compression methods used and we are told to concentrate on clock speeds.

nVidia was quick to reply to ATIs clock speed boost, revealed a couple of days ago, with a speed bump of its own. In a recent nVidia briefing to its partners the company confirmed that the Geforce 6800 Ultra will clock at over 450 MHz. The details of how that will be achieved were not that clear but insiders claim that this boost will come courtesy of some impressive BIOS tweaking. The clock speed change is, apparently, something nVidia had been planning to do for some time now since it is reported that samples, clocked at the higher speeds, are already doing the rounds. nVidia must have been expecting the ATI clock boost then and the ball is now sitting pretty in ATIs court. Even though it may appear that the Canadian company does not have that many options available, we are not too sure if minor clock speed changes are enough to really make a difference in real world gaming conditions.

In other graphics war news, the first ATI X800PRO images have surfaced and you can view the board by following the Screens tab above. It has also been reported that the X800Pro and X800XT will only consume a maximum of 80W, meaning that there will be no need for an external power connector and that the card may fit nicely in most modern cases and may not dim the lights in the house when you start gaming.

Another story which may upset ATI is that the X800PRO seems to be up for pre-order in, at least, one web site with a 05/07/2004 ETA and a USD 499 price tag. Having your board up for sale before you have officially announced it must be slightly embarrassing, especially when you are building a Get Ready to XPerience It teaser campaign. For a link to the web site selling the board, follow the Download tab above.

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nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

This is from Hardcop and Hexus " Nvidia is in a desperate state and have now gone to their partner Gainward to create a water cooled 6800 version".They go one to say that this decision is not respectable, and that watercooling is an option that should be left for modders and hardcore gamers to do themselves.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

i don't mean to bitch but i feel sad for nvidia and all their fan who once again belived what they said and feel that have been decieved (like with the fx series), but don't be bitter, the war will never be over and the King won't always be the same.i posted (Remember what happened last time Nvidia told the wolrd how much better they would be?) Hate to say so but Told you So...Here, we are ALL gamers at heart and the only important thing is to enjoy our games so we should all buy ATI for the time being.awg i can't get over how much this is fukedup, i know nvidia did their best and belived that this time they would reign again, they had more cool stuff in their card and it realy looked likeit would be IT. this must seriously hurt:(

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

First of:RESULTS ARE IN - DUH, RETARD, ATI IS FASTER! PROVEN IN ALMOST EVERY REVIEW.2) 6850 IS A DESPERATE ATTEMPT FOR POWER WHICH IS GOING TO FAIL FROM THE NEW REVIEWS3) HEY LOOK, 2 PEOPLE ALREADY CAME TO ATI AFTER THIS DEBATE, HAHA LOL, STUPID NVIDIOTS

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

Editor's personal conclusionRegarding features and performance, R100 was prodigious, R200 even better, and R300 finally turned the tide regarding performance for good. With very small improvements to this chip (leading to R360), ATI managed to embarrass Nvidia again and again. Even NV38, a higher-clocked version of NV35 which is a quite an improvement over NV30, could not really compete with 9800 XT. Now Nvidia brings a completely new architecture with massive improvements regarding performance, they are still going to lose the battle once more, this time by a smaller margin, though.[url removed]

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

i was also feeling hope in nVidia for soemthing good (not that i was going to get one over an ATi) but it still wasnt as good as i thought it would even be. As an ATi fan, i thopught nVidia would do better than they did, but lol, they come out with a water cooled one thats going to cost $100 more for improved clock speeds that probably still wiont surpass the power of an ATi

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

If u guys had any common sense, u would see the benchmarks and see the color that is coded for the x800 is further than the coded bar for 6800 ultra in almost every benchmark except the few that are MADE for nVidia cards like ut2004. ut2004 is probably the only one that nVidia does better in, but as far as i see:RESULTS ARE IN: ATi IS FASTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DUH-retarded nVidiots

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

Man Nvidia is f**ked watercooling doesn't count, and the R480 is on the way. NV40 has hit its limit already, Nvidia is doomed. Also Farcry which is suppose to be a Nvidias game runs better in every way on the rival R420, funny.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

the water cooled version wont do that great cause then ATi could just realease an x800XT Pro that has a higher clocked core lol, it would be SO much easier for ATI to meet with the performance of 6850 water cooled edition

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

As soon as nVidia makes a card as fast as the 6850 WITHOUT water cooling needed for it to run, i'll consider thinking their OK for graphics. Even if that happened id still go with ATi. THE ONLY way id ever choose nVidia was if they suddenly came out with a card 5x as fast as x800XT

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

sry to say to all u, but nvidiot works and sounds better than atidiot. nVidia flows in with the sound but ati is just saying ati with diot. It really sucks, so if u plan on calling ati a retard, get something better than atidiot

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

To Anonymousat 15:23You right about what you say and also the fact the nvidia is a play on words for the word envidio with is spanish for envious. Which is what the nVidia company is because they know they aren't as good as ATi

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

TO:Anonymousat 15:36 4/5/2004Thats really amazing. In the TRon 2, NV40 got WOOPED. The only decrease (Major) for the x800 was at 1600x1200 and 4x AA and 16x AF. Thats pathetic. 6800 Ultra fell back on 1024 with AA and AF

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

If u go to:[url removed] shows how ATI has made their card to run the hardest test in 3dmark03 flawlessly.In the end its getting monster framerates at FULL ALL. That shows how much ATI knows what theyre doing. If im not mistaken, that is the nature test, which is the most important test of the whole benchmark. Someone confirm that....Mother nature right? i believe so...

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

"I still have a Geforce 4 TI 48, FX didn't impress me so I didn't buy one, but I don't think I'll ever own an ATI again. It's just not worth the hassle. Maybe they fixed the driver problems on THEIR machines, but I don't want to switch drivers every time I want to play a game. Bottom line. Nvidia knows they screwed up, all the better for us that ATI showed them they screwed up so we get better stuff. ATI fanboys can bitch all they want but ATI hasn't released any benchmarks, no prelims, no nothing. Why? They know they don't have anything faster and if they don't let the cat out of the bag to early some of the stupid fanboys will buy one before they see any benches."Nvidiots always want to claim that ATI has poor drivers. Guess what? During testing of the 6800 and the R420, the 6800 had quite a few driver issues. Some major ones to be exact. And the R420? None. This has playd out the same way as the 9700pro vs. the 5800Ultra.The R420 is smaller. Faster. Cheaper. Uses less power. And because of so, will be easier to over-clock. ATI. Good job. Great engineering. Great. Nvidia take a lesson. You don't need all those useless features that won't see the light of day until 2005....

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY WITH DRIVERS!!!! MORON.....SO WHAT IF ATI IS FASTER? YOU HAVE TO SWITCH DRIVERS EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO PLAY!!! I WANT TO PLAY GAMES, NOT PLAY W

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

1 slot solution. Less power hungry. Smaller. Faster in most cases. Better IQ. Better AA. Faster AA. CHEAPER by a estimated $100! The R420 is the card to get. And this is not even the XT version that beat out the Ultra version(6800)

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

ATIDIOT have you seen the reviews with the 6800? They had uber issues with drivers. Not one with the R420. Nice try Nvidiot. That old song and dance about ATI drivers being poor is so laughable that all websites, even the Nvidia biased Tom's Hardware says otherwise. And for a "Way It's Meant To Be Played" game such as FarCry (the game that so-called sports PS3.0) runs slower on Nvidia hardware and had driver and IQ issues. Now that's what you call POOR DRIVERS. Give it up Nvidiot. Can't use the driver excuse anymore. That died the day they brought out the 9700pro.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

ATi's new 4.4 drivers are almost flawless to me. So far, there have been no problems when ive used them. And from what i heard, nVidias drivers are a complete failure. If u take my opinion, id take the good drivers. nVidia drivers are supposed to be better but i think that ATi's are now much better

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

The palin fact that the 800pro version is faster then the 6800Ultra version should make Nvidia cry. Just like ATI has said. The 12 pipeline R420 will be faster then the 16 Pipeline NV40. And it's much smaller and runs cooler and quieter and fits in any pc case.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

i have a question, since the x800 has been released, does this mean the 9800 will come to mobile soon? Thats another thing for all u nVidiots. If nVidia is so good, how come they only have a FX5700 go for a mobile card. ATi already has their 9700 and probably soon to be 9800 too.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

"ATI is releasing the R420 in two different flavors – an X800XT Platinum clocked at 520MHz core and 1120MHz GDDR3 memory. The X800 Pro is clocked at 475/900MHz respectively and has 12 pixel pipelines. Neither card is a slouch and as you’ll see in our benchmarks, there are times when the Pro version even surpasses NVIDIA’s lofty 6800 Ultra. Because of its lowered power consumption and size, these new cards will fit into Small Form Factor PCs – something NVIDIA’s Ultra series cannot currently do because of its extreme power requirements."-GamersDepot.com-"After talking with quite a few top-level developers, all of whom are working on future titles, we’re not thoroughly convinced that SM3.0 will be a must-have feature anytime soon – certainly not of the remainder of 2004."-GamersDepot-Just like everyone has said. PS3.0 will not be a factor until 2005. By then, ALL gpu companies will have support for it."NV40 pleads for mercy with 4xAA and 8xAF turned on - even the "mid-range" X800 Pro beats it in every resolution."-GamersDepot-"What’s interesting to see is how Far Cry is a “Way its meant to be played” (NVIDIA) title, yet performs much better on ATI silicon."-GamersDepot-Just have to go to any website that reviews this card and the results are all the same. R420, 16 pipeline version or the 12 pipeline version wins...

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

Plus, what happens if someone needed the extra pci slot in their mb. (Though im saying, i dont think their is many people who can fill up 6 pci slots -(Standard)-) What happens then? We cant buy the o so wonderful card that is so much crap that it takes TWO slots. What do u do if it wont fit? sacrifice something u need? What if someone had a network card in a pci slot? thats not something u can just take out. (I know, u can buy a new mb, but we're talking about something important) For something like that, u really cant take it out or ur sacrificing lan play and for most gamers, they have something like dsl that uses network cards to attach to the internet

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

"Thanks to its performance advantage when using anisotropic filtering, the Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition shows its rivals who's boss in this discipline without noticeably sacrificing image quality. Even the much less expensive X800 Pro with its 12 pipes can beat the GeForce 6800 Ultra in some game tests. The price difference of about $100 will certainly be an argument that could win over a number of undecided buyers."-TomsHardware-What people are not understanding yet is this. The people who bought a FX card such as the 5900, 5950 or the dreaded 5800 will be in deep doodoo when this generation of PS2.0 games come out in full force. Full PS2.0 compatablity. We all know now that the FX line has poor PS2.0 shader performance and required major optimizations and using lower floating point precsion to run those games on par with ATI's R3xx chips.Now thgis generation and it's almost the same results. Except the NV40 is a great card. The R420 is just better.Nvidia opted for better features this time again and it has failed again. New Technology never get's used in the current generation.

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

I don't want to be an ass, but what the hell.f**k you Nvidiots Hahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaha We won ATI is the best, what now Nvidiots f**kers hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahaahhahahahaahhahahahahahahahahah pause hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheheOK It is mostly out of my system.

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Nvidia to developers " Can you guys please make games that are full PS 3.0 solution"Developers to Nvidia "f**k no bitches"Nvidia to microsoft "can you guys please release DX9.0c sooner"Microsoft to Nvidia "f**k no bitches"

nVidia Boost Clock Speeds Too

Nvidia will be bringing out a higher clocked NV40 from it's partner. A watercooled version at that. But that's sad. They need a water cooled version to beat a single slot solution chip that is normally clcoked? Good job ATI.And how much can you clock the NV40 or even the R420? The maximum clock speed for 0.13 die size is 600MHZ. And considering the NV40 is running 220 million transistors and uses major power to run it, they won't be able to over-clock the chip past 550 without extreme cooling. Can you say dustbuster again. They over-clcoked the R420 to 555MHZ and 1200MHZ memory clock speed without issues. All this on basic cooling! Can you imagine using passive cooling? The over-clcoked NV40 won't help with the numbers shown in the reviews. It has to do with shader performance. And 50MHZ increase in core and Memory will not be a significant jump in speed. It only puts the 6800Ultra on par or beats the 12 pipeline R420 then. Not the R420 high-end part. Look at the over-clock reviews for the test setups at HardOCP.com, Tomshardware.com, GamersDepot.com, Techreport.com, DriversHaven.comATI has stole Nvidia's thunder again. So who's smoking something HALLUNCIGENIC NOW?

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