[[Enhance the ATI Experience]]
It is, of course, a well known fact that Doom 3 is a game which performs best when using boards by nVidia. This has left ATI fans frustrated and eager for a driver update or some other fix. Since ATI has not yet responded, a way of improving the way Doom 3 handles on ATI cards has been posted on the Beyond3D forums. According to the author, the performance increase can increase frame rate from 34fps in 1280x1024 to 48fps. Changes would, of course, depend on each individual set-up. A further suggestion from the forum is that the fix really kicks-in if vsync is enabled. Please feel free to post your experience with the fix on the MegaGames Forums.
The fix involves changing some code which can be found in the Doom 3 pak000.pk4 file. For those not interested in the technical side of the fix, an already changed file is available by following the download tab above. Extract so that the shader file goes under doom3baseglprogs. This replaces a dependent texture read with equivalent math, which runs better on ATI cards, but seems to run slower on NV boards, so only apply this if you got an ATI card.
...this should be good enough proof that ATI hardware can run Doom3 just as good if not better than nVidia, and that we can pass on all the "ATI suck in OpenGL", "ATI's drivers suck" etc. into the trashcan where it belongs.
The full, do-it-yourself, fix is as follows:
I picked up Doom3 today and let be begin by saying it's a kickass game so far. A few minuses like weapon reload (which I find add nothing to a game, except annoyance, so I don't know why many devs keep adding it to their games), but overall much above my expectations.
Anyway, to the fun part, exploring the technology.
I think I've found the source of why this game runs comparably slow on ATI hardware vs. nVidia at the moment, and found a solution to the problem.
First, open your doom3base folder. Doubleclick on the pak000.pk4 file. In the "window can't open this file .. .bla bla" dialog, go on and associate the file with an app like WinRar. With this file open in WinRar, go to the glprogs directory in the file. In there you'll find the shaders. The interaction.vfp file seems to be the main rendering shader. Altering this shader to output a constant color turns most objects into that constant color, except for stuff like computer screens etc.
So doubleclick the interaction.vfp file to open it (you may have to associate the .vfp extension with a text editor like notepad or wordpad first since we're going to edit the file). Scroll down to the fragment shader. You'll find these rows:
Code:
PARAM subOne = { -1, -1, -1, -1 };
PARAM scaleTwo = { 2, 2, 2, 2 };
Add this right below them:
Code:
PARAM specExp = { 16, 0, 0, 0 };
Now scroll down to this:
Code:
# perform a dependent table read for the specular falloff
TEX R1, specular, texture[6], 2D;
Comment out that line by adding a "#" to it, and add another line that will do the same thing with math instead, so it should look like this:
Code:
# perform a dependent table read for the specular falloff
# TEX R1, specular, texture[6], 2D;
POW R1, specular.x, specExp.x;
Save the file and close your text editor. WinRar will ask if you want to update the file in the archive, select yes. Close WinRar and enjoy about 40% higher performance in Doom3. Haven't done extensive testing yet, but my performance went from 34fps in 1280x1024 to 48fps.
Conclusion and discussion:
I don't want to complain about Carmack's work, I still consider him to be the industry leader in graphics engines. Though when I read the shader it striked me how many texture accesses it did compared to the relatively short shader, even for stuff that could just as well be done with math for a small cost in instructions. Using a dependent texture lookup for POW evaluation makes a lot of sense for R200 level hardware due to instruction set limits, but for R300 and up it's much better to just spend the three cycles it takes to evaluate POW with math instead of risking texture cache trashing with a dependent texture read, which may be much more costly, especially since the access pattern in this case will be far from linear. Also, using math improves the quality too, even though it may not be very noticable in this game.
I should point out though that I'm not sure if the constant specular factor 16 that I chose is the one that the game uses, so output may be slightly different, but if this solution will be worked into the game in a future patch, then this is easily configurable by the game so that there won't be a difference, except a lot faster.
An interesting follow-up discussion may be why this dependent texture lookup is much slower on our hardware than on nVidia. Maybe there's an architectural difference that's to blame, or maybe something else? The main point here though is that this should be good enough proof that ATI hardware can run Doom3 just as good if not better than nVidia, and that we can pass on all the "ATI suck in OpenGL", "ATI's drivers suck" etc. into the trashcan where it belongs.
[[Previous Doom 3 Optimizations]]
Doom 3 has caused upheaval in the gaming community, especially since most players lack the necessary specs to make the most of their experience. Thanks to our readers we have traced a few ways that most gamers can enhance their experience fighting the hell-breathing monsters that are after their fellow marines.
Light at the end of the barrel
While gamers everywhere are struggling to calm their trigger fingers following the Doom 3 experience, many are already complaining about the need for more light. Thanks to a bit of duct tape and a lot of ingenuity, Glen 'FrenZon' Murphy has created the Duct Tape Mod, a solution to all our Mars vision troubles. A link to the files and a brief description of the mod is available by following the download tab above.
Cheap Cards Not Choppy Games
Another kind soul has taken pity on the poor gamers tackling Doom 3 with the Radeon 8500, 9000 and 9200 series of cards and has released a Graphics Optimization Guide, guaranteed to solve the OpenGL Blues of all low-end ATI card owners. A link to the guide is also available by following the download tab above.
Finally a kind Megagames reader, you know who you are Slijkhuis, has sent in another way to get a very definite performance boost. This guide works by releasing a lot of CPU resources and manages to do so by eliminating the need to decompress data while playing the game. According to our benefactor, there is a catch! By using the fix, you temporarily can't connect to pure multiplayer servers. You have been warned (although there is a way back)
The Guide
After installation, the Doom III Folder consists only of the doom3.exe and some .PK4 files. Those PK4 files includes the entire game (sounds, videos, textures etc.) compressed. They are normally uncompressed in mid game, which is very hard on your CPU. We can unpack them and thus take the strain of your CPU.
1. Make a copy of ALL the files in C:Program FilesDoom 3base. This is some big filage, but if you want to revert to MP without reinstalling you need to do it.
2. Unrar the following .pk4 files (just pretend they are .rar's and open them with winrar) into the C:Program FilesDoom 3base folder (each one should unrar a single folder such as textures or models):
pak000.pk4
pak001.pk4
pak002.pk4
pak003.pk4
pak004.pk4 (This one has many files, put them all in Base and overright any that apply.
3. Now delete the files above (pak000-004) or move them to another folder for storage so you can revert to multiplayer.
When you want to revert to multiplayer, restore everything you had before and get rid of the new stuff. I'm not sure if the folder maps is the same or not, so make sure you back that up.
When in the original Doom3 /base folder (that is, before the unpacking), you would have thse folders and files "maps" "savegames" "config.spec" "doomConfig.cfg" "doomkey" game00.pk4" and "gamex86.dll", nothing else.
ALSO DO THIS! If you open DoomConfig.cfg (C:programfilesdoom3base) in notepad and change (make sure to save a backup copy) seta image_cacheMegs "32" to a higher number, such as 128 or 265 (depends on RAM, use 256 for a gig, 128 for 512mb) you will see a big increase too. You also have to change the seta image_useCache to "1" and seta image_cacheMinK to approx "20480" (or higher)
There you have it, since the CPU wont have to unpack the textures, sounds, etc...there is a MASSIVE performance increase at the expense of no MP and requiring more HD space.
Please feel free to post your experiences using these fixes and Mod in the User Comments section.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onwill it run on my IBM Clone 386with 8mb ram and a 2mb vid card and .5gb hdd? i hope so...
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onAfter reading this my IQ has gone down about 20 points... The game is sposed to be dark and scary. Its sposed to be played at night, with the colume cranked in a dark room.
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Submitted by SigmaX6 (not verified) oni wonder why nothing ever gets doen in these furoms because there constantly spammed by retards hating this or that, i dont go inot hl2 furoms and say i h8te it! damnit these are for peeps that like doom 3 not h8te it sheeshh..morons
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onhey to all you 16 year old fanboys...the median age for gaming is 29...yeah, you heard me 29!!! and on behalf of all of us in the 25-34 age group i've gotta say
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onAnonymousat 21:12 10/8/2004hey to all you 16 year old fanboys...the median age for gaming is 29...yeah, you heard me 29!!! and on behalf of all of us in the 25-34 age group i've gotta say
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Submitted by nvidia (not verified) onENHANCE YOUR DOOM3 EXPERIENCE THE SURE WAY -- BUY AN NVIDIA GRAPHICS CARD!!!! :-)
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onI am f**king sick of people who say either this game is **** or the best thing they have ever played on. Its a f**king game u sad people, I ain't played it yet cos it ain't out in the UK yet. I mean when you all say 'This game is a pile of ****' etc. What the f**k is it gonna do? Absolutley f**k all. So either shut the f**k up, or go play this overrated game till your hearts content.
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Submitted by Smokey (not verified) onDoes anyone know where to find a copy of the low-end radeon optimization guide? The link in the download tab is broken. I would really appreciate it.
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Submitted by fishfood (not verified) onon my compAMD 2800+ATI 9600 Pro 256mb1gig 3200ramThis tweak made a noticeable difference I recommend it to any one in my situation.However beware: the load times are much much longer.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onThis MOD is *****. It takes the fun out of it completely. The whole point is to get your torch out when you find yourself in a dark spot. This MOD is for people who can't handle a little jump. If you download this MOD your a wet **** and should be shot. If you survive you shall be shot again.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onAnonymousat 18:15 10/8/2004will it run on my IBM Clone 386with 8mb ram and a 2mb vid card and .5gb hdd? i hope so...OK joker - the 5GB hard drive probably wouldnt detect in your BIOS and 8MB RAM in the 386 days would have cost about £800 which was more than a months wages back then!!! LOL
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Submitted by DM (not verified) onSmokeyat 0:50 11/8/2004Does anyone know where to find a copy of the low-end radeon optimization guide? The link in the download tab is broken. I would really appreciate it.Go to [url removed] an optimisation guide posted there from about 2 days ago that covers most stuff.Theres a load of reviews and mods there too, and the guys in the forums there are more mature than most of the fanboys glued to these forums :D
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Submitted by DM (not verified) onAnonymousat 22:15 10/8/2004Anonymousat 21:12 10/8/2004hey to all you 16 year old fanboys...the median age for gaming is 29...yeah, you heard me 29!!! and on behalf of all of us in the 25-34 age group i've gotta say
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Submitted by 36M (not verified) onGame is prescripted and AI stinks. Shame on you carmack, this game is written with the commercial Xbox idiot in mind who cant aim with a mouse. I cant stand that whenever you cross a certain point in the game that it triggers some imp jumping out the wall and its the same over and over and over and over and over again and again and again. Good eyecandy though with the considerable low polygon count.8.4/10 for this one if you play on veteran
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Submitted by darlingdon76 (not verified) onWorked for me!!!!System: 2.0 gig p4, 512 megs pc 133, geforce4 ti4600...After using tips, was able to run very smooth at 800x600, with high settings, and surround sound.Before I was on low setting at 640x480 and still a little jumpy..Thanks for the great tips!!!Come up with some more for games like Far Cry etc....
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Submitted by City of Dis (not verified) onWell, d3 is currently scaring the heebie jeebies out of me, atleast in night play. The torch mod is terrible, it ruins the game, were you can either have light or a gun lol.my 9000 plays it fine, though any added performance is fine by me. Currently extracting the pak files.
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Submitted by Maddogjez (not verified) onOK,, i keep hearing about people who have got higher end systems than me and they run Doom 3 in low resolutions because apparently they cant run it any higher, Well my system is >>CPU - AMDxP 2000 = 1.7GRam - 512mb of DDR333 winbondMotherboard - MSI KT3 Ultra2H-D - 60gig MaxtorH-D - 120gig MaxtorG-Card - 128mb Geforce4200 GoldenSampleAND i can run Doom 3 in 1280x1024 but in high detail areas this resolution doesnt suffice, SO i run it in 1024x768 and it runs absolutly perfect :)and thats with high graphics options on.
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Submitted by Hunter (not verified) onPentium 4 2.0Ram 1280ATi Radeon 9700 Pro no overclock160 GB W digitalAsus P4S8X-XATi 4.9 Beta drivers release for Doom 3and has everything on ultra an run at leas 71 fps. When shootinh 37 fps. but still playebel.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) ondon't know about you but I think pong has 100x times the better graphics then Doom 3.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onThe cheese is old and mouldy where is the bathroom
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onthe bathroom is on your far left.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onextacting the files made the game run significantly worse for me.p4 3.0c1 gig corsiar pc3200 dual channel80gb 7200rpmradeon 9800 non-proChang-Fun CF-EG65 motherboardCat 4.9 betas
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Submitted by JUST ME (not verified) onIT IS THE BEST GAME OUT THERE RIGHT NOW. BEST GRAPHICS, BEST SOFT SHADOWS. GAMEPLAY SUCKS SOMETIMES, BUT IT IS STILL GOOD. GAMEPLAY IS BETTER THAN FARCRY. FARCRY'S GRAPHICS IS BETTER THOUGH, BUT THIS GAME HAS VERY, VERY NICE SHADOW IMPLEMENTATION.IT GETS TOO DARK SOMETIMES, BUT HEY ITS DOOM3.NVIDIA CARDS RUN THIS GAME WELL BETTER. MY 5950ULTRA RUNS IT AT 1024X768 WITH EVRYTHING AT HIGH WITH 40-50 FPS IN MEDIUM ENVIRONMENTS.(3.2GHZ P4, 1024 PC3200/CUSTOM BUILT)ATI CARDS ARE BETTER FOR HALF LIFE 2, BUT THEN AGAIN, THEY ARE ATI. NOT STABLE, OVERALL PROBLEMS.GO WITH NVIDIA, IF U WANT, 3D GLASSES SUPPORT, EASY OVERCLOCKING AND OVERALL STABILITY.
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Submitted by Oops f**kin A (not verified) onFor all you cluster f**ks out there. Long before Doom 3 was ever f**kin released, there was a very well noted fact. Doom 3 was a Re-Creation of the original Doom. So for those of you scumbags who are ******** about Originality or the
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Submitted by gufgufguf2005 (not verified) ongraphics enhancement guide link doesn´t work. does anyone have an alternative link i can use.
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Submitted by Jet Black (not verified) onI am not that far in the game---Alpha labs sector 2, and there is freaky @ss $hit going on. When I entered the first room, You see gibs sliding down the ventalation shaft onto the floor. Then... Was it my imagination or did I really see a body litteraly just float away from you through these doors.The body just lifted up off the ground and hovered really fast. Then I fought two imps.
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Submitted by Jet Black (not verified) onIts really funny--- Sometimes when you smack and kill a zombie with youre flashlight, The impact of youre flashlight, sends the body flying into the air several feet away. Now that is weird.Hey, its FUN to smack and kill zombies with youre flashlight.I usually use my shotgun on imps, My assualt rifle on armed zombies, (machine-gun zombies and shotgun zombies) my pistol on unarmed zombies or zombies that are just armed with a monkeywrench.
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Submitted by Jet Black (not verified) onMAN! you dont ever need to conserve youre Grenades. If you actually do use them, then chuck like 3 at least. Sometimes if im overwhelmed by demons/zombies, or that are backing me into the corner of the room, than Ill hurl several. I hardly ever remember to use nades because you dont really need them. Sometimes I throw one at the foot of a single zombie that is trying to make his way towards me. And BOOM, he's gone :)
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Submitted by Napalm (not verified) onPersonally i think that doom sucks. Its the same stuff over and over. Ok nice gfx and all but in what way does that help in a game with a Single Player plot that just drags on with crap gameplay. Its just the same stuff as you walk into a different room so predictable that another zombie wearing exactly the same clothes comes at yer. Half Life 2 has greater potential as it poses very nice gfx perhaps the best physics engine ever created which alone adds differential to gameplay. Also since half life defined the fps genre im sure this will succeed in a better manner. I think activision should of brought shares in farcry as its practically the same game only farcry is better.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onfarcry was better. The graphics were roughly the same but the worlds dragged you in, with the different structures, indoor and outdoor detail. In doom3 the world looks quite similar all the way through and doesnt really grab you. Although some details like the candles on the floor with the red Hex shining around a few bodies looks very gothic and cool. Still, its farcry for me anyday.
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Submitted by AUSSIE (not verified) onhey the previous post was me... and that was the 200th post! yay!
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Submitted by Ken (not verified) onJust dropping my 2 cents worth in. I play Doom 3 on an AMD 3400 64BIT, 1.5 GIG of 3200 RAM, two WD 80GIG SATA HD Raided, Audigy 2, and ATI 9800XT 256 on a 18" LCD at1280 by 1024 at high setting. I stay above 50FPS and it kicks ***!! ATI all the way.
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Submitted by KLAAS (not verified) onI agree ATI all the way. I have a P4 2.4 HT with 1.5gb DDR400 Seagate160 SATA Radeon9700p 19"Samsung LCD playing doom on 1024x768 on High and FPS always at 60. Action scenes it drops for a sec to 45 or 50 but nothing major. Graphics are amazing but gameplay stinks. I can only play for an hour or so then it gets boring, typical console fps. Farcry is overall way better than D3. But all bullshit aside HL2 will dominate.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onATI all the way if you are STUPID!ATI is for Half Life 2 faggots and Xbox faggots!
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Submitted by Pimpin_Whity (not verified) onthis fix actually works, wow. it game me a 10fps boost. oh btw, Anonymous, x-box uses nVidiots video card, not ATI. i dont think we would go so low as to put one in a ****-box ;)
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Submitted by honjo (not verified) onBS, rather try find the right renderer for your cardr_renderer "arb2" gave me a 20fps boost, from ~25 ~45fps on timedemo at 1024 x hq, that tip dropped my fps by 2
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Submitted by Hobo The Dog (not verified) onAtidiotsnVidiotsif you ask me, if your a fanboy of either one, you are one the options above.
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Submitted by grungie (not verified) onto all the people who keep ******** about which will be better out of hl and d3- heres a really bright idea for you! BUY & PLAY BOTH! they will both be good!
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onwhat's the point of "enhancing" it, when after everything that's said and done it's still a ****** game.Carmack should be shot
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onThe cheese is old and moldy where is the bathroom?
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onDie kaas is oud en vrot waar is die badkamer?
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onsucks to have an ati right now :-(
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onyeah it does
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onpeople put down farcry... doom 3... and hl2... it came out to late... it is a copy of hl story line... it is to short ... it was to long...get a life!!! i am for one happy to get farcry first (finished it) doom 3 second (almost done) and when i finish doom 3 hl2 will be out very soon. why would i want to have all good games come out at the same time or be all the same ides... each game was or is good (different but good) and the timing could not be better.secondly i do not buy a game just because of video card ties (i own an ATI 9800XT and so far doom 3 is great) so all of you people who, for some wierd reason, hate hl2 (but i can put money down you loved hl when it first came out) get over it because we know you are going to buy/download it...p.s. by changing the code in doom 3 and getting the 4.8 ati drivers i can play doom 3 on ultra setting (everything on "yes", but with no iq) at 1024 X 768 res. with 30+ fps.. i have a barton 3200, with ddr 333 1536mb, and a sound blaster audigy 2.
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Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) onAnonymous below me, you posted the same post in every forum, you must be a loser. Oh look, there's an 'L' on your forehead! Read your post man, you're an uber dork! Oh and I have to agree, Half-Life2 sucks!
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Submitted by KLAAS (not verified) onAll you people have got youre heads so far up your ******** its not even funny. Doom3 is scary. Bigup for that period. But the gameplay is a absolute f**kup. Carmack dont know **** d**k SQUAT. I mean the only gun you can actually play with in the game is the shotgun cause it works theres loads of ammo for it. The Big Gatling is another nice effective gun but theres no f**king ammo for the thing. The levels are so repetitive its becomes boring after 1hour of play and there is too much health what the f**k is up with that.(in veteran mode comeon) Give ammo for the GAT for f**k sakes. And all you c**ts dissing HL2 f**koff the game will dominate Gabe is actually clever enough too test the game over and over with gamers and listening too their complaints thats why the delay for the game. You ppl with Nvidia cards should f**king pull your heads out of your ******* and start buyinh proper hardware for proper gaming. ATI 4eva.... maybe?
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Submitted by Pimpin_Whity (not verified) ondo u notice how it is the dumb kids who buy nVidia cards, there are exceptions like grown up dumbasesses. all nVidia does is buy off game manufacturers so they can get the extra 5-10 fps in games, but guess what 5-10 extra fps doesn't really matter when a really great game comes along (ie: H-L2) and people with anyting below an FX6800 GT cant ever run the **** game without special drivers. i would be really ****** if i could play Doom 3 at 10fps higher then my friend, but cant even start Half-Life 2.u have to admit that both games are a the greatest at what they're trying to accomplish, and all u nVidiots are going to play it, like Anonymous said, but most of u cant. so stick that nVidia **** up ur *** and go buy a Radeon
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