Cell Yields Troubling Sony

According to a report on the Inquirer.net Sony is facing problems with the yields of its Cell microprocessor, to such an extent that insiders have described the numbers of "good" dies that are coming off the test wafers as horrible.

Industry insiders are not surprised and agree that any chip, built from the ground up, such as Cell is expected to have a shaky start. IBM, Sony's partner in the Cell, has faced yield issues in the past with its G5 chip but claims to have the expertise to recover. This news however does question Sony's ability to stage a global launch in November 2006 as promised. Sony may have to revise its strategy if it wants to avoid the embarrassing shortages experienced by its rival Microsoft during its XBox 360 launch late last year.

Test runs on new chips rarely produce excellent results but they can serve as indicators of what you can expect during production runs. These issues may be the reason Sony will not have a playable PS3 available during E3 while they may also be behind complaints by developers that they have not yet seen a working unit.

Sony' insistence on using proprietary technologies may be one of the reasons it has faced so many delays with PlayStation 3. The biggest issue facing the new console however is not manufacturing; those problems will be sorted out eventually. Sony's main PS3 headache will be teaching developers how to fully utilize the new architecture.

We expect further news to be revealed during E3 2006 and MegaGames will be there for you.

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Cell Yields Troubling Sony

O dear probly the only one to do big changes with its self and everyone even the critics think it would go all smoothly etc. More fool everyone. They knew the risks they were taking with building it from the ground up and now they are gonan deal with it. Ive seen MGS4 Running of a dev kit from a showing with Hideo and his crew and it looks just like the demo and they say they havent touched its full potential. So I can wait as long as it needs to be cos, why rush and have more problems? Anyways if I do change my mind I can always get one of the other consols.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Now dont cry...I knwo this will hurt being shown your dumb...Look for it! The file name for it I got is... Metal_Gear_Solid_4_Real_Time_TGS_PS3_DevKit_Demo_Eng_Subs.wmvGoogle it, file front should be top of google search!!HAHAHA You dumb f**kING 12year old STFU next time!!Google it!

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

once again dumn sony kids talking about msg4 on a dev kit....anything new sony?? one game on a DEV kit is gettin old....oh yeah and did anyone else see the post that the ATI gpu in the x360 is far superior...capable of displayin dx10esque graphics while sony is not........? eat that sony fanboys

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

So what's the big deal? They've got what, 7 or 8 months until release...new technology is new technology. And seeing the horrendous availability of the 360 at release, this is nothing but some news only developers need to care about. Wait for the release.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Anonymous at 14:31 6/5/2006 that mgs4 video was more impressive than any 360 game out right now, and like I said, release is 7-8 months away! So seeing that, don't drop all this techno babble you copied from other forums that doesn't mean s**t to someone wanting to play a game that looks good.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Time is money, ease of planning and able to solve potential problems that will occur, with it's partners and the manufacturing. Sony is in trouble now, the more it's fans/people have to wait, the more WII and X360 gets more exposure. Looks like it could be an X360 & WII war.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

"that mgs4 video was more impressive than any 360 game out right now, and like I said, release is 7-8 months away!"So true."So seeing that, don't drop all this techno babble"Techno babble? What? ATI Gpu? dx10esque?ATI Gpu = Graphics processor made by ATI.dx10esque graphics = Horrible way of saying "DirectX 10 like graphics".This is far from techno babble though."that doesn't mean s**t to someone wanting to play a game that looks good."Actually, very FEW thing mean something to that sort of people.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

once again back to the same crap....ONE game that runs on a system that in fact isnt running still and its release is about 7 mos away....360's were shown running and playable demos almost a year before release....i feel sorry for the people dumping 600 or 700(possibly) dollars on this system to play one game....by then 360 will have 40+ games out that look just as good if not better....any thing else? and dont mention msg4...its ONE game...and your right that wasnt tech babble...that was terms even the sony console kids SHOULD be able to understand....but i guess you googled it and translated lamens terms into sentences....even if the mgs4 video is impressive you gotta have a machine that actually runs to play it

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

the point I was trying to make when I said techno babble was that the evidence people give about hardware in these systems in the end won't make crap difference, seeing, um, the MGS4 video. Don't worry, I know what he meant.Anonymous at 20:47 6/5/2006 you idiot the PS3 is most likely going to be 400 USD at release...dumass.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

another thing Anonymous at 20:47 6/5/2006, that video was run straight off the dev kit for the PS3. You'd know if you saw it. And it's not like the PS3 will have one game on release...we've all seen articles here on Megagames that said 10 I believe. 10 is fine, especially if it includes MGS4 looking like that! I'm not even going to get it until the first price drop and the games I'm waiting for are out, so no matter.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Ok Ok All im botherd about is..."dx10esque graphics = Horrible way of saying "DirectX 10 like graphics"Yea bollox!!!Thats aint dx10 stuff, go look at the new Crysis game images and graphics, THATS DX10! lol fool not like it, either is, or isnt.O and YEA its one f**king game, one f**king game thats actualy BEEN shown running of a dev kit so far. SO f**kING YEA ITS JUST ONE GAME! But on release there wont be just one game. Can you deal with that!

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Xcrap360 and Wiiwii fanboys are happy-go-lucky so anything based on rumors makes them wanna jump from a cliff.You are all just nervous because you know PS3 will be blasting everywhere and once again will dominate the console titles :)

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

teh truth and Guruboy at it again. I will wait to see how MGS4 looks when it is released. Sony also said KillZone was running in realtime. :P and that was actually gameplay. Moreover, have you seen G.R.A.W. (Ghost Recon) for the Xbox360? Best looking game to date bar none with solid frame rates. The thing that Sony should be concearned about is not chip production, but developers catching on quickly to produce games at maximum level before the Xbox360 does. By the looks of things, that might take a few years.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Yawn* old news, old news...and old news. Xbox fanboys digging for reasons to diss the PS3. We all know the PS3 videos at E3 were prerendered. We all know it's one game. We've heard crap from both sides about E3. Anonymousat 14:16 that 3rd sentence you wrote makes absolutely no sense. And Sony definately never said the Killzone video was in game anyways.GRAW is for PC, Gamecube, PS2, AND will be for PS3...dumass. Who cares if it's also for the 360? Doesn't mean s**t.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Ha Ha Sony is going the way of the Sega Dreamcast.I'm going to wii my pants thinking about teh truth and Guruboy crying in front of their $700 brick looking at the word cancelled against all the PS3 games.Oh well at least they will have their prerendered MGS4 video to look at. lol

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

f**king retards...Againg I will say google and d/l Metal_Gear_Solid_4_Real_Time_TGS_PS3_DevKit_Demo_Eng_Subs.wmvWatch it in real time of a dev kit you retards!! NOW STOP CRYING!!!O and if the PS3 does end up s**t, then Im gonna get a Wii!

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

WoW!!! Just looked at the Metal_Gear_Solid_4_Real_Time_TGS_PS3_DevKit_Demo_Eng_Subs.wmv.teh truth, do actually get to shoot anybody or is this game about keeping Snakes moustache trim and tidy. Whats that machine with snake? Is it the newRemington facial hair trimmer 3000?I can't say this movie makes me want to me rush out and preorder a PS3. Hopefully E3 will give me something to get excited about, but I'm not holding my breath.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

wow, I just saw that MGS4 video and im not impressed. Why? Where are all the polygons on screen at once? Sony even tried to boast their gpu power with that fish schools demo, but anyone who has worked with graphics before can say each fish had 30 polys max with low res textures. Moreoever, the scene near the end when he's talking to that little robot, the frames were hitting mid 20's. Changing lighting? Yawn, I can do that in Age of Empires 3 in realtime too. I want solid evidence of a game running in it's intended enviroment, not dev kit scenes that play for under a minute with low poly, faded out enviroments.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

OMFG you are retards!! Im not gonna even f**king reply to you lot any more, if you cant read the stupid subtitles sayings ITS STILL IN DEVELOPMENT AND ITS A DEMO! Then you can just f**k off!Bunch of idiots! I bet ya all knew about the planned improved dye etc of the 360 but yet still brought it stright away!

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

Teh Truth is the worst kind of fanboy. Anyone who can't take others criticism without flipping out is just a child. Get some thicker skin man, you sound like a little kid who was just told that his dad is a pussy.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

No, I get fed up with all you retarded bulls**t. I flip out once and im some kid?! Thats the stupid s**t I have to put up with, especialy when you cant read and ya still f**king moan. SO say woteva ya like, cos you can, cos ya hiding behind some monitor!! f**k you all!! Keeping America Smart... Also, prove im a fanboy of sony? Just cos I back them up with stuff thats real doesnt make me a fan. Ive also backed Wii! See what I mean?! jsut bunch of f**kign tools that jsut find s**t to pick on. Say whateva ya want, but f**k ya all and ya fanboy bulls**t that ya all say about everyone!!

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

"Sony definately never said the Killzone video was in game anyways."Actually Guruboy, Sony NEVER refuted the fact when it was brought up. They let everyone at E3 and the press BELIEVE that it was the IN GAME engine running in real-time. It was only when the issue was further pressed did Sony tell that it was not. Sony is also claiming how it has the ability to run all games in 1080 resolution and the Xbox360 cannot. They are correct.With a hitch. The Xbox360 does not have the ability to run games at that res, however PS3 has the ability but will be too slow to run it. Nvidia let the cat out of the bag on that one in a recent interview.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

...No current console will be able to run games at playable frame rates at 1080. The reason MS decided not to go that route and Nintendo.So when i hear all the Sony Hype. I just laugh and say.."here we go again" teh truth and Guruboy believe everything Sony says and dictates. That's what we call a fanboy. And teh truth is a 12 year old fanboy to boot. The worst sort.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

I lay done facts and opinions from recent consols and so on. I said I saw the MGS4 demo IN devlopment of a dev kit, and I proved it. I said that PS3 will have the largets games list probly due to the fact that ps2 does. I said that they knew the problems of doing the cell from ground up and gotta deal with the dye problems etc. Your just picking at stuff wheather you care or not, just to b***h about and say we are fan boys blah blah. O for the last time, Ive also backed up Nintendo. At least they dont pick at crap to call people fans or woteva cos they are either scared about the consol that person/people are tlaking about or they cant say anything clever or open minded. MS is hated due to the fact of all you dim wits that slag off people with the o so clever term, "12 year old fan boy" Which you think ends all topics thats been brought up.

Cell Yields Troubling Sony

teh truth, no one is saying that you did not see the MSG4 video. You gave us all a link. Thanks for that. What many are saying is MSGS4 is not that amazing as YOU claim it is. And i have to agree with that. I have seen the video. It's ok. It's not that great as you are claiming it to be. Regardless if it's in the beta stage.

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