ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

The latest information released from Canada regarding ATIs monstrous R520 board, also known as Fudo, mentions the magic 'pipeline' word, a key element of the battle for graphical supremacy last year. Many might remember how the number 16 seemed to be the holy grail of both manufacturers and how stunned we all were that the companies involved could produce such monstrous boards carrying so many transistors and not be responsible for the melting of the polar ice caps.

Well this time ATI claims that its new range of boards will carry in excess of 300 million transistors meaning that, at least in theory, it will be able to feature 32 pipelines. It's time for gamer jaws to drop again as this will mean that the boards will feature twice as many pipelines as their predecessors. The current line of thinking at ATI is to have all boards with 32 pipelines but to restrict the first few versions to 24 functioning ones and to gradually introduce the full 32 enabled versions when market conditions and competitor products demand them.

ATI is rather keen to begin making its presence felt on the Top 20 3DMark hall of fame, as the recent failed attempt in Texas clearly demonstrated. The R520 could be the card to bring that success to ATI since it should be capable of performing at least twice as fast as the X850 meaning it should outperform even current SLI setups.

If ATI also manages to introduce its dual-GPU configuration this summer as expected, the resulting performance should run away with the 3DMark crown. I will leave you with the thought of two 32 pixel pipeline R520s running in tandem a game of your choice, how's that for starters?

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The picture card is the Crucial RADEON X850XT 256MB PCI Express card and not the R520.

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ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"in two years the r520 will be old, still powerful, but old. i can not see anyone selling there r520. there will be afew x850 (put i am already to that power level). it will just force me to either save up alot of money or go nvidia."Hardcore gamers will sell the r520 for a newer version. This has happened ever since the first GPU's hit the market. There will always be a market for high-end cards. This is where multiple gpu's will be. A causal gamer will more then likely stick with 1 card. They will not fork out $1000+ on 2 cards at anytime for a system. Casual gamers in most cases have a console and lower to mid-range PC for gaming. Only 1-3% buy high-end cards. This will not change.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

Hell i sold my 9700PRO for a 9800PRO when it came out. And at the time, the 9700PRO was a card that many reviewers said would play games at high resolutions for years. I upgraded soon as the 9800series hit. I personally know people who did the same with the 9800PRO to the 9800XT or 5800(yuck) to the 5900. The only people who keep their cards for 3 or more years are casual gamers. And they make up 60% of the market at least. These dual GPU's are totally targeted for the hardcore gamers

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"Listen ATI is the best because they have higher market share. So that should answer who's better war (ATI or Nvidia). Just stick to one GPU you f**king homos. "And intel has an even larger market share, guess they are the best so i better go get the newest intel video.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

ATI have announced that under new laws that you are all WANKERS and need to suck my big c**k!!! Because you are all gay and like it from dogs and cats and any animal because your f**ked in the head. I will rape your dad while your gran watches. thanks for readingChris

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

Multi-Rendering works in a different manner then SLI. Because it does, it allows the user to connect many cards to a motherboard that allows it. The U.S. Army used ATI's multi-rendering to hook up 34 R300 chips together. So depending on the motherboard company, you should be able to connect more then 2 cards easily to a multi-rendering capable motherboard. So if your Uber rich and a board can support 4-6 cards running a 32 pipeline R520, imagine the frame rates and insane Anti-alaising you can crank up, provided the CPU does not hinder bandwidth. I know the U.S. Army was using some crazy amount of AA and FSAA when they hooked up 34 9700 cards together. Image 34 R520's? Scary.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"Hardcore gamers will sell the r520 for a newer version. This has happened ever since the first GPU's hit the market. There will always be a market for high-end cards. This is where multiple gpu's will be. A causal gamer will more then likely stick with 1 card. They will not fork out $1000+ on 2 cards at anytime for a system. Casual gamers in most cases have a console and lower to mid-range PC for gaming. Only 1-3% buy high-end cards. This will not change.yes that would be true, but lets say ati is telling us the truth about "ATI Multi VPU". and you can keep your old card and use it with your new card.so right now you get an x800 or x850, in one to two years you pick up a r520. normally you would either sell your old card or put it in an other computer. now with "ATI Multi VPU" you can have the new card being boosted with your old card. would you sell the x800 or x850? you would not! you will keep it until you buy an other card like the r600 (r600 becomes your main card, the r520 goes in the second slot and your x800 gets removed).for alot of people this will require us to buy new and not used, why? no one wants to wait that long to get a good card.that is what i was talking about, how you got the idea i was talking about buy two card right away... i have no idea... read before you post.secondly sli can not do this (use two different cards).[url removed]

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"The current line of thinking at ATI is to have all boards with 32 pipelines but to restrict the first few versions to 24 functioning ones and to gradually introduce the full 32 enabled versions when market conditions and competitor products demand them."This is why i buy ATI chips. Love when they disable those pipelines. Oh the joy. Why? Because of the hard modding and bios tweaks you can do to open those remaining pipelines!!!! Major sweet. Did it to my X800PRO. Had 12 pipes. Modded it to 16. Saved uber cash! Nvidia is in for a serious rough ride 2005-2006 as they have nothing on the table at this time to run neck and neck with the R520. Time will tell though. But they have nothing taped out so they once again miss the 6 month product cycle.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

aussie beer kicks arse lol, so do some of our spirite like bundy :)anyhow like god knows how many peole have stated the only way to really to put a gigantic dent in either company is to improve quality or product and significantly reduce prices so the average user can afford the better cards.so make the low end/crap cards a maximum of $100 aussie, medium range $200-300 aussie and super cards $300-$500. This should actaully increase profits as more people can afford to buy cards and more oem machines will be better :Plol i know this wont happen because of f**ken government taxes if those went everything would be cheaper especailly all those f**king rediculous ones.also people if you want to buy things cheaper buy them at aussie airports or wherever they do duty free! just have to be travelling somewhere though....

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"for alot of people this will require us to buy new and not used, why? no one wants to wait that long to get a good card."This is what i was getting at. Sorry if you misunderstood. Even with the ability to use 2 different cards which is a major, major advantage over SLI, people who fork over the investment for the ATI dual card setup, will be the type that will buy a mid to high range card at some point and then purchase maybe a next generation card a year or so later. In the end, sales will still be the ame. The average user in general does not invest in a new card every GPU refresh.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

Just like all the other high-end cards. Only the rich and shameless can get them. Oh well. Love the 6 monh technology turn. Keeps ATI and Nvidia on their collective toes. One thing is for sure, this card will be major fast. And 2 or 3 or 4 of them together..holy shit. That will run Unreal 3 quite nicely i must say

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"dont worry Nvidia will make something even better just wait an see ATI fanboys Nvidia rules"Only thing is Nvidia won't be able to make anything better then the R520 this year. They have nothing taped out ot match it. In 2006 they will. That's when you see the R600.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

ati's multi gpu thing might be great, however i think it doesnt make sense to use an x800 and r520 at the same time. even if they manage that the x800 doesnt bottleneck the r520, the image quality will likely suffer from that combination because we can expect new antialaising or anisotropic filter technologies on fudo that the x800 does not have. so the image quality in the upper right corner might be better/worse than in the center of the screen.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

nvidia is always struggling to keep up with ATi, if u ask me, all ATi cards are well made an time taken, but hen u come to the nvidia cards, they seem like they were rushed and crappy, and they still dont have anything new.Also, sweet about the card, cant wait cause im going to get one. 32 pipelines is simply...AMAZING. and since u can use multi-rendering, images 2, 3, or even 4 cards!! that makes 64, 96, and 128 pipelines! damn!

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

I have an nVidia card and I wished I would have gotten an ATi but at that time, I knew nothing about ATi. There is one thing that benefits nVidia, most games are made to run smoother and better on nVidia cards, well at least the games I play. People, especially Americans hate ATi just because it's Canadian and for once, Canadians can do something better than the Americans.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

i dont like that "for once" statement from Stefan.I'm a canadian, and I don't get the ATI video cards, mainly because or their HUGE price, but once this R520 comes out ill buy it for sure, nvidia can go suck eggs, only thing they're good at is getting the prefered graphics, which makes their card run a bit smoother, but ATI's getting the same performances without the prefered graphics.can't wait for R520 !

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

Sure it makes sense, maybe u don't make sense. I already have a X850XT PE, and I would love to get a R520 and run them both.i think you didnt get what i meant to say. performance wise it makes much sense, no doubt, but if the anisotropic filter or antialaising quality on fudo is better than on the x800 series you will have different image quality on the screen, imagine a line is antialaised by x800 in one field and in the next field by the r520, the quality will on two different levels which will be quite annoying and bad for the overall quality. so think twice about saying what doesn't make sense.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"this card will be outdated and considered crap in a year.on another note, video cards are getting way to big. duh!, invent new techology where the card doesn't need to be so big."that is so true. why don't they build cards with the 6800/x800 features on smaller pcbs and optimize the drivers and more importantly the power management.doubling the number of pipes is not the way to go imo

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"i'm going to hook up 500 million 6800ultras on to one computer and get the INFINITE FRAMES PER MILLI SECOUND!"Sry, nvidias inferior technology doesnt allow more than 2...aww....so sad, i may start crying out of pity for them

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"Sry, nvidias inferior technology doesnt allow more than 2...aww....so sad, i may start crying out of pity for them"at least nvidias inferior technology is available and not just part of rumors. btw using two cards doesnt make that much sense since cpu/ram are a bottleneck for even one card. furthermore i don't wanna know how much power more than 2 cards require and how much nitrogen is needed to prevent your sys from overheating. in that respect both ati and nvidia suck. they want high fps rates and high 3dmark scores, but 95% of all end users don't need 200+ fps since a "normal" monitor doesn't support more than 100hz, and the 5% that can't live without such fps rates should get a real life coz it has the best image quality i've ever seen, and most importantly, it runs @ 25fps with no lag. seriously, imo gaming/computers in general is a hobby and nothing more, too bad that some people don't seem to realize that.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

"at least nvidias inferior technology is available and not just part of rumors"Definition of rumor: "A piece of unverified information of uncertain origin usually spread by word of mouth"And seeing that its a real thing and its been real for a while now (and IS available)...ur pretty retarded

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

im american and i hate nvidia, im all for ATi! ATi has WAY better drivers than nvidia atm, since nvidia niow has crappy things they call beta drivers which crash 2 games for every one they fix lol. And the post about nvidia running games better? thats not true at ALL. Boith cards run them the saem basically (at = specs) excep for the drivers. and if anything, ive heard much better and smoother quality from ati cards.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

Listen bitches, the 6800ultra is old technology now, the R520 launch is around the corner. The R520 will offer new shit. If you are currently running SLI than you're an idiot, one R520 is more powerful. Now you have to get rid of two cards if you want to upgrade.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

w8 for nVidia cell chip based card and ATI's xbox2 type card.Yeah, DX is a bitch, it's only new DXs that require card upgrades, i bet msoft will b wankers n add support for that stupid ppu and give ATI a head start. PPU is stupid cos they cud invent a new method then ud b fuked.

ATI New Board With 32 Pipelines

I dunno much about these things but... the X850 was a little better than the 6800 ultra wasn't it? Yet they come out with a BETTER one... come in nVidia lets see a killer new one! Hehehe, competition is getting strong, they seem to come out with a new card every week! Good for us!

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