Intel PIII outperforms P4

The verdict is in: While Intel Corp.'s latest Pentium 4 offers superior multimedia performance, the Pentium III is still the best chip for business applications.

Analysts and hardware review sites gave their stamp of approval to the chip as a gaming microprocessor. But the 1.0-GHz Pentium III actually outperformed a 1.4-GHz Pentium 4 on common business applications, they found.

Furthermore, analysts said, few need a 1.4-GHz Pentium 4 -- or a 1.0-GHz Pentium III, for that matter -- to run a word processing program. Without a performance advantage, the Pentium 4 will likely be restricted to only the consumer market.

"It runs Office fast enough," said Dean McCarron, analyst with Mercury Research Corp., Scottsdale, Ariz. "And for a Quake head, yeah, [the Pentium 4] makes a lot of sense."

On a test system running id Software Inc.'s popular game, Quake 3, the 1.5-GHz Pentium 4 returned a frame rate of 168.7. A 1.0-GHz Pentium III, meanwhile, scored 121.4 fps -- a 39 percent improvement. Mercury tested the chip itself and posted the results on its consumer-oriented website.

Using the WinBench 2000 benchmark, which tracks performance under a business-class environment, the Pentium 4 chip only slightly edged the Pentium III using 3-D-oriented applications, Mercury found.

In 2-D applications, however, the older Pentium III outperformed the Pentium 4 by 28 percent, even though the newer Pentium 4 supposedly is a third faster on clock speed alone.

"For today's buyer, the Pentium 4 simply doesn't make sense," wrote Anand Lal Shimpi, a reviewer that runs the AnandTech website. "It's slower than the competition in just about every area; it's more expensive; it's using an interface that won't be the flagship interface in six to nine months; and it requires a considerable investment outside of the price of the CPU itself."

Shimpi and others pointed out that Pentium III is cheaper; a 1.0-GHz chip costs $465, after Intel's price cuts at the beginning of November. As previously reported, the Pentium 4 costs $819 and $644 for the 1.5-GHz and 1.4-GHz versions, respectively. OEMs must also buy more expensive Direct RDRAM memory, which at retail costs about $240 more than SDRAM for a 128-Mbyte module, analysts noted.

Still, the chip will appeal to some segments of the computing population.

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Intel PIII outperforms P4

Right... Before you ppl start thinking of the next extremly interesting comment to write, stop.....My comment is not about whos best.I love neither.I have had my very first PC for about a year.I used to use an amiga 500,but sadly i realized it was time to move on.Being a poor man i bought a cheap pc from comet with an AMD K6-2 450.A budget system it definetly was, as it only had 32mb of simple RAM,a dodgy 8 mb SIS graphics card and a 4 GIG hdd.Over the past year i have learnt alot about PCs and how they work and now earn my living as General PC maintenance man.I succumbed to the PC spending bug and decided to upgrade my comp.I now have 224mb of ram,30 gig hdd, V3 2000 graphics(as it was only 20 quid of a mate)card,52xcd-rom and a 8-4-32CDRW.It has always been reliable and i always squeeze as much out of my K6 as possible.It DOES play every game, ive never downloaded any patches for my cpu because of compatability probs.So unless it was for earlier models, the ppl who say you need patches for K6-2s are wrong! I dont know AMD history and i dont claim to be some kind of expert but i do know how to look after my system and run it for extra optimum peformance.Youd be suprised buy the amount of ppl out there who blame the hardware for their own mistakes.My mate has just bought a PIII 650 and his brother bought a PIIIE 600,both exactly the same comp.but different processor.Some ppl in the know,may shudder when i tell you it was a TINY PC.(Against my better judgement mind you,after having fixing loads of em, but they bought em anyway).Now i dont know what the E at the end of PIII 600E stands for but it must make a difference. Because,it makes the other 650 look a bit tame in EVERYTHING it does.Remember,these comps. are identical in EVERYWAY (drivers,hardware,software,etc)except the cpus.Also,im sorry to dissapoint ppl but Intels CPUs arent without there probs. as much as any other cpu.(someone earlier stated AMD crash and Intel never do).Like i said,im not an engin

Intel PIII outperforms P4

I did write lots more, but it seems too much as it didnt all go up.PPL,read the first comment underneath.Carrying on...my main point was, AMD is for, as some said before the "poor man" and Intel are renouned for quality and their own unique visibly noticable polished performance.AMD has bargain performance for the money,ppl should stop slating them and start to actually realize that AMD cpus are faster and reliable in most general factors of computing.And while sypathizing with the loyal intel suporters for paying so much and being there in the beginning,the reason why Intel looks less appealing is because AMD has opened up the market for the small fry (myself incuded)and the AMD supporters cant understand,after only just joining the rat race,why loyal intel ppl would want to pay so much, when it seems you can get so much more for less.I myself am about to upgrade and i will probably go AMD out of price. But if Intel would make a high quality chip like normal with the same speed and performance of a T-Bird and the right price tag,i would buy it tommorrow. Remember grown-ups,children are the only ones who think it is funny to make up rubbish and swear at ppl on the internet.So dont reply to lame comments like Intel SUX,AMD SUX ok.Remember, im not saying one is better than the other.Im just stating my opinion!What a mouthful!Thanks for reading! I shall look foward to some mature replies.

Intel PIII outperforms P4

But think about this....practicaly all the tests on the P4 are from the beta version with the crappy bios. I have a friend that bought one and is playing with the bios and made it a bit better(he said 3 times faster). They just need to fix a few things on it and it will be a good chip. I would probably wait about 6 months to get one or a year...to make sure some kincks are out and they started to maximize the preformance on the P4 chip. Yes the PIII out preforms the P4 ....in SOME areas...but that could be fixed with time(if the idiots think for a bit). Research a little more......

Intel PIII outperforms P4

chocoplot, you are funny!hahahahap4 cooler name than amdthe only time intel was better in this, was when amd didnt have the athlon yetsince then amd has the best name, advanced micro devices Athlon, thats much cooler than intels crapnow intel has the p4, and amd the Thunderbird, again much cooler name, and intel keeps on with their pentium, pentium, pentium bla bla blafurthermore it doesnt really matter what the names are, its the performance that matters and as for that i have a very short answer:Thunderbird is 10% faster than the p3Thunderbird is 40% cheaper than the p3when you realise that the p4 isnt such a big improvement over the p3 and the DDR thunderbird is a HUGE improvement over the normal thunderbird...well, i've said enough i think, its clear now

Intel PIII outperforms P4

I used to be AMD through and through, but I have been taken by the ways of the P3-850E, such a versatile chip. Without clocking it, I get the same 3D benchmark as my mates 1GHz Athlon running a 64MB GeForce 2. This isn't a 'mine is better than yours' just an observation in a room full of AMD praise.

Intel PIII outperforms P4

I think that this 'my brand is better than your brand' **** has gone on long enough. I want to ask you people when your playing Quake 3 using a P-3 1ghz or a Athlon 1ghz are you really gonna notice a difference of 20 or so frames per second when the speed is like 100fps? I think not. While one may be better than the other, this is so minimal at the super fast speeds they are running at it really should not mean ****. I myself own a K6-2 380 (i know its a peice of ****) and if you offered me a choice of two similarly clocked computers, one Athlon one P-3, i would just have to spin around with my eyes closed and take the one im facing at the end. My point? Don't worry about slight differences in these chips cause at the speed they run at your never gonna know unless you use hardcore diagnostic tools.

Intel PIII outperforms P4

I think it's wrong to justify processors just by looking at their clock speeds. Alot of ppl I know wanted to buy pretty much the latest out there. (Without looking at any specs, they jump to their conclusions by saying that "ooh...I'm gonna get this and I'll kick ur ***!") It's just bullshit altogether, why don't we check our heads in the local service area? It doesn't matter how good or bad p4 is compared to p3, we won't be seeing much of a difference anyway for at least another 2 or so yrs. Y spend so much money now when we can spend a decent amount on a p3-800e for example. I mean, that can last you a couple of yrs.

Intel PIII outperforms P4

I think anyone who boasts about having a fast processor is stupid. If you have a processor above the 366mhz range you should be happy. Consider this: the minimal requirement for most games these days is 233mhz!If you combine a 333 or 366 with a decent Video card, you'll get around 20 frames in Unreal Tournament in 800x600...Very playable.And I'm not saying this to defend my system, I have an AMD Duron 650mhz. I have nothing against Intel, nor Cyrix for that matter... Just remember, There's hardly any NOTICABLE difference between Intel and AMD. It's only the easily fooled that believe this!

Intel PIII outperforms P4

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Intel PIII outperforms P4

I wholeheartedly back the argument that Pentium III is better than Pentium 4, or just as good.Is there such a proof?Well, besides this article that outraged some of you, I have Pentium III 733MHZ. I was able to run Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorow, all graphics options set to Maximum and the game ran amazingly solid and VERY stable.Another game, Prince of Persia: Sands of time, they claim the minimum is 1GHZ CPU, well I NEVER had a problem with this game either!The only upgrade I did was with the VideoCard, that's about it.The case with "Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorow" is that they make the game engine ONLY runs on P4 systems. I grabbed the exe of their demo, and used it to launch the game.Did it work? YES! So, the questions that forces itself upon us: is upgrading from P3 to P4 ACTUALLY that significant? If P3 systems can run MOST games that require a minimum of P4 2GHZ processor, then why do those games work well with P3's????Another key note here... about 3 years ago, a friend of mine bought an AMD system (1.7 GHZ CPU), what is funny is that when he runs divx movies on the machine, the sound is choppy and playback quality is glitchy. Yet, the same movie (along with same codec) on a seemingly old and outdated P3 733, the movies playback is amazing!ESPCIALLY with any ATI Radeon Video Card that further enhances movie quality (6 Layers of filtering, done by Video Card GPU, instead of system processor).IT IS ONLY worthy to upgarde from P3 to the new generation of the P4's, which will have PCI Express as the standard.Other than that, save your money!!

Intel PIII outperforms P4

if you want a good gaming system, don'tspend your money on P4 .get a 1.2 GigK7 Thunderbird,DDR RAM and Ati Radeon ,the performance you will get will be greaterthen you will need for another year ,and will cost you half the price what u wouldpay for P4see ya ...rock on AMD

Intel PIII outperforms P4

personaly i still like the PIII. the P4 is just like a server processor for now. by this time next year they will be faster and cheeper. also RDRAM prices are droping slightly and Intel may be backing off that format all togeather.

Intel PIII outperforms P4

Pentium keeps making new processor technologies, but they should rather focus on making it cheaper so that the Processor would be affordable by all of us!! I would buy Pentium 3 for now and wait until Pentium 6 or 7 comes out!!

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