E3: The Gadget Wars

E3 has finally opened its showroom floor doors and although the show is all about games, as well it should be, some hardware details have been revealed which make the next-generation struggle even more interesting.

Microsoft has revealed the add-on HD-DVD unit which is expected to retail for less than stand alone players (some claim for as little as USD 100) and will be available to X360 owners in November 2006. The release of this drive, coupled with an expected price cut of around USD 80 on the console itself is expected to make the combination an enticing alternative to Sony's USD 499, limited functionality, PS3 with its Blu-Ray drive.

As we have mentioned in the past, the real war this time around has to be that of the next-generation DVD format and it seems that round 1 may have been won by Microsoft. Sony fans suggest that the price, surprisingly revealed at the pre-E3 event instead of August as is usually the case, may be a Sony trick and a lower price may be revealed later on. Those with inside knowledge of the cost of making the Cell chip and a PS3 console however, say that it is unlikely that the price will be lowered before spring 2007.

Microsoft also announced that the eye-toy like attachment for X360, first shown at E3 2005, will be called Vision and will surface in November 2006 allowing players on XBox Live to see each other's expressions during gameplay.

Nintendo, titleholder of the exciting gadget trophy for 2006, is using its booth to showcase games but also a smart addition to its controller add-ons. The light-gun shell for the Wiimote will plug in at the base of the controller and will offer a trigger that will simulate the B button, found in the rear of the controller, and an analog stick at the top of the handle.

All these additional hardware extras may not improve a terrible game but they definitely seem like they will be great fun to use during gaming.

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Sony Desperately needs Blu-Ray to take off. If it fails. So will the PS3. If this istrue with the add on. Sony is in for one tuff ride. less then $100 for a HD-DVD drive when they will retail for $499+?But you can buy the Core Xbxo360 system then the HD-DVD. This sytem has the advantage of upgrading to all the missing features of the Premium unit if you want to. You cannot do that with the Basic PS3 console. Period. Moreover, with the almost gureentee price drop in November for the Xbxo360, getting the full unit with the HD-DVD wil work out cheaper then the 2 PS3 units regardless. Price is going to kill the PS3. No console retailing above $500 has ever survived or done well. Ever.

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Blueray has Sony Dell, Hitachi, Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Philips, Pioneer, Samsung, Sharp and TDK.HD-DVD has Toshiba sekä Microsoft, NEC, Sanyo ja Intel.My guess is that blueray will win this one.

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Depends on price of Blu-Ray. If HD-DVD is alot cheaper, and it seems it will be for now, then HD-DVD will win. Est price for Blu-ray at release: $999.99. Est price for HD-DVD at release $499.99History repeatedly has shown cheaper technology always wins. Everytime.

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The scary part is the visual differences between HD-DVD and Blu-ray are almost non-existant. Also, the differencs between regular DVD's and Blu-Ray and HD-DVD's are almost the same also. This differs from VHS vs. DVD's when they came out. Visual quality was HUGE over VHS. Not the case now with these new drives. Case in point: It has taken over 10 years for consumers to finally ditch VHS players in favour of DVD's. How long do you think it will take regular consumers to ditch DVD's for these new formats when they almost look the same to the avergae viewer? :P

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The only true difference between these new players and DVD's are storage space. And personally i can't see how they can fill 50gigs let alone 15-25gigs of "extra content" for movies. The same applies for games. At least in the near future.

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Blue Ray players will cost almost double that of HD-DVD players. $1000+ VS. $499.Not to mention the very Blue Ray disks will also cost substantially more. The kicker to all this? Visual output for both formats are the exact same as they use the exact same codec. So in essence you are paying double to have disks that hold more space that no movies will ever fill nor games will ever fully use. Unless you want 15 extra gigs of FMV.

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Recent interview from Sony. Unreal! They are f**ked and egomaniacs. They have screwed themselves. Telling us consumers that we are "lucky" to buy the PS3 for that price. And that its actually cheap. ??????WHAT THE f**k!Go to Techreport to read the whole details. f**k i hate Sony.

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I'm upset about the Wii controller.How are the overweight children of the USA going to fit their fat little fingers through that tiny trigger hole?Nintendo makes sturdy hardware, but a controller can take only so much McDonald's grease as finger lube...

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Quite rightly so, the USA is a massive market and very few of them will be prepared to move their hands to such an extent in order to play games. For the european and asian market the wii controller is ideal, since they all have intelligent healthy people.

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some of u guys are just plain stupid... how they going to fill all the space... well HD videos... go to microsoft website, there are some samples... you can get the 720i (1280x720 interlaced) Taxi sample... its just 2 mins of video and its about 300MB... thing is... its not even the highest quality of the HD which goes up to 1080p (1920x1080 Progressive)...hey... when you guys find a pc game with better grafic quality of a PS2 GT4, let me know... you know that the PS2 has a grafic card of just 4Mb clocked at 147 MHz, its got 32 of RAM and a CPU of about 300Mhz

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* Armageddon* The Brothers Grimm* Chicken Little* Dark Water* Dinosaur* Everest* Flightplan* The Great Raid* Hero* The Incredibles* Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back* Kill Bill Vol. 1* Ladder 49* Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl* Æon Flux* Four Brothers* Italian Job* Manchurian Candidate* Mission Impossible Trilogy (I, II and III)* Sahara* Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow* Sleepy Hollow* Lara Croft: Tomb Raider* U2: Rattle & Hum* We Were Soldiers* Basic Instinct* Crash* The Devil's Rejects* Frank Herbert's Dune (miniseries)* Lord of War* The Punisher* Rambo: First Blood* Reservoir Dogs* Saw* See No Evil* Terminator 2: Judgment Day* Total Recall

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here are some of the movies set to launch on Blu-ray:* Behind Enemy Lines* Fantastic Four* Ice Age* Kiss of the Dragon* The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen* Basic Instinct* Crash* The Devil's Rejects* Frank Herbert's Dune (miniseries)* Lord of War* The Punisher* Rambo: First Blood* Reservoir Dogs* Saw* See No Evil* Terminator 2: Judgment Day* Total Recall* Batman Begins* Charlie and the Chocolate Factory* Constantine* The Dukes of Hazzard* GoodFellas* The Last Samurai* Lethal Weapon* The Matrix* The Matrix Reloaded* The Matrix Revolutions* Million Dollar Baby* Ocean's Twelve* Swordfish* Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines* Training Day* Troy* Twister* Unforgiven* The Amityville Horror* Black Hawk Down* Bram Stoker's Dracula* The Bridge on the River Kwai* Desperado* The Fifth Element* For a Few Dollars More* The Guns of Navarone* Hitch* House of Flying Daggers* Into the Blue* A Knight's Tale* Kung Fu Hustle* The Last Waltz* Legends of the Fall* Resident Evil* Resident Evil: Apocalypse* RoboCop* Sense and Sensibility* Species* Spider-Man* Stargate Atlantis* Stealth* S.W.A.T.* Underworld: Evolution* XXX* XXX: State of the Union

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Blu-ray partners...Apple, Dell, HP, Hitachi, LG, Mitsubishi electric, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK, Thomson, 20th Fox Century, Walt Disney, Warner Bros.Layer capacity:Single - 33GbDual - 54GbQuad - 100Gb8 Layer - 200Gb

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HD-DVD movies:The Last SamuraiMillion Dollar BabyThe Phantom of the OperaSerenityPartners:Toshiba, Nec, Sanyo, Intel, MS, Paramount, Universal, Warner Bros.Layer Capacity:single - 15gbdual - 30gbtripl - 45gb

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so im going to have to buy all my dvds again?? god damn it!!does blue-ray play regular dvds?can it make the f**king tea too...at that price it should!I hate ForcewareSony you suck!!Mini Disc was supposed to be great, it aint!UMD was suppose to be great, it aint!didnt sony do beta years ago??

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That list you made up only applies IF and only IF Blu-Ray wins the format war. Which is looking grim and grimmer by every passing day as prices for Blu-Ray disks and players are revealed.

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That list you MADE. Is ficticious. The only ones that i will believe would be movies under the Sony Corp movie studios. The rest are made up. Reason? Only 2 confirmed titles are available at launch time in june for the PS3! LOL You are a Sony fanboy to make up a list like that to try and b.s everyone. lol

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When Blue Ray players cost $1000 AND hd-dvd COST $499.99, you can pretty much guess which player people will get. This was the death of the Betamax. It was superior in everyway however, it was alot more then VHS.Blue Ray is looking the same here.The big hurdle Sony has to jump here like UMD which also failed is the fact that BLUE RAY looks the same as HD-DVD. It uses the same codec. Blue Ray has a huge price hill to climb.A price hill Sony has never been able to climb. Ever.

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No movie will use 50 gigs of content or more at this time. Let alone games. Not even Unreal 3.Format changes are always decided by joe average consumer. Joe average consumer ALWAY, ALWAYS, ALWAYS bases his/her decision on PRICE. Always.

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Sony has a pretty bad track record with formats. UMD and Betamax and Mini-Disks. Not one of those were successful.Just a little food for thought for the person who made up that list. ;)UMD format for Sony had all the backing from all the major movie houses to bring out movies for the PSP. The list was actually very impressive. In the end it did not matter. The production cost of UMD Wwas more then movies on DVD. All those movie houses pulled support.Blu-Ray disks and production costs are 2x that of HD-DVD and considerably higher then regular DVD's. Like all other Sony formats that failed. I don't hold hopes for Blu-Ray because of high cost

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"hey... when you guys find a pc game with better grafic quality of a PS2 GT4, let me know..."F.E.A.R, DOOM3, HL2, OBLIVION:Elder Scrolls, Ghost Recon:Advance War Fighter, Splinter Cell, FarCry...the list goes on. The PS2 can not produce HDR effects. Cannot produce anti-alaising and Ansiotropic filtering without HUGE frame rate loss. Cannot render water with realism seen in Oblivion or F.E.A.R.I could spend days listing games that look totally superior to anything the PS2 can put out. NO NEED. YOU GET THE POINT. :p

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UMD disks proved that having lots of studio support means f**king diddly when production costs are too f**king high. They all pulled out. Blue-Ray like all of Sony's other failed ideas to get people to use their formats will also fail. Too f**king expensive Sony. When will you assholes ever learn? You did it 3 f**king times and still did not learn.

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Anonymousat 8:11 16/5/2006Great question. Best question asked on this forum. HD TV's are still a niche market. Only 10-18% of households own one. This is the main reason why most people will not know the difference bewteen a $1000 BLU-RAY player or a $499.99 HD-DVD player and the ever cheaper DVD player for $49.99. Most consumers do not have the TV's to exploit thses new machines capabilities. The reason most people will wait to see who wins the format war. Look how long it took VHS to be replaced by DVD's? 10 years! How long do you think it's going to take HD-DVD 's and Blu-Ray to replace DVD's when they look almost similar? lol. We have a LONG LONG WAIT ladies.

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"It is absolutely terrifying to think that 6 months away from launch, developers have no PS3 dev kits and no real specs on the console. Had this been some “unnamed developer” I wouldn’t even bother with this story but it is the President of Sega and the CEO of THQ making these claims. If Sega and THQ can’t get dev kits, something is seriously wrong."-hardocp-

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only problem is, Sony have sooo much money! will it deter them from the games industry? probably not, they have turned the industry into a crazed money driven machine and they'll always TRY to stake a claim, at any cost.im just gonna turn my back and let them shaft whoever is will to be shafted.sony suck

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"only problem is, Sony have sooo much money!"They don't have that much money to burn. They just turned their first profit from losing money over the past 5 years. All their other divisions have lost money. It was only the console division(Playstation) that kept them afloat. People need to read the financials sometimes. This is why Sony is praying Blu-Ray takes off or they are royally f**ked

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Sony won't go under anytime soon, however this Blu-Ray venture and the PS3 $600 console will hurt them even more finacially. So much so that MS revealed they wont lower the price of the Xbxo360 at time of PS3 launch because Sony's idiotic pricing scheme.

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