XBox Live - The Features

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As is the case every year, this year too saw E3 as a launch pad from which the giants of the gaming industry launched their corporate dreams. This year has seen the push for bringing the next generation of consoles online. All three major players, Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft, have presented some form of plan. As usual however, it was Microsoft who presented the most far-reaching and ambitious one.

Following the multitude of press releases and updates from Microsoft here is what Microsoft dreams XBox live will provide:

For your US$49.95 you will receive the XBox live pack, a one year subscription and a free voice communication headset, but that is only the beginning the real experience will begin the moment you plug everything in.

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Sign up just once and access Xbox Live games with your unique name, or Gamertag. You don't have to start over with each new game you buy. You don't have to adjust to a different online experience with each game you play. You always join the online community with the same name and the same reputation you've worked hard to get. You'll start recognizing other players and making new friends. Learn from each other and you may even start climbing the rankings together.

Voice Communication

How do you know you're playing a real person? Listen for the taunts of victory and groans of defeat. The Xbox Live Communicator headset allows you to use your voice like never before. The headset allows for games to do really amazing things, like changing the sound of your voice. Want to intimidate your opponents with a deep, threatening voice? Always wish you could sound like a robot? It's easy to do. Did your parents tell you not to talk to strangers? Chat only with your friends while you play. Shout out strategic commands to your teammates - it's way faster than trying to type them. (Do try to mute yourself before muttering about their incompetence.) If your game character is in a cave, your voice could echo off the walls. Catch up with old friends while you play. Who knew chatting with distant relatives could be this fun?

Making Friends

Xbox Live allows you to add other gamers to your Friends List. Enjoy competing with a particular player? Invite them to be your friend with a couple button presses from the pause menu. It's also easy to see if your friends are online and even what game they're playing. If they're already in a game, you can send them an invitation to join you. Of course, you can always delete your friends from the list if they're not what you expected. No worries, though - you're going to make so many new friends when you go Live that your old friends had better behave themselves.

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Playing an Xbox Live game with friends is fast. Just choose an Xbox game that is online-enabled. Start the game and select Play Live. Sign in and have Xbox Live matchmaking find your favorite style of gameplay. It may seem like luck the first time you find a perfect game match. Don't be fooled - it's the result of our skilled team sweating the details, all for you. (More on our skilled team in the coming weeks.)

Want the first available game so you can play right away?
We've got that.

Want to look for a specific map or game type?
Check!

Don't like laggy, choppy gaming?
We sort out the slowpokes for you.

Feel like teaming up with friends and ambushing an unsuspecting group of strangers?
No problem.

Looking for opponents who are your skill level?
Of course.

Whatever you choose, Xbox Live takes care of the set-up so you can save your energy for the important stuff - having fun, winning games, and talking trash!

Downloading New Content

Have you ever beaten a game that you really liked and gotten tired of it soon afterwards? Did you obtain every last item and finish every last quest? You may have gotten used to waiting a few years for the sequel to come out. Well, Xbox Live may ease some of that pain. With the ability to download new content from our servers, games may never get old. Imagine new cars, drivers, and race courses for your racing game. Maybe that first person shooter could use a new weapon, character skin, or capture-the-flag map. Role playing games could continually get new spells, equipment, or quests. Almost anything's possible. It's sort of like getting an expansion pack, but you choose only what you want. Why only get cool gifts on your birthday?

World Wide Service

With Xbox Live, you can enjoy multiplayer action with people everywhere. Thanks to the wonders of time zones, you always have a good chance of finding someone awake and ready to play. We knew there was a good reason for the earth being round.

Stay tuned for the first feature article with all the gritty details. We'll be covering all the cool things you can do with the Xbox Communicator and voice…Don't miss it.

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Sloose,Again, you require a lesson in tact don't you? Microsoft came out at E3 firing on cylinders. The Xbox will have nearly double the games out for that the PS2 did after 1 year. The Xbox will also have a working, beautiful, orginal online play system up and running. Sony just now after 1 and 1/2 years has 200 games out for their system. I believe the quote worth remebering here is 'a picture's worth a thousand words' and Microsoft is giving the picture that they're supporting their console to the upmost, and with truck loads of US Funding.Consumers I think will very quickly come around when they see the lack of ability support titles for the PS2's online strategy. Gamers like myself that enjoy the interactive side of Video gaming are going to be doing it on the Xbox.

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sloose: That is the general feeling about it.Tagge: I am reminded about a quote I once heard; "If the horse you are on dies, get off of it". That means that if what you are supporting is not going to make it, you should realise this and move on.One of my favorite systems was the Dreamcast and it took a while for me to realise that the system was going down fast. You should take a look at the situation of the xbox and reconsider your opinion.Here are some good articles to help your evaluation:[url removed] highlights from this one:"Microsoft has said it expects to have more than 200 games for the Xbox by the end of the year, but less than two dozen of those will be exclusive Xbox titles from third-party publishers. "And "Game publishers say it's a simple matter of economics. With Sony having sold more than 30 million PlayStation 2 units worldwide and the Xbox just edging up to the 4 million mark, they have to put their money where the market is. The result is that even the biggest Xbox supporters are producing two PlayStation 2 games for every Xbox title. "

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Another good article:[url removed] love this part:"If you want to bankrupt Microsoft, just go out and keep buying Xboxes, Doherty said. "They can't keep wrapping $200 bills around every Xbox they sell. It's not going to make Wall Street happy."And you should take note of this one tagge:"Microsoft has about 75 total games available for Xbox. The company expects to have 200 available by the end of December. Sony (SNE: news, chart, profile) expects to have 400 PlayStation 2 game titles by the end of the year, up from 230 at the end of last year. Nintendo has 45 game titles available now, and will have at least 150 by year's end."Games, not hardware capabiliies, are what makes or breaks a console. All I can say for microsoft is 'ouch'.

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chill guys, ok? just chiiiiilll....it think your all taking this a bit too seriously, i mean, its not like the end of either ps2 OR Xbox will change the outcome of the human race. besides, everyone knows that the only winner in this was is gonna be the PC, or maybe even nintendo... nah! PC ALL THE WAY!!!

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pc is good ssithnos, but pc and console often deliver quite different games. Oh and nintendo is in another category by itself since alot of its best content is in 2nd and 1st party games appealing to its already large fanbase.xbox is trying to play the cheapskate capitalizing on pc components and directx to easily convert hit pc games to console.Makes me wonder how many of the 200 xbox games will just be rehashed pc games since the conversion to xbox should be simple enough.And i'm not to fond of MS business practices so far - pressuring their component manufacturers to practically give away the parts in building an xbox. I mean look, they've already alienated nVidia and intel and are likely to move onto another set of manufacturers by september. Why doesn't MS use some of that "truck loads of US Funding" to actually pay off their debt. I mean thats poor business practice. On the other hand you have the uber-friendly relationship between sony, ibm, and toshiba to actually bring about new technology and actually develop better consoles in the future.

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Are you an xbox fan? I do not like it sloose-i-am. I am not an xbox fan.I would not it here or there. I would not play it anywhere. I am not an xbox fan. I do not like it sloose-i-am.Would you play it in a house? Would you play it with a mouse? i do not like it in a house. I do not like it with a mouse. I do not like it here or there, I do not like it anywhere!

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As I said before, personally I think online gaming needs at least another year to become big on consoles. Until then, Microsoft can piss in the wind for all I care. Consumers who are ademant about online play will stick with the pc for the most part. And ssithnos, i am CHILLED!

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Well I do agree with you MJ but don't count the xbox out yet. While I don't think it'll be as popular as the ps2 *ever* the recent price drop is helping its sales. We'll simply have to wait till christmas to see if xbox is a complete failure or a modest success. And I am not taking this to seriously, its just that you pay alot money on a console and when you hear people slagging it, you want to defend it. Uh oh, and here comes Tagge with a 3 page retort...

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I love online gaming and having consoles bring it to you is by far the best. Playing online with your pc affects many aspects towards your game play. In example, graphic card, ram, mhz of comp connection, etc. With online console gaming everyone will have the same thing. So no one gets a hardware "edge" over one another.

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Actually, after reviewing some E3 articles, I would have to say the ps2's online strategy is not that bad as I suspected. At least ps2 *had two online games running unlike microsoft's zero games. Sony even sported its own headset for online communication. Hopefully sony will produce an inexpensive package to get people's ps2 ready for online gameplay. As far as games went, ps2 had a great lineup of games, which I personally thought overall was better than xbox's. Especially if your an rpg fan which ps2 has a strangle-hold over.

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The problem with the PoS2's online stratagy is:1) You make people buy $60 - $150 worth of extra hardware.2) Have an fragmented network that could result in people giving up and some areas getting "bad covarage" because their routs to the server sucks.3) Have only large development houses making online games because it is to expencive to have the smaller houses to have the webservers and bandwidth.4) I suspect many post-it notes will be used to remember passwords (not that I mind, I own 3M stock).5) The hardware maker will not be taking an active roll in displaying the capability (Sony reps have said streight out that they intend to "wait and see" what it will be like first before they realy do much).6) You could theoreticly have 20 bills from 20 difrent companies on your credit cards to use their "pay to play" servers.

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PLAIN AND SIMPLE: LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF CONSOLES AND ANY SYSTEM THAT TRIED TO MAKE CONSUMERS PURCHASE EXTRA COMPONENTS TO INCREASE GAME PLAY VALUE FAILED. ALL OF THEM. PEOPLE BUY CONSOLES TO PLAY GAMES RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. THAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF OWNING ONE IN COMPARISON TO A PC. IE. NO NEED TO BUY THIS OR THAT OR UPGRADE....ETC.....HOWEVER, WITH TECHNOLOGY MOVING SO FAST NOW,(EVERY 6 MONTHS A NEW GPU) CONSOLES ARE FINDING THAT IT MOST UPGRADE SOME COMPONENTS IN ORDER TO INCREASE GAMEPLAY VALUE. YOU SPEND $200- $300 ON A CONSOLE AND THEN ARE TOLD YOU HAVE TO PURCHASE A HARDDRIVE AND BROADBAND CONNECTION TO PLAY ONLINE....IT WON'T HAPPEN. MOST PEOPLE WON'T GO FOR IT. X-BOX AT LEAST LOOKED INTO THE FUTURE FOR THIS. PS2...ONLINE GAMING WILL TANK UNTIL THE PS3 HITS THE MARKET. STICK TPO THE PC FOR ONLINE GAMING.......

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Yes, your eyes DON’T lie, I’ve returned. Here to slay dragons, and PS2 fan boys masquerading as ‘experts’. And, I’ll do it with half my brain behind my back folks; these weak agreements require a minimum of my attention span.Though, I question why I should even bother. Its apparent the few self-proclaimed gurus around here aren’t going to listen to anything but the sound of their own voices. It's obvious despite unending amounts of factual evidence people still live in their own little close-minded worlds.Sloose allow me to take care of the 'weakest link' first. You're nothing more that a 'go with the crowd' standard run-of-the-mill PS2 fan boy my polite friend. Everyone, please take note of this creature, the species is growing. Soon all will feel the intellectual effects so such sub-par thinking. Like a boil on the aft end of society this continual close-minded, unimaginative thinking is replicating itself. At first, I actually thought you might have the cranial capacity above that of your average squirrel, I was sorely mistaken.You see, the problem WITH Sony in the gaming console market is their too ‘comfortable’ in their position, and that will ultimately be their folly. Athine hit the nail right on the head here, Sony is playing the ‘wait and see’ game with their online gaming strategy. They’re allowing the game companies to handle building, securing, administrating and BILLING for their online play. So, say you’ve got 5 different games you play online, that could mean 5 different companies to deal with, 5 different servers, 5 different Logins / PWs, & 5 separate bills for playing those games. Does nobody else see a problem with that but me? It’s a redicuiously stupid move. MS is 1 connection, 1 server, 1 Bill ($49.95), & 100% broadband users. That reminds me of another amusing thing, to even PLAY some of these Online titles like say FFX, you’re required to have broadband access, and a hard drive, two expensive upgrades for PS2 gamers, things most p

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*** Cut-off Fix***That reminds me of another amusing thing, to even PLAY some of these Online titles like say FFX, you’re required to have broadband access, and a hard drive, two expensive upgrades for PS2 gamers, things most people aren’t going to want to buy. So yes Sony’s online play IS 56K as well as broadband, but I have yet to see any games for the PS2 online that don’t require the NIC upgrade. Squaresoft is only the first company to really make a mess of itself supporting Sony’s online strategy.

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MJ,I think I lied, your agruement is even more weak than I'd though now that I've read the few petty agruements you have to show us. So, please allow me to silence you doubts here and now as far as the validity of the XBox's claim to 200 titles. Our good friends at IGN have done a fairly simple listing of Xbox titles coming out this year:[url removed] here is a link to a forum worth posting on with a list of 'exclusive' Xbox titles.[url removed] and if I recall, you had mentioned somewhere before a lack of industry support for the Xbox, listed below is a run down of Game developers signed up to publish for the XBox, not including their internal firms: (Click On 'Developers')[url removed] I've said this to you before and this probably won't be the last time either. But, mabye evenetually just like Osmosis, it'll 'sink in'. If you're going to rant off, DO YOUR HOMEWORK before hand. Rather than quoting a few left-winged bais editors, find some accurate sources. Idiot.

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Tagge, actually trying to find a relevant point in all of your recent posts is a tedious job. More than half of what your saying is just mudslinging and insults directed towards myself and MJ. Calling someone an idiot for merely stating factual evidence makes you the fool. Truth is xbox IS losing money on every console sold, ps2 WILL have a larger game library by the end of the year -face it.You keep bringing up online play, but is everyone so eager about it. Oh yes I know you and xbox toting friends love the idea but there is no accurate way to determine if it will be successfull as quickly as Microsoft has hoped. Both sony and nintendo are using xbox as their guinea pig to see if its worth pursuing so soon.And your developer list is impressive, but that doesn't ensure they will be giving xbox their best games. They could give xbox lower-priority or if not satisfied drop out altogether. As for being "close-minded", you are so xbox biased that I found it amusing when you called me the same thing. At least i'll occasionally acknowledge the strengths of all three systems.

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ALREADY SOME PUBLISHERS HAVE JUMED SHIP ON THE X-BOX. POOR SALES WILL DO THAT. THEY ARE LOSING MONEY,AND THAT'S A FACT. NOT FICTION. AND MONEY DRIVES THE CONSOLE INDUSTRY AS EVERYTHING ELSE. MICROSOFT HAS THE BEST PLAN FOR ONLINE GAMING, THAT IS TRUE, HOWEVER, IT WILL NOT TAKE OFF FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS. WHICH WILL BE NEAR THE END OF THAT CONSOLES LIFE AND THE PS2...ONLINE GAMING IS THE PC'S DOMAIN. AS FOR THOSE 200+ GAMES...MOST ARE PC PORTS. I ADMIRE THE X-BOX FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A SYSTEM WITH DECENT HARDWARE, HOWEVER THE MOST POWERFUL SYSTEM ALMOST NEVER WINS IN CONSOLE WARS. THE INTELLIVISION LOST TO ATARI. THE COLECO-VISION DIED(PART IN FACT DUE TO THE CONSOLE CRASH OF 83-84) SEGA MASTER SYSTEM LOST TO THE NES. AND N64 LOST TO PLAYSTATION. IT'S GAMES AND AND HOW MANY SOFTWARE DEVELOPERS EACH CO. CAN GET ONBOARD. ALL THE PROMISING GAMES BEING RELEASED ON THE X-BOX ARE PC PORTS. WHICH WILL NOT COMPARE IN LOOKS OR GAMEPLAY TO THE PC.....

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THE ONE THING I CAN SAY THAT SONY HAS ON IT'S SIDE IS SHEER NUMBER OF UNITS SOLD AND IT'S NAME. X-BOX DOES NOT HAVE THAT. THE X-BOX IS A WANNA-BE PC. AND MOST OF THE GAMES COMING OUT FOR IT PROVE THAT. WILL THAT ATTRACT MORE BUYERS FOR THE SYSTEM? WILL BILL AND CO. SPEND MORE $$$ TO KEEP THE PROJECT FLOATING? MOST OF THE BIG TITLES COMING OUT FOR ALL THE SYSTEMS (NOT INCLUDING EXCLUSIVES) WILL ALL BE RELEASED FOR THE PS2 AND CUBE ALSO. FOR ME, I WOULD NOT BUY A X-BOX OR PS2, THE GAMES ARE NOT THAT INTICING FOR ME TO JUSTIFY THE EXPENSE. AS I AM A PC USER. I WILL BUY THE CUBE WHEN ZELDA AND PERFECT DARK AND METROID AND THE REST ARE RELEASED. THE REASON? THOSE ARE GAMES NO OTHER SYSTEM WILL HAVE. FOR THE X-BOX TO SURVIVE IT WILL HAVE TO CREATE SOME KICK A** EXCLUSIVES...HALO DON'T COUNT.......

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Hmm... better have my say.1. To Sloose and to the 1000's of other idiots. Could you pleeeeease stop claiming the $400US cost price for the XBX. It is the most stupid bullshit thing I have ever heard. There is NO WAY it costs as much as that. Think about how much it costs to build a cheap PC without a monitor. Now factor in that you are a CONSUMER. MS is a multi-billion $ company ordering these components in the millions. How much do you think they are paying?Personally, and I stress PERSONALLY, I think the real cost would be close to 1/2 of most estimates avaliable.

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FOR THE PERSON WHO DID NOT LEAVE HIS/HER NAME...MICROSOFT IS LOSING MONEY ON EVERY X-BOX UNIT SOLD. PERIOD. AND THAT'S NO SECRET. BILL AND COMPANY ARE WILLING FOR NOW TO SUCK IT UP AND STAY IN THIS RACE FOR THE TIME BEING.......

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Did I really say anything about the price of xbox? I might of stated that they're losing money on every console sold - WHICH IS TRUE. Do not compare the price of an xbox to a pc of similar configuration. Granted, xbox uses pc components, but they're specifically designed components which cost more than they're pc counterparts. Do you think the price in the store for a console is the same amount of money to build it? The PS2 only until recently begun to break even in its sales (i'm not to sure now with the price drop). Usually a console needs 2 or 3 years before production costs come down to the point where a company can finally stop losing money on it or even make a profit. Sure the production cost of xbox will come down in the coming months with its swapping for inferior components, but MS will still be losing money off it. I hope this answered you inquiry and please don't go around calling people idiot's - especially when you don't have your facts straight, it makes you look foolish.

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Found some intersting posts on another forum and I thought I'd let you guys see it. [url removed] way down the page someone posted that International Data Corp.'s IDC anticipates that Microsoft will charge $9.95 a month for the service that allows gamers to simultaneously talk, play and download content and game updates. Microsoft is also expected to charge $40-$50 a pop to access some online games by subscription, play in tournaments, and download updates. That added onto a $50 online pack doesn't make it to appealing anymore.There's also some fairly recent sales figures of xbox in Japan which shows it getting completely destroyed on the market. And before you say who cares, remember thats 1/3 of the total market.

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MICROSOFT KNEW THEY WOULD RUN INTO TROUBLES SELLING UNITS IN JAPAN. IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE THE TOTAL COST FOR X-BOX USERS TO GO ONLINE. DO YOU NEED A SERVICE PROVIDER ON TOP OF THE FEE YOU PAY TO PLAY X-BOX LIVE?????????

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On top of that, yes, you'll have to provide your own service provider. Of course, what I quoted hasn't come about, yet, but it does make some sense. I doubt a simple $50 fee will cover a one year subscription. That money has to be divided up between maintaining the xbox live servers and the developers games featured. And the more developers that are signed onto the service, the smaller cut of the money they recieve for their game.

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LIKE I SAID BEFORE, AT THIS POINT ONLINE GAMING IS IN THE REALM OF THE PC MARKET. I APY MY SERVICE PROVIDER FOR CABLE SERVICE AND I PLAY GAMES VIA GAME-SPY, DIRECT IP, OR DEDICATED SERVERS...NO ADD ON FEES.....

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the vast majority of you are fanboys. xbox is technically great, but all games are pc ports and dont push the boundaries. its like cappucinno, all froth and no substance.ps2 has lots of games but most are crap, too many substandard games or sequels. tomb raider 4, crash 4, gt3, gta3. iyts more of the same really...dont get me startefd on FIFA games, they are bi-annual for gods sake, gamecube is for children, the controler looks like its made by matel and the console itself looks like a lunchbox....not cool. as for online gaming itll probably never take off on consoles simply because people will not pay the money companies want. i know i wouldnt pay $10 a month or even $50 a year to play against console fanboys screaming hax0r or n00b and "u suk. i rulz". i have broadband so speed aint a problem for me but online gaming is poor for 56kers. u simply cant transfer the data. thats all i have to say for now, if i think of more u will b first to know..

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X-BOX WILL USE A BROADBAND CONNECTION...A PLUS. KNOW THE QUESTION IS, WILL THE MAJORITY OF X-BOX USERS WANT TO PAY FOR THE HIGH SPEED SERVICE ON TOP OF THE GAMING FEE THERE WILL BE FOR ONLINE PLAY? BIG NEGATIVE.

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I may seem biased to you cola, but I acknowledge all the consoles have both their strength's and weakness' more or less. I base my opinions on facts. I purchased a ps2 based on the games being released for it and its already large user base, nothing more, nothing less. I was turned off to gamecube simply due to the fact that its mini-dvd storage medium will turn away alot of console developers and in the end, I will not be able to see several of my favourite games make their way to it. Sure nintendo has some of the best franchises that I would love to play, but that tough luck for me. Nintendo is also notorious for delaying its games. Games like metroid, and mario should have been ready at its launch and nintendo should of been focusing on their sequels right now. Xbox, well, it seems all their focus is on online gaming which may or may not be profitable at all. It makes me wonder if xbox owners bought an xbox based on how much technology MS could cram into one box and not the actual games. I'm sure if xbox live isn't popular at first, MS will be able to bail themselves out, but how will they be able to pay off the game developers that have their games featured on xbox live? If MS can't even pay off nVidia and Intel, how will they pay off the developers? Out of the three consoles, xbox looks to be on shaky ground. Sales of xbox in North America have been steady, but its been humiliated in Japan. A console can't be popular in just one region of the world.

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And of course the ps2 isn't perect either. My biggest complaints on the ps2 are the lack of 4 controller ports, and its inferior dvd reader. Sony just had the luck of releasing at the right time and the games coming out + the already strong fan base will ensure its remains a strong competitor until the next generation of consoles.

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HOLY MOLLY!!!!Ok i admit now so ppl wont have 2 think what side im on.... I LOOVE THE GCN!!!!!I love Nintendo since NES....(well i though bout gettin PSX 4 the gun games which i loved on SNES as well as the arcades BUT ZELDA AND BOND made me def get a 64)However Sloose, DRDEATH and MJ know there s%*t and i wont argu with them cause i dont have time 2 look into the console war much... however ill admitt PS2 has established em reallllllyyy welllll..... but as in all forums ill like 2 sress this point which DRDEATH brought upAll next gen consoles weill be gettin roughly the same games (ROUGHLY), but the main dif is 1st and 2nd party deveklopers which NINTENDO HAVE ALA RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They r gaming Gods witht the Midas Touch which can turn any game into a gem.... PS2 have heapsa games but not much quality except a few..... X Box is a PC with PC games which run woest than a PC!GCN dont need a DVD player: we r games and games only and we r still acheivin steady sales in all areas.As 4 Tagge: I aint those PS2 fanboys which go with the flow and not many in dis forums argu 4 the GCN so how u goin 2 bag me out???

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Sloose you are an idiot. Your bashing MS and XBX like theres no tomorrow yet your lapping up their shit like any other MS fanboy. If you actually believe that MS are losing money on the XBX you have lost it totally. In one breath you say the XBX is just a PC, in another you say that its using "customized" PC components, which would cost more than normal PC components. Your so full of shit I can't believe your still standing. I would hardly say pulling half the L2 cache out of a P3 is a customization that would affect the price of the resulting chip. Same with the nVidia stuff. They just chucked together pieces of other cards. The most important fact however is that everything in the XBX could be made by machinary that already exists.The major costs of any chip are research into future chips, and the cost of the machinery (i.e. the processing plant) to make the dang things. Why do you think they cost less as time goes on? Do you think they find "new" ways to make the chips for less. Idiot. They offset the price of the plant with the chip.Ill give you an example. I build a new chip processing plant. It costs me $500 million.Say I make 5 chips from the plant and they each cost $1 to make. They means each chip costs $100 million and 1 dollars.Now say I make a million chips for $1 each. Each one now costs $501. Now say I have already sold enough chips to cover the cost of the plant... and the research... and everything else, and a company comes along and orders a couple of million chips.. How much do you think they cost?Idiot.

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Sloose you one of the most full of shit, bias, narrow-minded stupid f**kwits I've ever had the pleasure of not meeting.I can picture you now. I know your type. Your a stuck up, self absorbed know-it-all but actually stupid f**kwit who boosts hisher dwindling self esteem by pulling dumb commentsopinions out of your ass and parading them as facts. The truth is that you are wrong. Not quite all the time, but most of the time, you are totally and absolutely wrong. For every person that posts to this forum agreeing with you I can guarantee there are another 50 who are laughing at your arrogant stupidity.You are wrong.Just because some impressionable 8 year old reads your stupid comments and believes you because you present an argument which shows the "strengths and weaknesses" of each console does not make you correct. In fact, everything you write is opinionated, bias bullshit and should be presented as such. You are absolutely, totally and undeniably wrong.

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Abuse said, heres my opinion.The game cube is an awesome system. Nintendo are great game developers. Its hardware may be hurting it in 2 - 4 years time though. PS2 is also an awesome system, however it is already dated and I feel its huge user base is all that is dragging it along. I see plenty of people saying that the PS2 got in “early” on this generation of consoles. Truth is it didn’t. The PS2 belongs to a generation all of its own. The next generation started when xbx and gc were released. The xbox is an awesome system. It is technically superior to the other consoles. It is not a PC (read comments by XBX_ISNT_A_PC on one of the other forums, the XBX controller one I think). It is so technically superior in fact, that its hardware will be relevant in 4 or 5 years time. It will be a valid competitor to the PS3. 3rd party developments for the xbx will increase as its user base increases.Xbox live, and all other console online gaming strategies, will not rapidly expand as MS presumes, not unless the price of broadband drops dramatically. I don’t suspect a majority of console owners to be playing online. That said, if only 1/100th of console owners were playing online it would still be a significant number.I don’t think the size of a console affects its playability whatsoever.I don’t think Nintendo will miss out on any games by not using DVD as its storage medium. In fact I don’t think it will affect the GC at all. I also don’t believe that they will save a significant amount of money from avoiding piracy.I don’t think anyone needs 100’s of games for their console. Why which console has the most games out is such a big issue I still don’t understand. There are a decent number of quality games being released for all consoles. If anyone is sitting out there with piles of games they should get off their lazy fat ass and do something for someone less fortunate.The PC is nothing like a console. Anyone who says you should play a PC instead of a console eit

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I would hope you seriously consider your stupidity and contemplate crawling back into the little hole you crept out of.If I have failed to offend anyone Im sorry, Ill try better in my next post.

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Ok Ok, I was wrong. But your estimates place the total cost of an xbox somewhere around the range of $200 to assemble, about the same amount of money it takes to purchase one in the store. On the otherhand, most reports clearly state that after the recent price drops, MS stands to lose $200 on every xbox sold, Sony earns $14 on every ps2, and nintendo nearly breaks even.

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and before you disregard everything I have said as rude comments from someone who obviously doesn't know what they are talking about, and start bullshiting on with more of your "facts" and "truth", as I’m sure you will, just think about all the people who read your crap and laugh at your stupidity and how wrong you are.Finally, to help with my optimistic view of humanity, I am assuming you are just a stupid, arrogant little kid who doesn't know any better.

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Wow, increasing tension on this forum, but I don't mind. I agree with you the ps2 is a bit dated and it does belong more in the dreamcast generation than it does in the current one. But some people don't really find graphical superiority a major factor in their console as much as content. You also stated that xbox will remain viable for 4 to 5 more years and even be a valid competitor for the ps3. I'm confident in 1-2 years, xbox will certainly feel dated as well and as for being a competitor to the ps3, (hardware wise) I highly doubt xbox will be able to compete with a machine that is capable of pulling off 1 teraflop more or less (based on estimates). As for nintendo, I've seen plenty of games that easily exceed 1.5 gigs and it will cause some multiplatform games to pass the gamecube by, but of course gamecubes biggest draw will always be its excellent 1st/2nd party games.

XBox Live - The Features

Also i beleive that u can have more than 1 disc for the GCN in a game... im just guessin since the Nintendo of America website always say....SIZE: 1 discs.... or somethin simmilar.Just like PSX, the makers werenot restircted 2 makin stuff which can fit on just 1 CD..... geez just look at FF and Res Evil...As 4 ppl baggin ou Sloose... he does have some good arguments... does he (SH!T have i just made my self a target 4 sledgin>?)

XBox Live - The Features

If nobody cared about soundsgraphics then we would all be playing atari. For the past 20 years people have been saying that extra graphical/sound quality doesn't make a difference and its all about the game play. History shows us, however, that when a new generation console is released the previous generation begins to drop in sales. I feel that MS did a shit job showing the actual potential of the XBX on release. The general public dont know that its next gen, thats why PS2 has been outselling it.As for Sony's estimates I find them as groundless as 90% of MS's hype. I wont believe the stats that they rattle off until I see one in the store.

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