Our Experts Explain The Likely Reason For The PSN Outage

Sony has issued yet another update regarding the ongoing disconnection of the PlayStation Network, revealing that it is "rebuilding" the whole system.

"We sincerely regret that PlayStation Network and Qriocity services have been suspended, and we are working around the clock to bring them both back online," the official PlayStation blog post reads. "Our efforts to resolve this matter involve re-building our system to further strengthen our network infrastructure. Though this task is time-consuming, we decided it was worth the time necessary to provide the system with additional security."

Based on the info released so far, our experts believe that the PSN security was designed with the assumption that the PlayStation 3 is unhackable and hence the network and its servers trusted all requests that originated from any PlayStation 3. Of course, the PlayStation 3 was hacked and its encryption keys were revealed and it is likely that a hacker has used them to gain unauthorized access to the PlayStation Network and probably to the Marketplace. If this explanation is correct, then it is very reasonable for Sony to shut down the service while it patches the whole communication interface to account for the PlayStation 3 compromise.

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Get a life

Stupid idiots playing your games... Don't you have something better to do? Either way, M$ Windows sucks along with their shitty Xboxes. Microsoft is a pile of shit and Bill Gates f**ks his boyfriend on a pile of your cash. Then he uses your money to buy di*dos. Don't you understand that. I will never give any of my money to M$ or Bill Gates. And I don't bother playing video games because its a waste of time. Yes, I used to play videogames at least 8 hours a day. But then I got RSI and my eyesight has gotten HORRIBLE thanks to videogames. One day, when I can afford Lasik eye surgery I will get it, but I don't want to make the problem even worse. When I was younger my shoulders and neck used to twitch and I was teased because of it. Since I stopped playing videogames all of that ended. I started to invest my time in learning about physics, chemistry and advanced mathematics. I also learned about circuits, and computer systems. I am now attending MIT as a freshman. I am fifteen years old. I sold my PS3 and all 14 of my games. I bought I lenovo ThinkPad and a nice nikon camera instead. Now I get outside more (taking pictures) and have learned to enjoy life more. A psychologist classified my obsessive videogame playing as an addiction. I would often play 14-16 hours a day. Anything not having to do with videogames was uninteresting to me. When my console was taken away from me, I started to do things and make friends. The videogame industry is around because people want to make money. The people that code and develop games might sincerely care about videogames, but the producers, executives, and the people that keep the companies running are all in for the money. Video games are just starting to have budgets close to that of movies. They want your money. On a different topic... Why the f**k are you arguing about what console is the best! Does it really F***king matter! If you have a lot of money to blow ---> PC. If you want a great value and fun time-wasting experiences --> PS3. If you are a n00b, or just buy a system to play with friends that have only this system ---> XBOX. heheh. BUT... the worst of them all is that stupid piece of dog s**t Wii! What a childish moronic system. I would rather play Pokemon Red version than that! The classic NES is better than that! Bring out the Commodore 64 or MS-DOS please somebody! The same goes for PS Move and XBOX Kinect. BTW- Uncharted 1,2, and 3 rock. So does Killzone 2(somewhat) and Killzone 3. Demon's souls is pretty good. The only thing the xbox has is its stupid halo series, gears of war 2 & 3, and forza. You can get Gears 1 on the PC, the same goes for Mass Effect 1,2,& 3. Also the left 4 dead series is on the PC. Get a life, Grow up, and do something other than stare at a random assortment of lighted up Liquid Crystal Displays and Light-emmiting Diodes. They all suck n**ts. Thank you for your time... Michael.

Thanks for your opinion Michael.

I'm sure your subjective opinion is valued by all as a former video game addict who is only 15 years old claiming to be studying science & technology @ one of the most advanced technical schools in the world. @ 15 years old w/a long history of such heavy video gaming activity that you have supposed vision problems & RSI from it you should do well. Surely you must've had no trouble using your vast video game playing knowledge/experience to meet the prerequisite requirements to enter MIT as I'm sure it also provided you w/all the needed resources to advance in physics, chemistry & math.

You truly are a remarkable story. Formerly a useless, worthless self proclaimed video game addict & now, @ a mere 15 years old, ladies & gent's he's a "God" damned fuckin' born again genius!!! Can you believe it?!!!!

Sorry no. I can't. Neither does anyone else. You moron. You know who is a genius, love him or hate him? Bill Gates. I'm hardly a fan of many of Microsoft's business practices or even much of their products, but I use them all the time & so do you. Bill Gates is not only a genius but a visionary, futurist & a philanthropist. Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world only because he has given much of his fortune to charitable causes & has pledged the rest of it to the same end. Bill Gates changed the world in a huge way & changed it for the better. If you don't like it then stop using Windows & throw your computer out've one because there is no fucking way that some arrogant, delusional, retarded 15 year old video game addict who still wastes his time posting a gigantic rant on a video gaming website explaining how "Uncharted & Killzone" rock, could ever be able to do any better.

Show me an industry that does not do what it does to make money, or require money to achieve its goals. Even the biggest altruistic projects ever undertaken require direct & indirect goods & services aquired mostly through monetary means to be accomplished.

Richard Garriot created Ultima Online to fund his space travel endeavors. I don't know about a video game addict like yourself but as much as I love playing video games, not a single one, or the sum of all, could ever be worth one single trip into outer space for me. Computer technology is needed to create space faring vehicles & space faring vehicles are needed to travel into outer space, which is a worthwhile cause. Computers are needed for almost, if not all future advancements in medicine, transportation, automation, clean energy etc. & Bill Gates was/is instrumental in making the future happen for the better. As much as Microsoft pisses me off, credit has to be given where credit is deserved. If you wanna attack someone, attack the Waltons. Attack the Royal Empire. Attack the brainless idiots that will sit in front of their TV's obsessing over the latest "Royal" wedding or Charlie Sheen's mental destruction because their own existence is so worthless.

To each his own bitch. Some people like to surf, some like to have a go @ the outgoing end of anothers digestive system, some like to do drugs & some like to play video games. Your habits were not healthy, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong w/games or gamers. As long as no one is hurting anyone else, directly or indirectly, who the fuck are you to tell anyone to get a life? For some, this is life & it's none of your business. I'd rather be outside riding my bike or boning my GF on a nice sunny day, but when it rains there's nothing wrong w/boning her in the house & then playing a game for a while.

Good luck @ MIT kid. I'd be surprised if you could understand how an incandescent light bulb works. Maybe after you spend 15 years mopping their floors & cleaning their toilets someone like Bill Gates or even the man himself will introduce a robot running Win 28 using Kinect 10 to help (replace) you.

LOL

""I'm sure your subjective opinion is valued by all as a former video game addict who is only 15 years old claiming to be studying science & technology @ one of the most advanced technical schools in the world. @ 15 years old w/a long history of such heavy video gaming activity that you have supposed vision problems & RSI from it you should do well. Surely you must've had no trouble using your vast video game playing knowledge/experience to meet the prerequisite requirements to enter MIT as I'm sure it also provided you w/all the needed resources to advance in physics, chemistry & math. You truly are a remarkable story. Formerly a useless, worthless self proclaimed video game addict & now, @ a mere 15 years old, ladies & gent's he's a "God" damned fuckin' born again genius!!! Can you believe it?!!!! Sorry no. I can't. Neither does anyone else. You moron.""

Haha. I said all of this to make pieces of shit like you mad. The truth is I never had a gaming problem. I was just trying to get people mad on a gaming website because I had finished studying for my finals at MIT and i had nothing better to do. Yes I'm 15 and yes I'm at MIT and NO i don't care if you believe me or not, because well, its true. I know more about computers than you ever will and I could wipe the floor with you and knowledge of anything. I am not a born-again genius. I have been a genius since I was very little. YES I am classified as a genius by psychologists because my IQ is in the top 0.5 percent of the population. Mine is 182 as administered by a school psychologist last year in 12th grade using the Stanford-Binet test. This classifies me far above the "near genius" level and into the "genius" level. own.

""You know who is a genius, love him or hate him? Bill Gates. I'm hardly a fan of many of Microsoft's business practices or even much of their products, but I use them all the time & so do you. Bill Gates is not only a genius but a visionary, futurist & a philanthropist. Bill Gates is no longer the richest man in the world only because he has given much of his fortune to charitable causes & has pledged the rest of it to the same end. Bill Gates changed the world in a huge way & changed it for the better.""

You obviously don't know anything about Bill Gates. He is nothing close to a genius and he didn't make any of the code for any of HIS "innovations" for well over two decades. His major accomplished include Altair BASIC (MS BASIC) and 86-DOS, along with his contributions through teamwork with IBM. He later severed his teamwork with IBM so that he could grow a monopoly. Gates's role at Microsoft for most of its history was primarily a management and executive role. However, he was an active software developer in the early years, particularly on the company's programming language products. He has not officially been on a development team since working on the TRS-80 Model 100, but wrote code as late as 1989 that shipped in the company's products. PWN. He is a philanthropist? maybe, but that is criticized because the Bill & Melinda Gates "Charity" Foundation invests in assets that it has not yet distributed with the exclusive goal of maximizing return on investment. Its investments include companies that have been charged with worsening poverty in the same developing countries where the Foundation is attempting to relieve poverty. These include companies that pollute heavily, and pharmaceutical companies that do not sell into the developing world.

Since free operating systems provide strong competition to Windows, which is a non free OS, Microsoft tries to force users not to choose an operating system by creating a market where most computers shipped from OEMs come with Windows preinstalled, and by secretly agreeing with OEMs by means of rebates, to make it very hard to receive a Windows refund.

The Findings of Fact in the United States Microsoft antitrust case established that "One of the ways Microsoft combats piracy is by advising OEMs that they will be charged a higher price for Windows unless they drastically limit the number of PCs that they sell without an operating system pre-installed. In 1998, all major OEMs agreed to this restriction."[30] This has been called the "Windows tax" or "Microsoft tax".

Microsoft has acquired several companies and products during its history, including some that competed with earlier Microsoft products. Such acquired assets include DOS (Seattle Computer Products QDOS), FrontPage (Vermeer Technologies Incorporated FrontPage), WebTV (now MSN TV), Hotmail, Direct3D, Internet Explorer (Spyglass, Inc. Mosaic), Visio (Visio Corporation Visio), Windows Virtual PC (Connectix Virtual PC), and Windows Defender (GIANT Company Software, Inc. GIANT AntiSpyware). Microsoft rebrands the primary products of the companies it acquires, and in many cases offers them for free or bundles them with their operating system. Former Sun Microsystems chief executive Scott McNealy occasionally remarked that Microsoft never produced technology except by buying it: "R&D [research and development] and M&A [mergers and acquisitions] are the same thing over there."An acquisition nearly took place in 1995 when Microsoft announced its intent to conduct a hostile takeover of Intuit, Inc., the maker of Quicken, which competed with its own product Microsoft Money. After a campaign by attorney Gary Reback and complaints to the Federal Trade Commission, Microsoft eventually dropped the takeover plans.
Bill Gates was also brought to court because of an Anti-Trust litigation. Despite Gates's denials, the judge ruled that Microsoft had committed MONOPOLIZATION and TYING, and BLOCKING COMPETITION, BOTH IN VIOLATION of the Sherman Antitrust Act.

Bill Gates sucks! Plus he believes we should raise income taxes on the rich (250k+ annually). It's easy to say that when he will not be affected. Yes he is rich, but he makes most of his money through investments, rather than regular income like a paying job. The money he makes though investments is only taxed 15%! (Capital gains tax) while my parents are taxed 38% of their paycheck! You are probably with bill gates on this issue because you have a mental handicap, but, whatever. Oh and once this country becomes a socialist dictatorship and we have government healthcare, people will decide whether to keep us alive or kill us off when we are elderly. Such a system often called a "death board" is something that Bill Gates supports and has made speeches about.

""If you don't like it then stop using Windows & throw your computer out've one because there is no fucking way that some arrogant, delusional, retarded 15 year old video game addict who still wastes his time posting a gigantic rant on a video gaming website explaining how "Uncharted & Killzone" rock, could ever be able to do any better.""

I think you know by now that I do NOT use windows. Oh and I only wrote this because I was done studying for my finals and was bored, so me and my friends at MIT tried to fool around with people on the netz and make them angry! lol we hit the jackpot with you! Don't believe me? I dont care, its the truth. I actually never had a ps3 soo....

""Show me an industry that does not do what it does to make money, or require money to achieve its goals. Even the biggest altruistic projects ever undertaken require direct & indirect goods & services aquired mostly through monetary means to be accomplished. Richard Garriot created Ultima Online to fund his space travel endeavors. I don't know about a video game addict like yourself but as much as I love playing video games, not a single one, or the sum of all, could ever be worth one single trip into outer space for me.""

What's your point, industry is good and keeps jobs. I just dont like bill gates monopolization and tying which PREVENTS INNOVATION and supports companies that pollute and make poverty worse in developing countries. I also don't like it when companies like Nike use SLAVE LABOR to make their products.

""Computer technology is needed to create space faring vehicles & space faring vehicles are needed to travel into outer space, which is a worthwhile cause. Computers are needed for almost, if not all future advancements in medicine, transportation, automation, clean energy etc.""

Yes computer technology is needed. Finally you are starting to make some sense in that big hollow head of yours.

""& Bill Gates was/is instrumental in making the future happen for the better. As much as Microsoft pisses me off, credit has to be given where credit is deserved.""

I guess I was wrong :( Bill gates didn't do much to make the future happen for the better. The good ol' guys at Bell labs did a pretty fuckin fantastic job at making the Transistor and early programming languages. Also, most of the stuff developed by NASA, and also The US Dept. of Defence (DoD) made what is possible today and in the future. Good old internets and TCP/IP protocols buy the guys in the Dod... All bill gates did was make people hate computers... LOL

""If you wanna attack someone, attack the Waltons. Attack the Royal Empire. Attack the brainless idiots that will sit in front of their TV's obsessing over the latest "Royal" wedding or Charlie Sheen's mental destruction because their own existence is so worthless.""

I do agree. People are so fuckin stupid. People nowadays are obsessed with stupid sports like basketball and football and nascar and they listen to their dump rap and hip-hop shit. People don't appreciate the finer things in life and well, basically, it is the degeneration of people today (in western civilization). Talking trash and cursing all of the time. Stupid gangs and punks who think their so f*ing tough. Lets see how they'd fare against a guided nuclear missile developed by "us geeks" dropped right on their doorstep. Or how a big jock with steroid pumped abs would do against 6 shots from a .44 magnum or a .50 cal machine gun.

""To each his own bitch. ""

Okay.....

""Some people like to surf, some like to have a go @ the outgoing end of anothers digestive system, some like to do drugs & some like to play video games.""

It's great that you finally figured out this fact of life with your pea-brain. good job!

""Your habits were not healthy, but that doesn't mean there's anything wrong w/games or gamers. As long as no one is hurting anyone else, directly or indirectly, who the fuck are you to tell anyone to get a life?""

I told you it was a joke. who the fuck am i? you don't know and i wont tell you :P

""For some, this is life & it's none of your business. I'd rather be outside riding my bike or boning my GF on a nice sunny day, but when it rains there's nothing wrong w/boning her in the house & then playing a game for a while.""

I doubt you bone anybody other than your dog. Or your cat if your dog's pussy is too big for you.

""Good luck @ MIT kid. I'd be surprised if you could understand how an incandescent light bulb works.""

Actually i do. Its pretty simple. I don't know how detailed you want me to explain it but is consists of a glass enclosure (the bulb) with a tungsten filament wire inside the bulb, through which the electric current goes through. Contact wires and a base with two conductors provide electrical connections to the filament. The bulb is filled with an noble gas such as Argon to reduce evaporation and prevent oxidation of the filament. I don't know how much more you want to know. But I doubt you even knew as much as I told you.

""Maybe after you spend 15 years mopping their floors & cleaning their toilets someone like Bill Gates or even the man himself will introduce a robot running Win 28 using Kinect 10 to help (replace) you. ""

You are really getting annoying i thought this would be fun... Anyway i will not be mopping their floors i actually already work at a local restaurant in cambridge, ma every so often to make some extra bucks. And if you want to know my goal, it is to become a physicist. I am already studying physics here and I know that physicists daily work doesn't include such a chore (maybe your job does?) I doubt there will be a Win 28 or a Kinect 10, just sayin'. Oh and I am sorry for any grammatical or spelling errors that i may have typed because I could already see somebody like you using that against me, even though it was due to me typing at a faster-than-normal pace. (Hopefully I wont) See you later!

Get a life

Stupid idiots playing your games... Don't you have something better to do? Either way, M$ Windows sucks along with their shitty Xboxes. Microsoft is a pile of shit and Bill Gates f**ks his boyfriend on a pile of your cash. Then he uses your money to buy di*dos. Don't you understand that. I will never give any of my money to M$ or Bill Gates. And I don't bother playing video games because its a waste of time. Yes, I used to play videogames at least 8 hours a day. But then I got RSI and my eyesight has gotten HORRIBLE thanks to videogames. One day, when I can afford Lasik eye surgery I will get it, but I don't want to make the problem even worse. When I was younger my shoulders and neck used to twitch and I was teased because of it. Since I stopped playing videogames all of that ended. I started to invest my time in learning about physics, chemistry and advanced mathematics. I also learned about circuits, and computer systems. I am now attending MIT as a freshman. I am fifteen years old. I sold my PS3 and all 14 of my games. I bought I lenovo ThinkPad and a nice nikon camera instead. Now I get outside more (taking pictures) and have learned to enjoy life more. A psychologist classified my obsessive videogame playing as an addiction. I would often play 14-16 hours a day. Anything not having to do with videogames was uninteresting to me. When my console was taken away from me, I started to do things and make friends. The videogame industry is around because people want to make money. The people that code and develop games might sincerely care about videogames, but the producers, executives, and the people that keep the companies running are all in for the money. Video games are just starting to have budgets close to that of movies. They want your money. On a different topic... Why the f**k are you arguing about what console is the best! Does it really F***king matter! If you have a lot of money to blow ---> PC. If you want a great value and fun time-wasting experiences --> PS3. If you are a n00b, or just buy a system to play with friends that have only this system ---> XBOX. heheh. BUT... the worst of them all is that stupid piece of dog s**t Wii! What a childish moronic system. I would rather play Pokemon Red version than that! The classic NES is better than that! Bring out the Commodore 64 or MS-DOS please somebody! The same goes for PS Move and XBOX Kinect. BTW- Uncharted 1,2, and 3 rock. So does Killzone 2(somewhat) and Killzone 3. Demon's souls is pretty good. The only thing the xbox has is its stupid halo series, gears of war 2 & 3, and forza. You can get Gears 1 on the PC, the same goes for Mass Effect 1,2,& 3. Also the left 4 dead series is on the PC. Get a life, Grow up, and do something other than stare at a random assortment of lighted up Liquid Crystal Displays and Light-emmiting Diodes. They all suck n**ts. Thank you for your time... Michael.

I love how...

I love how a lot of console owners #1 line of argument is that * I can hook up to a nice big TV * yeah just to let all you console owning fan boys know you can RF-F type, VGA/XVGA/SVGA, composite, component DIV-i/d or HDMI to a TV from a PC! just pointing that out. and don't give me any crap about * well you have to buy a $300 card* If you know how to change settings on games and adjust, you can buy a $90 card that runs anything.

PC for the win, console are nothing more then....well junk to get every 12 year old that can cry and talk shit, on the internet. You hear about one 12 year old everyone 4,000,000 online matches you play online with PC.

How can anyone say "consoles

How can anyone say "consoles are (or will be) better than PCs"? todays consoles are just PCs with a specialised operating system thats dedicated to gaming. Im sure that with the right knowledge, you could make an operating system for a ps3 or xbox that would be just like windows. The fact that the processors for all 3 consoles (wii ps3 and xbox) were made by IBM shows that the pc industry has been (and will be) leading all the time.
Xbox and wii both used ATI GPUs which is owned by AMD, a company dedicated to making PC processors. PS3 uses a nVidia GPU, nVidia make processors for multimedia, gaming and super computers, all based around PCs.
Infact xboxes are pretty much identical to pcs once you get inside them, they have RAM, CPU, GPU (with GDDR RAM) hard drive, CD/DVD drive, SATA controller, PSU, input devices (USB)and an OS to make it all work, all of which you will find in PCs.
And it doesnt just stop at consoles, if you open an LCD TV you will find a CPU (with RAM) on the main board controlling everything, GPU (with GDDR)on the T-CON controlling the screen, PSU (or SMPS), flash memory (instead of HDD) for the OS (or firmware at least), USB, Ethernet.
Its the same story for BD players except they are controlled entirely by a GPGPU, they even have big heatsink and fans just like pcs have needed for the past 20 years.
PCs arn't just leading the gaming industry, they are leading the whole of the electronics world and always will be.

A bit of proper information...

You don't seem to realize what makes a machine a PC. Its not the presence of cpu/ram/gpu etc per se. PCs are just electronic devices that use a certain architecture, that's the x86 architecture, x64 is just a clone of x86 with more bandwidth and larger cpu registers. Basically, your tv isn't a PC because its not x86. That's why you can't install windows or vanilla linux (I say vanilla because linux can be modded to suit different architectures) on your tv, BD, xbox, PS3 and so on. What you describe as PCs leading the electronics industry is wrong, it's just the move from electronics to smart electronics but without the PC architecture (hence, not PCs). As an example, a supercomputer is not a pc, everyone knows that. But why not? If you actually read about it, several of them are built with regular parts used in PCs such as AMD's opteron processors (which you can buy anywhere and put in your PC). What makes them supercomputers then? Oh yea you guessed it, the vast amount of processors and the architecture they are built on such as the hypercube architecture.

Last time I checked...

PC stood for "Personal Computer" & has nothing to do w/ architecture or OS's, but then again, I'm not a moron like you.

The point of the whole argument (that was started after an article about the PSN hacking?) is that all of the leading "smart devices" are smart because of the advancement of PC technology, & that's true. Same goes for your super computer example that you confirmed w/your own statement. If I wanted & could afford to build my own super computer, it would be a PC, my own PERSONAL multi-CPU COMPUTER. Laptops, smart phones, tablets, PDAs & calculators are all PCs because they are PERSONAL devices that "determine by calculation". Not because of anything to do w/architechture.

Im not really up to date on

Im not really up to date on the modding side of consoles as i dont own 1. I guessed some ppl had modified existing OS's but im not sure if they have gone as far as to make a "windows-like" OS. The closest iv got to console mods is changing the firmware on xbox dvd drives and using a wiimote on the pc lol

to all who think M$ aint got

to all who think M$ aint got problems, they have had downtimes on their networks also and dont fortet their Big attacks on their hotmail servers, they have had their fair part of troubles and all Windows versions are hackers sikte quickly and ofthen prior to launch, game goes for their consoles, they are hacked quickly. So stfu remote cakes...

pcs have nothing to do with this!

Pcs have nothing to do with this article.

ummm PCs are exepensive (if you want to play a good game with good graphics that are the same as the xbox 360).

PC will die in the gaming industry until graphic cards and ram/cpu are cheap! I can play gears of war, crysis2 forza 3 on a massive tv in HD...but it if i wanted to play a game on a big lcd with as same graphics with say x2AA or better (higher screen res) it would cost me a LOT of cash. PC is sying because it cost so much and every game is not going to work the same as it does on a console. JUst waut till the new xbox console or ps3...both woth 1080p im sure and x8AA....pcs will be dead with more advance consoles. $200 gets me HD graphics, gears of war 2, crysis 2, forza 3 etc...$200 and a LCD size of my choice. no slowdown no graphic issues.

Oh you think the PC gaming industry is gonna die?

Think about it tit-head some games have Graphics which are available only to the PC the consoles which you can hook up a bloody pc to a tv.A lot of cash you kidding what the bloody hell are you smoking? Every time your consoles obsolete you just end up buying a new one and guess what's one step ahead in graphics? The PC the new xbox console will have it's limits so will the new sony consoles in the end you will have to admit that upgrading a PC is cheaper than buying consoles all you need is to change the graphics card and the processor every now and then genius. Unless your just a moron who doesn't know anything about video games. Haven't you already heard that the PC itself will be the future of gaming as the consoles themselves will have their limits reached every 2-3 years. Oh and by the way you uneducated dimwit spell expensive and learn to use grammar correctly. Instead of embarrassing your sorry little ass in here.

No it won't die...

I'm a pc gamer and you sir fail horribly at maths and computers. Just getting a new almost top of the line GPU runs you the full cost of a console. A new high end CPU isnt that cheap either, and no you can't just upgrade those two, motherboards have limits, sooner or later you'll need a new one just so you can upgrade your CPU further, then there's more memory once in a while and an SSD (those get upgrades from time to time too) if you're really looking for performance. I like PCs, I am aware that they are far more expensive than consoles. But I went to college and thus, have a job that pays well. So I can afford my hobbies and living, PCs are expensive, that's why most PC gamers are adults while most consoles gamers are kids. There's no need to be delusional and claim PCs are cheap, they're better and far more versatile, that justifies the extra costs.

Let me guess..

you studied "culinary arts" or something dumb like that @ college?

What makes you think that just because something newer & faster gets released for desktop PCs every month that it's necessary to go out & buy it to play current and future games? The desktop PC tech available when consoles are released is enough to run anything that runs on those consoles. Brainless morons like you go around making stupid statements based on the customization & scalability in most PC games rather than what it takes to get the same experience provided by a console.

Just because a new game on the PC has the ability to take advantage of new DX 11 features & texture sizes requiring 1 GB of VRAM etc. doesn't mean it has to run w/those features to be enjoyed, & definitely does not mean it needs to utilize such things to look & play as good or better than on an obsolete console that can't take advantage of such features.

You are one of those buttnuts that assumes a console game automatically implements all the features available on the same PC game & you are wrong.

I paid less than $200 for my Radeon 4850 whenever it was the latest & almost greatest some years ago. I paid less than that for my Core 2 Duo @ the same time & much much less for the 2GB of RAM still in it. The OCZ RAM was about $50. I have not yet played a game that won't run flawlessly & fast, maxed out @ 1280x1024 w/4xAA & 4XAF, and I play a lot. Fallout 3 (which looked way better on my PC than on my friends Shitbox 360) Crysis, FC2, Bioshock, Oblivion, Metro 2033 etc. All the biggies, all maxed, all flawless. My dirt cheap ASUS P5Q mobo still has loads of expandability remaining that has not yet been needed thanks solely to the console market negating the need for faster hardware. PC games don't move ahead until the console world permits it & that doesn't happen until the next gen' drops.

When the next gen' does drop, sooner rather than later they will all already be obsolete as they always are. Then the people that have fast PCs from 1-2 years ago might finally be able to take advantage of their investment. You are delusional one if you think that @ that point it will be necessary for PC gamers to run out & buy the newest & fastest hardware @ that time just to play the next console gen' of games.

One console maker will resort to a new assembly of already obsolete computer technology to try & get ahead of the other console competitors & then the rest will follow. Nintendo has taken that step this time. Microsoft will be next & Sony will have no choice but to either follow, just like w/motion control or do the world a favor & die.

When you know what to buy, where to buy it & how to run it, a PC is not expensive & it provides unequalled versatility & capability. My very very obsolete PC has no trouble running anything because I keep it lean, clean & mean. No unnecessary background programs, no viruses, no spyware or adware, no bullshit. A yearly format cures any software related issues & ensures that the hardware performs maximally. Unless you're retarded, a more than capable gaming PC can be had for $500 (CDN) & can be hooked up to any display & any sound system.

HD video is just a resolution by the way, which PCs have been capable of for decades.

Are you someone that buys your PC from a department store? Learn what to buy & where to buy it. Go to a decent computer shop & build a real system for next to nothing because nothing, beats the power of a PC. So "Bite me" (CAPTCHA).

O rly?

XBOX 360:

XBOX console - $300
Extra controller - $40-$50
WiFi adapter - $75
Live Gold Account - $60
HDMI cable (that doesn't suck)- $20+
Wireless headset - $35

TOTAL: Approx. $500 to $630

Decent (but not perfect) Gaming PC:

DVD drive - $20 (Or a Bluray drive - $60)
Tower case - $40
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB hard drive - $45
ASRock M3A770DE AM3 Motherboard - $60
XFX Radeon HD 4850 1GB - $90
Antec EA-500D 500W power supply - $60
4GB RAM - $45
AMD Phenom II X2 555 3.2GHz - $90
Samsung B2030 20-Inch monitor - $120
Altec Lansing BXR1221 2.1 Speakers - $30

TOTAL: Approx. $600 to $645 with more flexibility and power than a 360

Go home junior, it's past your bedtime...run along.

Microsft has more experience

Microsft has more experience and will never be in the sitaution Sony is. There is that saying, you get what you pay for. Xboxlive is always a flawless service and its simple to work and play games with friends.

I dont use the psn even if its free..I play the xbox and use the live service and my $10 a month goes to much more than just online play.

Sony concertrate to much of there cash on advertising but never an actual live service like xbox live.

Try to remember PSN is free and money and services will always be less important to PSN. Also Microsoft have experince as they are a software company and a big company overall in the field.

HA!

This is great I'm just adding fuel to the fire. I can care less what any one things. I just want to pick something and ignite. My idea of fun is to set someone in rage and piss on their day. Feel free to burn back. Its fun.

PC = win win win

issue? fix it yourself, cure... job done.

In plain English, consoles... you can not fix anything... PC = the world really is your oyster... provided you got the resources to do so... console breaks down, or their silly networks... you just gotta be patient or buy a PC and play proper games.

Also for those who claim PC games for being crappy and poor quality or slow or blocky or not working properly, stop buying cheap parts (and buy a proper windows licence)... and get a proper pc, PS3 and Xbox 360 costed £400+ (at launch) for a reason and both parties were losing money for a reason per console, so don't be spending less than £700 on a PC before you start comparing quality of game play, as without looking at the whole picture, you just sound like a retard complaining about this and that with your eyes closed.

Oh and graphics wise, consoles are really LOW resolution based and also do not need to work hard at various resolutions, therefore allowing for optimised textures, whereas PC games need to cater for resolutions anywhere from 640x480 up to over 2500x2500, ^^ anyway you get the gist now so hope your more educated after reading this ^^. please stop moaning.

OP = lose lose lose / FIX IT YOURSELF

Now for the second part of my reply. To begin with, console networks aren't silly, they're huge server farms spread across several countries that rival their PC counterparts (steam and gamespy). Now to make things clear, it doesn't matter what you, me or anyone thinks about steam nor gamespy. They are the two largest gaming networks for the PC, end of story. You said fix pc issues by yourself, so if a network like steam or gamespy goes down how are you going to fix it? You're not. If your gpu burns down (RRoD)? As a pc user you can get a new one for a hefty price as a console user you can get a free repair. And when you get a virus? If you suck at using pcs you'll use an antivirus or format your hd, if you use a console you don't get those. If your games are running slower than they should because you have no idea how to keep your machine running at top efficiency (even though you think you do), you can format your hd, it'll get you back to 100%, consoles are always running as smooth as they can. Consoles break down? I beg to differ, I still have my atari 2600, my nes, snes, n64, GC, PS2 and XBOX running as good as new. They're long lasting pieces of equipment if you know how to care for them (manufacturing defects aside, those should be replaced/fixed anyway and have always existed). When it comes to comparing pc and console performances the truth is what most don't realize (surprise!) or don't want to admit. Consoles are faster and deliver more quality than a pc with the same hardware. Why? because consoles are specialized machines, they are built and optimized to run games, they don't have to be compatible with any other kind of console. PC's are general purpose machines, they are meant to do an infinity of different tasks, they have to be compatible with different pcs so they can run the same software and that's why they are not optimized for anything in particular. When I say optimized I mean both hardware and software optimizations. PC's can only get optimized software and thats not enough to keep up with specialized hardware. Nowadays pcs are much faster than the current gen of consoles, therefore they can deliver more quality while displaying the same kind of performance. But pcs can't compete with consoles on equal grounds (same hardware specs, same games). That's how it is and how it has always been since the nes days. Now you are supposed to feel educated, this is real knowledge and not just crap spouted by a teenager (OP).

OP = lose lose lose / RESOLUTION

While I am a pc gamer and it is by far my favorite platform, I have to ask you to shut the hell up. If anyone feels more educated after reading your post, they should quickly try to forget it because its crap, so I'm splitting this reply into 2 posts, this one is about resolution. You don't seem to even know what resolution means, consoles have optimized textures? God, you are as dumb as they come, too bad you seem to consider yourself smart. Let me educate YOU properly in the BASICS of resolution. There are 2 types of resolution when talking about a 3d scene, the display resolution and the rendering resolution. The first is the resolution your monitor/TV is set to which could be anywhere between 640x480 to 2560x2048. The second is the resolution at with the 3d is rendered at, again it can be anywhere between 640x480 to 2560x2048, if it's lower than the display resolution then it gets stretched to fit the display resolution, we call that upscaling and it improves performance at the cost of visual quality. Then we have textures, they are 2d images (just like a picture from a digital camera) and as such have their own resolutions. Normally they are anywhere between 64x64 to 1024x1024. The higher the texture resolution, the more gpu memory it uses. Then we have bump maps(outdated), normal maps, relief maps and other variations, their purpose is to create an illusion of depth in 2d textures. That gives us fake (but believable) depth without increasing the geometry of objects and characters, they are 2d images as well, have resolutions and use up gpu memory just like textures. To sum it up, there is no such thing as an optimized texture. The greater the resolution the better it'll look (assuming you don't upscale the texture from its original size), also texture compression lowers memory usage but sacrifices quality but its worth it. Consoles have limited gpu memory so they can't handle big textures like modern pc gpu's, a recent example of that is Dragon Age 2, bioware was kind enough to release a high res texture pack for pc's, so you can compare the quality of the characters clothing between pc and consoles. After that try saying consoles have optimized textures...

I would agree that the pc

I would agree that the pc format is better for quite a few games i love playing rts on the pc which is poor on consoles, the pc is not as convienient and cheap as turning on a ps3 hooked up to a nice big tv. with ps3 xbox you can turn it and then just play. not have to wait for it to boot, not find where in the room the mouse has ran off to. maybe the controler but i found my mouse turns up in some strange places.. hell you can even use iplayer 40d and other streaming services like love film on the PS3(in the uk) which means that there is less reason for the pc.. and you can play splitscreen cod with out having to lug a hefty box around which means more zombie killing with your mate without the hastle of lugging a pc or being a complete loner playing over the net with someone called igotabigmember23, just take a controller, likewise for a graphics card with enough beef behind it you are talking around £200+ and with sli or crossfire you will pay double that then you still need to get a mobo and everything else, so at least £700 for a ok gaming pc but to be safe you are talking 1k, for that you could get a ps3 and a reasonable 40+ tv with a few games, you will not have to upgrade a few years down the line just to play a game as the ps3 has a good 4 to 5 years left in it. allthough only running at 1080p or mainly 720p on the console it is consistant and will work out of the box there are a lot of games which are poor ports on the pc gta in my mind which is allways a good example of this, there are a lot of bad ports and run like a heap of shit even with a decent spec pc, hell there are some older games which ran fine in XP but shit under win7, yes graphics do often look better on the pc and the whole playing a game at higher then 1080p resolutions is good but at the end of the day gaming isn't about graphics, and most adverage people want to be able to play, likewise you buy a game on steam and your stuck with it for life or when valve go bust or whatever a console you can trade it in.

Why do you bother?

Who the fuck is supposed to take anything of value from all that jibberish?

Ignorance is bliss right bud? Have fun w/your 4-5 year PS3 future & hard copy game trade-ins that're gonna last forever.

Consoles will beat pc in the gaming area

Consoles will, the games are looking better..look at crysis 2 on the xbox! gears of war 2, forza 3 the list goes on! it wont be long until the new xbox and playstation is out..well xbox first. the newer consoles will be what roughly $500 with mucg better graphics, HD x8AA etc....pcs hold everyone back because not everyone can have a good powerd pc to play games...thats the pc real problem.

Seriously kid,

Go to school.

Actually nevermind, I'll take you right now.

"Look @ Crysis 2"? What's to see? Nothing compared to Crysis 1, which you know nothing about 'cuz it was only released on the PC. It was only released on the PC because that's all that could run it the way it was meant to be.

HD video is nothing more than a display resolution standard which is much lower than PCs have been capable of for decades & 8XAA is the same story. New to you is antique to us.

You have the situation backwards. PC games don't advance because the obsolete consoles won't let them. Game devs couldn't charge $60-$70 for a game if a better version were available on the PC for $50. It's easier just to port the shitty console version to the PC & make what they'll make off of it.

The PC will get more sophisticated games when the next gen' of obsolete consoles comes around, which will be soon.

Although I'm not a fan of DRM because of CDN download restrictions & the ridiculous prices despite all the reduced or eliminated production/distribution overhead & capital costs, it is the way of the future. Disc versions of games will die on all platforms. It is a better system when done right.

A $500 PC is far more hardware than needed to run any currently available games @ a console level or better. I paid $500 over 3 years ago for my system & it runs everything maxed w/no probs. If you know what you're doing, & it doesn't take much to know, then a cheap, hard hitting PC is very easy to do.

I'm sorry that you don't know what you're doing, but don't worry 'cuz you're not the only one.

Uh no...

This is why PC users are able to customize the graphic settings. Which allows my wife 7 year old rig to run the newer games, but with lowered settings. So no, the PC isn't holding anything back. Also x8AA has been on the PC like for ages now. LOL, Stupid kids...

Don't be pissy

When someone pisses in "your" Cheerios, "you" become the loser? I don't think so....don't blame Sony for pouring themself a new bowl, but let us hope they wash the bowl first.................

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wow sony suck ass as usual, biggest waste of money i have ever spent. I don't feal sorry for the retards other then my self that bought a ps3, should have known better.

Just to let you know

Maybe down in your area. I'm on every day maybe 2 days out of the week i wont be, I never seen it down unless it was down one of those days i was not on. check your router configuration might be off.

Yea

Yea you never hear Nintendo having problems, but the Xbox had that ring but its been resolved. PS3 on the other hand a whole new story. And PC got their own stuff.

red ring fixed huh.....wow

red ring fixed huh.....wow what a fanboy statement. that other guy is right live was down for 2 weeks months ago and wait didnt just recently some big wigs account on live get hacked and personal info was released....now if they can do that to his account, what about yours? so sony shut down PSN to keep peoples personal info safe while they fixed things.....that seems better thatn micro$oft with doing nothing to keep paying customers safe on live......nuff said.

Just because one Idiot (you)

Just because one Idiot (you) out of many got screwed that don't mean others do, and a product crapped on your parade it don't mean it sucks. We all hit factory screw-ups one time or another. Get a bitching PC if it takes a crap on you at least you can fix it. By bitching i mean not cheep.

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what you are stating that sony security sucks if any one can get it from what you are saying. And for the down time on live, well you must have been the only one. I'm not defending anyone and from the sounds of it you are the fan boy. I cloud not care less. I would not support any of them.

fanboy? why cause i stated

fanboy? why cause i stated facts? Not just in my area. No my reply was to inform people that all sides Micro$oft and Sony have their faults in security. So before you make a statement calling someone a fanboy cause of facts stop to think before you write

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