Intel Announces Pentium 4 Brand Name For New Microprocessor

For the people that tell that p3 are great I have a things for us .I have tested a p3 550 with a Diamond viper- 750 32 meg AGP with a Maxtor Hard disk running at 7200rpm and a AMD-k6(tm)-2 500 with a vodoo 3 2000 pci with a Futjistu Hard disk running at 5200rpm.When I tested it with some new games like diablo2 in direct3d(amdk6(tm)-2 )and in open gl(p3550)and unreal tournament I noted that the P3 take a long time before they load game and when the game loaded that take a lot more time that the amd .That who bring me to tell to the pentium fans, that Amd computer price are lower than the Pentium of same type and of better quality of the pentium.(pentium=****!!!!!!!!!)

You guys are all wankers

Dark Soul, You are right about the loading thing with UT. But that is the only prob I have with it. Intel to me is still the best.

Syko, thank you kind sir. To I****YOURMOTH*ER, again, we see the intellectual capabilities of rabid Intel borg. By the way, my prior remark about 3rd grade level writing, should not be taken to apply to those for whom English is not the first language, Intel supporters or not. I doubt most people here in the USA could write at that level in yours. RedWolf, appreciate your sentiments. My problem is not that Intel chips are unusable, anyone wants to give me a PIV for free, you're welcome. The issue is threefold. They tried to implement a system of spying on their customers through their PSN stamp. Now they claim they won't do that with the PIV, I'll believe it when they're widely shipped. This is just plain wrong, a lesson that not only they need to learn, but the industry, as there are plenty of people pushing it. Two, their dominance has caused them to slack. The release of the PIV has been repeatedly delayed, and they have been hesitant to release benchmarks. There is speculation among many experts that in many ways it will underpreform a PIII, ([url removed] Not to mention the recall of the PIII 1.13GHz on July 31. Third, their pricing structure. An 800MHz seems to be a good investment for a serious gamer. Looking around for a good price on the 512k cache, I ran across this site, [url removed] The PIII 800 was $421, the Athalon 800 was $225. For the extra $200, I can get an Nvidia TNT2 128bit 32 MB AGP video card, PLUS 64 MB PC133 RAM and still have $50 left over!!! If you choose the Intel option, how stupid can you be!!! But then what can you expect from fans who's most intelligent argument is to shout obscenities.

Just like to say that everyone rants on about amd's being unreliable and unstable. Well I have to disagree as I have a Amd K6-2 350 (yes i am still using a 350) and my computer runs all of the latest games fine and does not crash at all and i am using windows 98!!!!! Infact I the last time it crashed was about 4 months ago and that is running the latest games so as you can imagine that is puting it under quite a lot of pressure.

By the comments written on the boardyou can see what kind of people areusing Pentium computers.Pentium's are expensive, that's all,AMD's are not expesive (Less Commercialtime on TV=Cheaper Chips, less hype more performance),and their performance is better. People have more reasons not to like "Intel" (Their chips), people don't like Intel for nothing.

GoodMornig buys and girls...I have been readin gall of you articles regarding the difference in Processors. There is only one real solution to this debate. If you prefer Pentiums over AMD then stay with Pentiums. If you prefer AMD over Pentiums stay with AMD. I have used both numerous times. I have hand built hundreds of custom PCs using both sets of Processors. For certain things each processor has its own Niche. AMDs seem to load quicker and run a little less stable. (In My Opinion at least). But for all of you Pentium fans out there, you arent out of the woods yet either. P IIIs have a nasty tendency to be unreliable. I have seen 5 or 6 out of a dozen eat themselves beacuse of the on going heat issues. If you can keep the CPU real cool then Pentiums are not to bad. But as for the price wars, if you want to spend more money on a Pentium do so but thn spend even more to keep the thing cool. If you want to spend less money and get an AMD then do so just be prepared for the Hardware in compatibility that you at some point WILL face. Both have their Pros and Cons, so it is really a matter of preference as to which way you want to go. But i dont think any of us are really in a position to call each processor pieces of **** unless you have made one yourself that outperforms AMD or Pentium by a 100 fold. If you want to know i have to AMD athlons and to PIII ( one 600 and one 800 ).Thanks for your time!

GoodMornig buys and girls...I have been readin gall of you articles regarding the difference in Processors. There is only one real solution to this debate. If you prefer Pentiums over AMD then stay with Pentiums. If you prefer AMD over Pentiums stay with AMD. I have used both numerous times. I have hand built hundreds of custom PCs using both sets of Processors. For certain things each processor has its own Niche. AMDs seem to load quicker and run a little less stable. (In My Opinion at least). But for all of you Pentium fans out there, you arent out of the woods yet either. P IIIs have a nasty tendency to be unreliable. I have seen 5 or 6 out of a dozen eat themselves beacuse of the on going heat issues. If you can keep the CPU real cool then Pentiums are not to bad. But as for the price wars, if you want to spend more money on a Pentium do so but thn spend even more to keep the thing cool. If you want to spend less money and get an AMD then do so just be prepared for the Hardware in compatibility that you at some point WILL face. Both have their Pros and Cons, so it is really a matter of preference as to which way you want to go. But i dont think any of us are really in a position to call each processor pieces of **** unless you have made one yourself that outperforms AMD or Pentium by a 100 fold. If you want to know i have to AMD athlons and to PIII ( one 600 and one 800 ).Thanks for your time!

GoodMornig buys and girls...I have been readin gall of you articles regarding the difference in Processors. There is only one real solution to this debate. If you prefer Pentiums over AMD then stay with Pentiums. If you prefer AMD over Pentiums stay with AMD. I have used both numerous times. I have hand built hundreds of custom PCs using both sets of Processors. For certain things each processor has its own Niche. AMDs seem to load quicker and run a little less stable. (In My Opinion at least). But for all of you Pentium fans out there, you arent out of the woods yet either. P IIIs have a nasty tendency to be unreliable. I have seen 5 or 6 out of a dozen eat themselves beacuse of the on going heat issues. If you can keep the CPU real cool then Pentiums are not to bad. But as for the price wars, if you want to spend more money on a Pentium do so but thn spend even more to keep the thing cool. If you want to spend less money and get an AMD then do so just be prepared for the Hardware in compatibility that you at some point WILL face. Both have their Pros and Cons, so it is really a matter of preference as to which way you want to go. But i dont think any of us are really in a position to call each processor pieces of **** unless you have made one yourself that outperforms AMD or Pentium by a 100 fold. If you want to know i have to AMD athlons and to PIII ( one 600 and one 800 ).Thanks for your time!

Everyone seems to be contradicting each other as to which is faster Athlon or P3. All i want to know is which performs faster with a geforce ddr in Quake3 Arena. Does anyone know which performs faster in games,256MB of pc100 RAM or 128MB of Rambus Ram.

I have built my own computer, I used an AMD K6-2 500mhz (It cost me $60 a few months ago!!! with a heatsink+fan and a lifetime warranty-talk about value- ), and it works great. I haven't had a hardware conflict or anything, most of the computer conflicts are caused by the software installed, software creates conflicts with each other.For the price and performance (same or better than more expensive CPUs) I rather use AMD. Maybe people think that because AMD's processors cost less theyare less quality, but that's not the case. I'm glad with AMD. If you are planning on using a GEforce ddr in Quake3 Arena, and 256MB of pc100 RAM or 128MB of Rambus Ram, better choose a good motherboard first (Choose one that supports 4x AGP, and that accepts lots of RAM, then choose an Athlon processor, Athlons have 3DNOW!and MMX (Pentiums only have MMX) instructions which make games run faster (AMD is part of the American Gaming League). If you want to spend more buy a Pentium, otherwise get an Athlon processor for hundreds less usually with better performance, that's up to you on how much you want to spend, all I'm telling you is that Athlons are cheaper and perform better. :)

Hey, just posted my benchmarks for my AMD k6-2 475 mhz w/ voodoo 3500 on the 3dmark site today. I only had 1035 points.. Then I compared my stats with other computers. The Athlon with a Geforce 2 had everyone beaten at it was like 5000 points. It took out the Pentium 3s they had there easily. Go check it out at [url removed]

Just to re-iterate a couple of Skaboy's comments. Cannot stress enough the importance of having a good motherboard. A poor one can make any chip look bad, along with the rest of your hardware. ASUS makes some pretty mean ones, but they're a little more spendy. If you do some shopping at a site that lists the stats, you can get a feeling for how various features compare. As I've said, for AMD, I've had good luck with Apollo VIA chipsets. For Intel, they also make chipsets, and there's supposed to be a really hot one for the PIII. If you're gonna spend the bucks on one of their chips, might as well get the board designed for it. The other point he mentioned is software being the major cause of conflicts/incompatability. This can be true in general, but particularly in the case of hardware drivers. I almost never use the ones packaged with a piece of hardware. Go to the company site and download the most recent. There's always someone running something in a combination they didn't forsee in the lab, causing a crash. When these get reported, the updated drivers usually resolve those problems. Even after I've been using something for awhile, I will still check for newer drivers, and often am rewarded with noticable improvement in the piece.

Clarification. In my previous post, I said for Intel, they also make chipsets, "they" is referring to Intel, and their "hot" board for the PIII is the VC820.

I say that the pIII is better thanall the other procesors.The new pIII-1500 mhz is better than:adm,adm-k6,celeron.that's it.My computer:PIII-933mhz,768-ram,voodoo 5500,cd 52x,burner 8x4x32,monitor 19 inch,hard drive:30 GB 7200rpm.I think is ok!!!!!

I am running a p3 450mhz, with 128mb ram, and a ATI Radeon 64mb ddr (and OH MY GOD DOES IT FLY!). on a Asus p3b-f m/board.And I get approx 3600 3d marks using amd 3d mark 2000 benchmark, and 45 fps in quake 3 benchmark.What I want to know, is if you dumb *****, are convinced that AMD kicks ***, then prove it, put some results on here for a change!I welcome any comments you have. so get typing!I intent to upgrade to a ASUS P4T m/board, running 128mb rimms, and the same graphics card, with a P4 1.4gig.Only costing £689. for the board,processor and memeory!

YES!!!!!!!! I can not wait

Yes, and is Big Brother inside? Until they stop their Nazi-esque identification of the PC, broadcast from the chip, everywhere on the internet the user goes, I will never buy another Intel product again. This is from a person who argued with everybody in the know when Pentium first came out, extolling it's virtues. "32-bit processing is useless, the buss and peripherals are all 16, and no one's writing software that really needs it." I said otherwise. But Intel sold me, and everyone else out to a police-state/marketing society. Yeah, you can turn the ID function off, if you know what you are doing. How many average PIII users do that? This means that if this keeps up, in the future one cannot visit many sites on the internet without identifying yourself, "access denied." The truth is, AMD's Athalon was faster first. They are certain to come out with one that will beat P4 soon. Until then, a 1 gig Athalon will just barely idle for most games out there, especially if you have say an NVIDIA 32 meg AGP video card, which you're a loser of a gamer if you don't have something equivalent anyway. Not only does a 1 gig Athalon outpreform any PIII out there, it's ridiculously cheaper. But of course, all you nice citizens would like to line up for your bowls of millet, while chanting "Sieg Hiel!", safe in the knowledge that Big Brother knows where you are at all times, and is looking out for your best interests.

intel sucks ***, amd all the way!!

no amd suck *** because if u turn off the comp for newer amds u gota wait a while b 4 u turn it back on else it wont start up

Intel's swansong. I can't say more.My last Intel proc was a DX/50. Next5x86 133, K6-2 266, K6-3 400.Even now I'm searching for a good K7 board, but hard to find. Know any?Problem is that I need 2 ISA slots...

bah they dun make ISA cards ne more!(i think) hence the windowses wont even support em.... bah!

Davros is right. Pentiums have been basically the only processor for a good while now. But it's time for a underdog (which is better anyways.) And, if you're getting a new system, get a GLADIAC invidia card. It's the best one out.

INTEL ROX AMD SCREWED THEMSELVS THEY SUCK I HAVE A INTEL PENTIUM3 550mhz AND IT RUNS 580mhz+!!!!!!!!!!!!!

INTEL ROX AMD SCREWED THEMSELVS THEY SUCK I HAVE A INTEL PENTIUM3 550mhz AND IT RUNS 580mhz+!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YA WELL I HAVE A PENTUIM 1 133 SUCK THAT! IT CAN RUN GAMES THAT NEED A PENTUIM 200 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

AMD's athlon is far better than the PIII and I expect their new processor to be better than athlons. The Athlon ran faster than p3 and the lower frequency athlons outweighes the higher frequency pentiums!!! Also the processors are far cheeper. if it wasnt for intels ad campains where each pc manufacturer which mentions the p3 has to have that crappy tune and the crappy animation, amd would be far ahead of them, oh well theres no point mentioning this to u lot, u just go with what they tell u to go with.

I personal think that Pentiums are one of the worlds most sucessful Processors' to date and they work with ease, unlike other processors' such as the AMDK62.

Ahh yes p4, Amd is gonna take a while takeing that punch no matter what. Right now p3 sucked and every other penthium and intel Ruled. Thak that Amd . (lol?)

thanks andy

thanks andy

AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD'SSUCK **** WE TRIED TESTING THEM TOGETHER AND THE AMD KEPT ON CRASHINGI'LL KEEP WITH THE COMPATABILITY AND REPUTATION OF INTEL ANYDAY.

Intel rulez always has alwayz will

However you did your comparison test, you must have been smoking banana leaves or something. I currently have a Pentium 60, Pentium Pro 200, AMD K6-2 200, 233 and 400. Regarding a 133 running games that require a 200, that's child's play. My Pentium 60 was running games that required 133, not hard to do if you've got extra RAM, or have a clean system. Was also running things on my K6-2 200 that were supposed to require more. Pentiums crash just as much as AMD, perhaps more. I have had to maintain the computers at work as well as my own, and have had problems with all of them crashing. Most of these were due to people, I repeat, people installing programs incorrectly, or doing things they shouldn't. Another issue is that the K6 and early K6-2s did not have good floating point capabilities. They not only addressed that with the 3D-now revision, that is when they began to outpreform Pentiums. There are also systems built with incompatible hardware, and Intel chip will suffer from this just as much as an AMD. I make it a rule to always buy a motherboard at the same time I buy a chip, getting ones that work together. That way, as I accumulate parts, I can later cobble another system together also. If your AMDs are crashing frequently, you're doing something wrong along the above lines. Regarding Dragunov's question, last time I was at [url removed] they had a DFI with 4 each of ISA and PCI with an Apollo VIA chipset, practically for free. Apollo VIA runs AMD very well, and they have 1 meg onboard cache, with that combo my K6-2 400 outpreforms a Pentium II 500. Intel's reputation, pah! It's a rule of law, if you have a reputation, you don't have to worry, you can overcharge, and cut corners, because people will buy your product anyway. You can see that with any product, the other guys try harder, because that's the only way they can compete. Again, in all the systems I've worked on, Pentium has at least as many problems.

like the guy sez - most hardware works including AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD's (which don't suck at all - unlike the moaners, who'd be better off with their nappies changing instead of their CPU's)

Yeah, Intel RULZZz...What-so-ever.. Or are you just showing your Royalty towards Intel? Good, well done, puppies!!!I run both systems at home, one PIII 600 & another AMD-K7 750. they both serve me well.Stop all this stupid criticism. I would like to see both Intel & AMD competing in the market..

it is cool to know that intel is gonna make a big advertising campain on a new higher performance procesor, but how powerfull will be that new procesor? was what I really wanted to know

AMD has prooven that they could be better than Intel (athlon) I hope they will proove the same with the mustang Processor refering to the P4

oooh boy, a jump from 1ghz to 1.2ghz and more...what is that, like a 5 percent increase in power for a 200 percent jump in price?technically, any game can be run well at 1024*768 with a ddr geforce card and a 750 mhz p3. so why this processor buzz??my thoughts are along the lines that programmers (especially some carmack guy and a gates person) are thinking up a non-geometry based programming system and will make all current technology (or at least most) overkill. just think, fractal based trees that are photorealistic using 25 mhz of power??? hmm, munch on that.

oh, and by the way, to put down the claims that intels crash more than amds, i've had three systems (base clock, 200, 266, and 400) overclocked to 266, 366, and 533 respectively (and with bus overclock all the way mind you) for over 6 months each, never even a win98 based crash. never. hows that for weird? haha

What's this? Another crap from Intel? AMD is now the king!!! One thing for sure, Pentium 4 will surely suck!

Message to Hunter: I wonder if you really know much about hardware. As far as I know, AMD is VERY STABLE. I'm not bragging or what, but I have built countless systems from Pentiums to AMDs. Both are stable. However, AMD obviously has the edge.

Dr Zaius, EAT THIS: AMD 550 MHz overclocked and running stable at 850MHz!!!! Check-out the AMD Duron 600 Mhz running at 1.1Ghz. Booo Hooo !!!

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Hey Archon boy, you dont know ****, calling AMD king, amd is for people who cant afford powerhouses from intel. The pentium 3 with RDRAM and the 133 mhz ram beat every AMD at the same speed, even the thunderbird. If you actually read this instead of ******* on it and saying im just an intel fan your wrong. A 733 coppermine. (Note COPPERMINE ONLY!) beat a 900 Mhz athlon in raw speed performance and in 3D winbench 2000. The 1 GHZ P3 with RDRAM spanked the normal GHZ athlon and T-bord so hard they woulda wish they were never brought in to existance. Yes AMD makes good processors for good prices, BUt the K6-2 an 3, are ****. Anyone who reads this, if you have the money for it, go with intel, no celerons though, if you dont have them money get an athlon, but no durons, we dont need to waste our time with **** thats as fast as a P2 or K6-3 with a slight performance increase.

In case you didnt know, Pentium 3 coppermines kick AMDs *** in gaming, even a Pentium 3 1 GHZ beat a t-bird 1.1 GHZ in gaming, although AMD beat Pentium 3 coppermines in applications...Intel has it in gaming

Ok, ***** about intel versus AMD when the Bloody chips actually hit the shelves, For all u lot know Cyrix might release summing like a Titan1.7Ghz (lol) and whup AMD and Intel outta BusinessWould you Buy a car without looking at what it can do or even before Driving it? Nope, Thought not!

Mr.DogZ I don't think so for some unexplainable reason except for that cyrix is certainly **** and everyone knows it

ARCHON AMD'S are for poor **** mudder ****ers that can't afford RAW PENTIUM POWER

SEE YOU HAVE TO OVERCLOCK AMD'S TO GET THE POWER