Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

The first people to have had a look at the new Playstation 3 in action and that can comment on their experience, have spoken and they claim that quality is not that of the Killzone video but is certainly of the same level as the MGS 4 movie recently shown. We are warned however that very few developers will be able to reach MGS4 levels and even they will have to wait some time before they are familiar enough with the machine to reach that kind of visual excellence.

Now that most developers have received their final PS3 development kits, website Kikizo has managed to sneak into some of them and offer us a peek at the machine that will challenge XBox 360 for next-generation supremacy. The account provided by the people that tried the new Playstation games is, unfortunately, a very vague one and provides basic information which most of us suspected but it does offer some insight and a straightforward, if diplomatic, comparison of the two new systems by a developer.

So we are told not to expect visuals of the same quality as the Killzone video showcased at last year's E3 but that the titles witnessed by the Kikizo journalist, are truly worthy of the next-gen tag.
In a diplomatic comparison of the two next-generation consoles, the Kikizo source states: ...the Xbox 360 and PS3 are same-generation machines. One doesn't have additional effects over the other - 360 can do the same effects, just not as many of them simultaneously and with less geometry [because of the speed difference], but memory bottlenecks can kill part of the PS3 speed advantage anyway... the overall visual difference it makes will depend a lot on the developer's skill, and how much time and money the publisher spends on a game. So Sony's console won't have extra tricks up its sleeve it will just be able to do more of them at the same time.

Since the versions of the games witnessed by the journalists are not final we are told that some improvements are expected especially since no Blu-Ray drives or controllers were included in the SDKs used. This latter fact also suggests that there may be some basis to the rumors of a possible failure by Sony to launch its new console this spring.

Whatever changes are made to the hardware however, we are told that Sony will not be able to meet its initial target of 1080p Full HD that it had originally set and will instead deliver 720p and will upscale it or allow the new TVs to do so. This, apparently, will save CPU cycles and will save gamers from the dreaded loss of frame rate.

So when will we get to play it? Kikizo's source claims: We think that in Japan it will most likely release during Summer, Q4 in the US, and Europe in Winter or Spring 2007 - these are our internal projections.

So there you have it PS3 will probably be delayed in the U.S. while the experience has left Kikizo staff with a feeling of disappointment since the PS3 is unlikely to reach the level of visual quality suggested by E3 2005. Still expect PS3 titles to continually improve as developers become more familiar with the hardware and hopefully, as Sony begins to provide them with actual consoles.

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Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

Anonymousat 9:23 18/2/2006Anti-Noobat 23:13 17/2/2006And I supose your right. After all, I am sure you also major in circuitry----------Wow, so what?Playstation 3 is still a year in development.The specifications aren't concrete.You don't own the system.You don't have the system.You've never seen the system up-close.You know as much about it as any other fanboy of Sony. Don't try to pull degrees out of your ass.--------------------------------ha ha, this is funny.... it can all be settled by what this guy is saying.... no one will know... for all we know sony could have some new hardware changes. ithink the posts should end here... otherwise there is no point........ (of course that will never happen)

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

Sony has some surprices up its sleeves. Hardware specs are changing as we speak. All of you will be impressed-even those die hard xbox360 owners will DRoOl when they see whats in store for Mankind. The next generation gaming will soon be unleashed too mankind until than save your pennies.Stay Clean an Clear of the xbox360.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

the so called demos like killzone2 were actaully in real time, but the frame rate was just sped up, so it can handle all the lighting, shaders, textures etc... so what they are doing is lowering a few high intensities to make it run like butta, i hope is still looks as good as they say it does.. unless the hardware has gotten better by now..

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Anonymousat 23:7 18/2/2006Your demostrating the well below average IQ of a newborn baby.Let him have the "freedom" of speech and do what all you d**kheads did with the xbox and 360 etc...support it!! Or is 360 fans that secretly scared??

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

First of all, Sony will not suddenly change PS3's hardware spec. Why? Needs money. And lotsa money.Honestly, all consoles are over-hype, over-hype and over-hype (Anyone still remember PS2's so call 'fluid-rendering system?'?). All my consoles are gathering dust in a corner of my home now. Starting from NES till X-box.I don't care about any 'next-gen console'. I only care about Enemy Territory: Quake War (do a google search to find what it is).Good night.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

To 'teh truthat 4:50 16/2/2006Well least its proven it will do better Unreal 07 graphics than PC :). 'With little tweaking, even Ut 2007 will looks nice in most mid-end PC... Do a search b'fore posting.Not to mention playing FPS game with a gamepad is gay.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

"With little tweaking, even Ut 2007 will looks nice in most mid-end PC... Do a search b'fore posting"Erm... Offical Playstation interview with the people making Unreal saying that some maps wont be on the pc as it'll be too much to handle...YOU go do ya research you idiot!

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

How do you know PS3 will rule the console wars. Also by the time the PS3 is released, the R600 and G80 will be released. Considering the fact that the R500 and R580(XTX1900XTX)is more advanced then the G70 inside the PS3, you can figure out that these NEW gpu'S WILL BE EVEN MORE POWERFUL. Also, 2 high-end GPU's runng in SLI or Crossfire will out run anything the PS3 has to offer.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

teh truth, you are trying to tell us a system running a Dual FX-60 AMD chipset with two gigs of DDR2 RAM running two 7800GTX 512MEG crads or two XTX1900XTX 512MEG cards in SLI or crossfire cannot handle Unreal 2007 maps like the PS3? You're kidding right? You're trying to pull a fast one on us right? Buddy, that setup alone will run Unreal 2007 at Frame rates above 70fps at 1600x1200 or 2056+ You thnik the PS3 can do that at 1080 resolutuion WITH Full scene Anti-alaising enabled? Good luck. It can't and wont. The game will be programed like almost all the others for the PS3 in 720 resolution. With that PC setup, you can run it with 6xAA and 14xFSAA. Something the PS3 can never do.

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billat 18:14 19/2/2006Sorry your oviously the one making the game and know how it can run on the PS3. What?! YOUR NOT MAKING THE GAME!?Then SHUT THE f**k UP, then if someone says the PEOPLE actualy MAKING it, say THIS STUFF!! DEAL WITH IT!!!!

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

Based on Hardware specs alone the ps3 has already won the battle. Being able to fully support linux as an operating system having built in wifi ports, hdmi ports for hidef monitors and oodles of other ports for memory cards for digital cameras i'd say just by that the console is far superior to xbox360 console. Truely one has too droOl just reading baout it. It basically is a true multimedia hub unlike xbox360.Hardcore pc users will get a ps3 just for the fact it does so much more than ypur basic gaming. Histroy tells us sony has dominated the gaming business for years and if history stands true and the hardware specs don't fail too dissapoint there truely is no reason too support the box360. Microsoft is a billion dollar business and they decided to go on the cheap and create a bugged out cheap machine. It could have been so much more as far as a simple gaming machine but it looks like they went too the cheap. Sony3 has big plans and one of them as stated over an over. We don't plan on releasing a new console for 7-10 years. There goal is to add as many ports as possible and too make the system powerful enough to create almost photo realistic graphics running at decent speeds. That is future proofing a console for sure. I say if they can pull it off and add the blueray drive sonty truely has no reason to make a new machine unlike xbox360 which has no options for alot of multimedia functionality after all its missing too many ports to be usefull as a true digital hub. Plus the fact sony on paper will release a blueray drive with the system as well as a harddrive as well as a mouse and keyboard. Too sum things up....Stay Clean An Clear of the Xbox360

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Paul, answer me this. How can the PS3 last 7-10 years as Sony claimed when right now the XTX1900XTX and the FX-60 CPU is more powerful then the G70 and Cell CUP inside the unreleased PS3?Moreover, considering that the G70 is already obsolete now, with the GPU cycles every 6 months and CPU cycles the same, in 10 years the PS3 will be a paper weight.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

One more thing. The Xbox360 can also add digital cameras and other multi-media devices. If you cared to notice ;)And sorry, the PS3 will not produce "photo realistic" graphics running at decent speeds. Not even the mentioned hardware above can do that in real-time. If you heard what Nvidia said about the GPU inside the PS3 that "gives you those graphics" they wont be running games in 1080 with FSAA on. But a PC can do that. Even in Unreal 2007 teh truth ;)

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

teh truth you moron. The only reason a PC will not be able to handle Unreal 2007 maps wil be because of poor programming by Epic software. Considering that the hardware inside a hig-end PC right now is more powerful then the PS3 WHY COULD IT NOT HANDLE IT. You Sony goofball

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Oh god. 7-10 years. Give me a break! In just 2 years the hardware inside Sony's new hype will be outdated. It already is for the graphic chip!You cannot future proof a console unless you can upgrade it. And since you cannot upgrade it, it's not future proof. If you rememeber Paul, Sony also said the PS2 was future proof! lmfao. It's technically the s**ttiest console of the 3 right now hardware wise. And that was future proof? lol.Wifi ports. Ports and other interfaces DO NOT INCREASE A SYSTEMS SPEED OR POWER. To do that, you need to change the CPU and GPU. Ports are just for add-ons like DVD rives/players. HardDrives etc. Nothing to do with CPU or GPU power. So what the hell are you talking about? How old are you buddy? Plus the Xbox360 and already has numerous ports and wifi capability. As the Revoltuion will too.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

teh truth, You're not serious right? Overclock the CPU and GPU on a console? lol. You cannot overclock a consoles GPU or CPU without having access to the bios or over-clocking tools. Like Sony or MS would ever let the user do this. Moreover, the maximum overclock theoretical rate for a GPU running on 90nm is 700-750MHZ Core Clock speed using passive cooling. Plus you only get 5-13% increase performance if your lucky depending on yields of said chipset. Still not even close enough to be as fast as THIS generation of CPU's and GPU's. Are you going to spend an extra $500 to modify your PS3 to run a water cooling setup through it? lol. Even if it's possible. However, they sell those kits for ALL GPU'S AND CPU'S. And those are stable.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

Has anyone ever heard of over-clocking a console? That would be a first! lol.I assume teh truth that's what you mean by "ISnt there a thing called overclocking?!" a console?Can i add this? How much over-clocking would you need if it's even possible(which it more likely is not) for a PS3 to keep up pace with 10 years of CPU and GPU progress? Consiedering every year GPU speed doubles and CPU speed goes up by 1-1/2 times? Answer teh truth? You would have to over-clock the GPU inside the PS3 thats running a 550MHZ core clock speed to at least 1100mhz if not more. Then over-clock the memory clock from 1500mhz to at least 3000mhz. Remember we are talkig about 7-10 years of CPU, GPU advancement. Now that form of over-clocking(doubling clock speeds just for the GPU not even for the Cell, has never been done. Even with liquid Nitrogen!) By the time 10 years has passed you will see GPU's runing unified shaders with many more pipelines then 24 or 48 piplines. How can the PS3 keep pace? teh truth, you cannot be serious dude.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

holy crap u guys!... get outside before your skin flakes off... if you want facts look at the obvious... its not hard to know which system will be better visualy, its all up to the game developers to use what the system provides.... games could look good on both consoles... one a little bit more to offer,... but still great looking non the less.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

Consoles vs. PC"The difference between theoretical performance and real-world performance on the CPU level is growing fast. On, say, a regular Xbox, you can get very large fractions of theoretical performance with not a whole lot of effort. The PlayStation 2 was always a mess with the multiple processors on there, but the new generations, with Cell or the Xbox 360, make it much, much worse. They can quote these incredibly high numbers of giga-flops or tera-flops or whatever, but in reality, when you do a straightforward development process on them, they’re significantly slower than a modern high-end PC."-PCGAMER-

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

The only thing one has too look forward too if they get a Revolution console would have to be Metroid Prime Endless Mario cart/nintendog remakes and probably a half dozen mario lugi baseball/basketball games. No thanks. I'll get myself an Adults console Sony Playstation 3 or maybe that bug ridden xbxo360 if it ever fixes its hardware problems.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

"Consoles vs. PC"The difference between theoretical performance and real-world performance on the CPU level is growing fast. On, say, a regular Xbox, you can get very large fractions of theoretical performance with not a whole lot of effort. The PlayStation 2 was always a mess with the multiple processors on there, but the new generations, with Cell or the Xbox 360, make it much, much worse. They can quote these incredibly high numbers of giga-flops or tera-flops or whatever, but in reality, when you do a straightforward development process on them, they’re significantly slower than a modern high-end PC."-PCGAMER-"Yeah that's probably true.. but what about the price?? How much do you have to pay for a PC with the same graphical capabilities as.. let's say XBOX 360, and I mean a PC that's going to have as great looking graphix as X360 in 5 years as well.. without having to upgrade it even once..

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

xatly... pc's are usually used for evrything.. so if you have a good one.... why not play good looking games on it.. if u can afford to go with console and pc... have a ball. i know modderz "like myself" need a pc.. id probably go crazy without one.

Playstation 3 Secrets Revealed

o personally think that fps games, and and any game really where u have to aim at something, go way better on pc than console... i luv console,.. but it "in some cases" cannot add up to the real feel of fluent mouse control.unless the NIN REV can change all that?

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