Sony CEO: We’ll Show Our Next Console Only After Microsoft Shows Its Own

January 25, 2013 - 5:17am

Sony president, Kaz Hirai, seems to be content on repeating the company’s PlayStation 3 launch mistake by holding off PlayStation 4 (Orbis) release until Microsoft has launched its Xbox 360 predecessor (Durango).

"Why go first, when your competitors can look at your specifications and come up with something better?" he explained to British magazine, The Times.

With both Orbis and Durango specs nearly finalized, most enthusiasts expected official announcements to be made during this year’s E3 expo in June. This looks less likely now.

This quest for processing power superiority has lead Sony to release PlayStation 3 a full year after Xbox 360. When Sony’s consoles finally made it to the market in 2006, its main competitor had already enjoyed a market lead of 10 million units sold. Even worse, Nintendo Wii was released around the same time PlayStation 3 was launched but it still managed to overshadow both consoles before the end of 2007, effectively proving that raw processing power is not the decisive factor in this market.

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they dont have playback compatibility

none of them will have playback compatibility so every one needs to stop saying that xbox 720 wont even be using cds any more to prevent the use of used games and ps4 wont because sony has already confirmed that it wont play previous gen games unless bought and downloaded through the psn server

it's not a typo

It's not a typo, it's a dumbass being a dumbass. A typo is an accident and this was no accident. This is evidence that a person can't take 5 minutes out of 20 years to effing learn something, and that's a character defect we have to stop forgiving. Your vs you're, their vs they're, loose vs lose, breathe vs breath, its vs it's, separate, supersede. These don't take long to learn. If everyone takes one hour out of watching youtube videos and figures this crap out _once_, they'll be set for life. It's so easy to do that not doing it makes you a dumbass.

CEO of Operatives Entertainment

I have all 3 and i play on all 3, PS3, Xbox 360 and PC. The Xbox 360 is the best selling console because it has the best support, developers can easily develop for it and microsoft ensure these developers are paid a fortune for the best games. The PS3 is more a media platform than a games machine, PS online is utterly terrible in every sense, especially when compared with Xbox Live, their is simply no comparison. PS Online is both unstable, and unsafe and only now have Sony decided to revise its security, Little to late really. However the PS3 is a very capable machine and the blu-ray drive is always useful. We all know the PC will always be ahead of consoles, and frankly who cares? if you want to keep spending hundreds or thousands on new parts or machines every year go ahead, you are clearly as silly as the manufacturers hope you are. Games still look great on both the PS3 and Xbox even after this many years, so with the new hardware i cannot wait to see what they will produce. Roll on both PS4 and Xbox 720 i say, competition is a good thing and i hope these two companies continue to compete, as this serves us (the consumer) better hardware and better deals in the long run.

Ps3 is a media platform? Even

Ps3 is a media platform? Even though it's probably the only console that has the most AAA and better exclusive games that are worth buying this generation (metacritic, ign, gamespot scores.). May i remind you how many exclusive retail disk games xbox has comapred to the ps3? The ps3 has 50+ and xbox has 6+ while wii has 25+. So i have to disagree with that point completely. I agree with you with the Playstation online. I find that the xbox is much better for online and multiplayer. But then again if i was looking for multiplayer then i would go and play my PC. But out of the two consoles i agree. The Playstation is as unstable as any network (Steam, xbox online, etc). Read this article It's very informative and will give you an insight about "console security." I honestly just hope that the next gen of xbox will direct the flow of games alot more then just buying exclusive rights to gettting a map pack out of an outdated game engine (cod).

Common Sense

It doesn't matter which console is better, all you should care about is if it can meet your gaming "needs." I for one have a PS3, and if I had an Xbox 360 I would probably play it just as much. People need to get over their love for a electronic pile of wiring and learn to just play and not hate on something someone else prefers to enjoy. No-one could care less what else you think may make your preferred console better then theirs.

CEO of Operatives Entertainment

Ok... Now this has to be one of the the most disappointing things I have ever seen. When it comes down to the better console, why are you guys bring up predecessor? If its a discussion between the two current consoles let it stay that way. No need to get butt-hurt on a topic that's not going to have an effect on you our your life 2 minutes after. Now as for the better console. I'm sorry it is Xbox 360 I don't see how sales can determine which console is better. I'm sure wii ain't better than PS3 or the 360 but look at that! Most people will not buy a console due to its specification they buy it because: 1) Their either a fan of the console/brand. 2) It's cheaper than other systems. 3) It can deliver the same amount of fun. 4) it's something they grew up on.( I for example grew up on PS2 and Nintendo 64 so naturally I would buy a ps3 which a did, eventually I had also gotten my xbox360) 5) Cause some people actually do know the specs(lol remember i said most people) But when it comes down to it Xbox 360 takes the cake, now addressing certain issues: Exclusives: is sorry for whoever told the rest of you guys that ps3 has more exclusive. That has not been the case. And I doubt will ever be Xbox 360 has basically a wall or even more than library(exaggeration) full of exclusive but you can get what I mean. (Xbox) While: (ps3) Xbox has a total of 40 more exclusives than sony and including the latest ones for each. Sponsors: ok I think it's practically dumb of anyone to think Sony has more sponsored than microsoft like wtf -,-" and if a company that sponsored microsoft will also sponsored the console (most likely due to profits or easier access to ads) not discussing this further. Online&security: ok yes yes YES!!! We know psn is free..soo? Xbox three 360 has a pay to play online feature but first of all only every say 4:10 games have an online feature most requires online for DLC's plus if your going to get in it there is also a one mothe free trial for a person who has bought a new system. Then and additional three free months with a new profile. Then different paying methods to get online I mean 60 for a years worth online isn't bad $24 for three and $10 for a month I don't see how the hell their robbing anyone plus no Xbox games requires you to pay to play unless its an arcade game which requires an online connection to be established. But you know what I'd rather pay to play online than play on a god damn lagging psn which a bunch of effing hackers. Oh yea did you guys not hear your server got hacked this happened why. Cause your just too cheap this is less likely to happen to Xbox due to this is an area specialized in because of... Who do we thank bill gates ^,^ Xbox just offers more protection I feel safe with my Xbox Specs: This is a bunch of bull Xbox 360 has the better specifications when it comes down to visuals though all thoug the two are on par ps3 has blue ray but the HUD processor MEMORY smooth gameplay mechanics best quality Xbox all the way... 5:18am out of all of what you just said, you only said one correct thing, poor faggot. of course microsoft is making money, that is all they care about. and those are not sponsors you see on xbox dipshit, those are called ads. for the fear that you may not understand what those are, ads are another way xbox makes more money. i own both the ps3 and 360, along with a multitude of other systems, and i love different features on both systems. but to go saying shit like people on psn suck at shooters, thats where you have life fucked up dude. 360 is nothing but a damn camper haven on FPS games. dont get me wrong, there is campers on any platform, and any fps. but my god, ive never seen so many people scared to die in a video game on 360. if i wanted to play hide and go seek, i would just pick up an ispy book. at least it would be more entertaining. and xbox has more exlusives than sony? yeah xbox has halo, gears and such. but more exclusives? do unicorns really exist when an individual is not intoxicated on shrooms? and sony does have a computer. its called a viao. along with a whole list of electronics. (ONCE AGAIN, INCORRECT FACTS. GO TEAM RETARDS! *sarcasm*) halo making more money than COD. now thats funny man. dont get me wrong, i love some halo action every now and then. i dont even mind the fact that bungie isnt doing halo anymore (im waiting for Destiny). anyhow, just for an example. black ops 2 broke records and brought in over 500 million dollars in sales on its first day. halo 4 only brought in about 220 million dollars in sales on its first day. keep in mind that those were only the sales on the first day, its pointless to even give you the sales quotas of this current day. and no sir, i do not suck at halo. so guess what? wrong again. so now that i have helped you correct your poorly given statements, i have only one lesson for you to learn, young jedi. QUIT BEING A FANBOY FOR A COMPANY THAT COULD CARE LESS ABOUT GAMERS AS LONG THEY ARE MAKING MONEY. defending a company that wouldnt piss on you if were on fire with a pitbull latched on your nuts, all while a midget is tossing poo poo at you. of course, you could probably pay them and they may give you a tinkle. rough possibility though. okay for starters ps3 has a larger libary of exclusives than xbox for example uncharted gt5 killzone resistance 3 infamous and so on and a point to be noted the only good exclusives i've soo far seen on my 360 are forza and halo thus ps3 has better exclusives.okay you've got bill gates but he's known for creating windows and operating systems not hardware where as sony has more than just experience in picking the precise components.ps3 also had a late start and has yet still risen above which shows that the ps3 is more reliable and powerful.dude i have both the xbox slim and the ps3 and in my opinion the ps3 is by far more futuristic than the xbox last night i was playing a little bit of pes on the xbox and its kinda funny seeing ps3 on the freakin advertisment boards so yeaah ps3 does have sponsors.even on the fucking xbox also psn is FREE i don't have to pay to play online so yeah and dude playing on different consoles doesn't mean one of them enhance your skills more than the others soo in the end ps3 is the apex predator and xbox ain't worth buying unless you have a buckload of cash for xbox live,a battery pack for the controller playing shitty games like kinectimals on the kinect and can afford to buy another one just in case the one you have gets bricked....OK IM FINALLY DONE

ur kinda stupid

I'm not sure if you herd under ur fat retard rock but Microsoft was hacked yes I see ur face drop as u talk shit about sony yes not as bad but it was still hacked so goodnight and fuck of child

We're all fanboys...

CEO...you are obviously a youngster, I'm guessing around 12-14yrs old? I don't hold this against you, you are compassionate about your likes and dislikes and your disdain for those who don't share your insights provides a little info on your experience as well. I love video games, I play daily almost, my 13yr old daughter plays and we play together sometimes or she may watch me play until she gets bored. I own all the current consoles, had a Dreamcast, a Gamegear and some other handhelds, and even a Leapster( when she was little )I don't do PC games because I don't have the expertise to upgrade my current machine or prepare once strictly for gaming. I say all this in an effort to explain that gamePLAY is king--it's all about the software. I have all the systems simply because I don't want to miss any games. I even own one game I have also on another system because the gamemakers decided to "tweak" a movement on one platform that they didn't on another! Guess what? I'm a fanboy. Guess what else? You're a fanboy, too. We like videogames and that makes us fans. Some more fanatical than others but fans nonetheless. So let me give you a lesson as well young master, they DO care about the gamer( those that make systems to play games )and it is always about the money. They don't do it for free, PSN is not completely free and you dont pay for everything on XBOXlive. Each one has it's pros and cons and it is up to the CONSUMER to keep these companies honest and pumping out dependable hardware and stellar software to play it on. Live to game and game to live. PS. I played PONG when it was new...and everthing else before the FIRST Playstation, so I have a little experience on my side.

LOL Wha...?

One of the richest men on the planet is a fool? And the truth-sayers and geniuses at SONY decided that they would almost price themselves outta the market at the beginning of this console generation and come in third behind a system that wasn't even in HD? I like you, you're funny!

OPEN YOUR EYES

Who gives a damn about Bill Gates? The only thing he managed to do is make a decent PC, I have a Windows 7 and it gets the job done. Sony wants to see how the 720 is a giant piece of crap, and steal the market. Japan is the most technologically advanced country in the world, you would be a dumbass to think a douchebag from California can make a better console then them. I had a 360 for a year and it died, my PS3 has been running for two years now and I got it from a pawn shop. Quality is the key to a good console. Sony released 3 consoles and 2 handhelds. Xbox has released 2 consoles and no handhelds. The original Xbox was a copy of the PS2, and not a good one. the fat PS2 is half the size of a Xbox. The Xbox was always a copy of the Playstation. In 2006, the Xbox 360 was a white lump of dog shit suffering from screen tearing and lag. The PS3 that was HD compatible that could play PS1 games without a patch that should have been installed on the 360. Bill Gates is rich because he is lazy.

Bias Much?

No one is going to take your argument seriously when you come across so blatantly biased (trying to stay away from throwing around the fan boy term here). You fail to mention the areas the ps3 has the xbox beat (bluray for example). It comes down to preference no one console is a hands down winner in my eyes. In my OPINION (key word here) the ps3 is better because although it may have less exclusives, the ones it does have are in entirely different leagues (uncharted and god of war especially).

Sony's biggest mistake

IMO is by not making their consoles backwards compatible, or at least offering some peripheral device that makes it possible(IE. Gameboy player for the Gamebox). Having to repurchase games on Cloud doesn't count plus they haven't guaranteed playability for any previous games as yet. They lost at least one sale(mine) because of this.

Huh,

Well that's fine. Why buy a PS4 if all you want to do is play PS3 games? And you may not have to rebuy all of your cloud games. It's possible Sony will do a PS+ like service with it, giving you access to all, or a large amount of the games. In addition, while they said there isn't support for games downloaded on PSN for PS4, they did state that they had the data of who downloaded what, and they might be able to use that.

IMO

they never once said anyone had to repurchase a game to play on a cloud system, how much sense would that make for someone to use a cloud based service to run a game they could just re-buy for that system, they already stated that its not possible for the PS4 to even be able to play because the processor is so powerful it cant even run a last gen game because the system wont even recognize it, go ahead and dont buy it, im not losing anything over you not buying it, you're very misinformed

Processor too powerful...

Lol if you don't know what you are talking about, which is extremely obvious then it's better to be silent. How powerful a processor is has never got anything to do with bc and a processor can never be too powerful. Those are facts. It's the libraries system, the cell processor from the PS3 which are completely different from the PS4 hardware, which will be very close to regular pc hardware. Actually it is common pc hardware, just modified. However when streaming there are no limitation anymore to bc. However i share you're love for the PS4.

Do you really know?

(Paragraphs separated with " ----- ". No spaces in comments and an advertising captcha -- *cha ching* -- is an amazing business decision!) ----- You ought to change your tone a bit. You have accused the former of ignorance but have not proven any vast understanding of this topic; and it has nothing to do with a "libraries system." ----- One major difference is the microprocessor instruction set. The Playstation 3 contains a Cell microprocessor, which is an enhanced PowerPC platform based on Power Architecture, implemented with a RISC strategy. The Playstation 4 contains an AMD x86 microprocessor, which is based on x86 architecture, implemented with a CISC strategy. ----- Another major difference is the operating system. An operating system's job is to provide applications that run on them with access to the underlying resources in the computer. There is no standardized way of doing this, so how an operating system provides these resources vary substantially between each another. ----- When applications are "compiled" from human-readable source code to something that a device can execute, a binary, both of these things are taken into account. The instruction set is important because one needs to know how electrons will flow through a CPU to produce the intended result, and also for optimization purposes. The operating system is important because software needs resources to perform it's task. When comparing a Playstation 3 binary with a Playstation 4 binary, both of these problems will be present. ----- If you have identical or forwards-compatible microprocessor instruction sets, a compatibility layer can be introduced to translate the binary's foreign system calls into native system calls. For example, Windows, Linux, BSD and Mac PC's all use the x86 architecture, however they have different operating systems. A program called WINE exists that provides a compatibility layer to run Windows binaries on Linux, BSD and Mac PC's. The overhead of a compatibility layer is usually very small; it is possible for them to even run better. This, however, is not an option for running Playstation 3 games on a Playstation 4. ----- When a compatibility layer does not exist, you still have software-based hardware emulators. Virtual machines are an example of software that can provide hardware emulation. The overhead of emulation is quite costly, so it is usually not a viable option unless your current hardware is powerful enough to overcome this overhead cost. Usually this means being an iteration or two ahead of what you want to emulate. Whether this is an option for running Playstation 3 games on the Playstation 4 I do not know. It would highly depend on the effective performance of the Playstation 4 hardware coupled with both the ability and quality of the implementation of this software-based hardware emulator.

emulation?

well if something is truly THAT much more powerful, it shouldn't have trouble running some form of emulated environment to run older software. I remember doing that a few years ago on my PC when i wanted to play some really old PC games from the early 90s.

Sony Fail

You must not realize that sony is already doing this with the PS3 and the PS Vita, I had to re-buy Monster Hunter Unite and transfer my psp save file to continue playing it on my vita, 20 bucks but game gives hundreds of hours of play so its worth it. But I hated having to do that, and the reason why the PS4 wont have backwards compatibility isn't because its "more powerful" its because the cell processor architecture is jacked up that they would have to put one in the new system along with the new processor to make PS3 games work properly, way too costly, thats why they have to stream games using a emulator for the new system. Please do better research, you cant just take a company for face value, especially sony, they hardly care about their own fans, just money. They even shared personal info on its customers registered to the Sony network for profit,(get a bunch of unwanted ad mail lately?) which is why they were hacked by anonymous.

Sony's biggest mistake

IMO is by not making their consoles backwards compatible, or at least offering some peripheral device that makes it possible(IE. Gameboy player for the Gamebox). Having to repurchase games on Cloud doesn't count plus they haven't guaranteed playability for any previous games as yet. They lost at least one sale(mine) because of this.

all this bitching

what a load of crap everybody fighting over which of the consoles r better there both great consoles for playing games on, i persanally wouldnt worry about blu ray coz i mean i wouldnt waste my money on what appear to me to be an "enhanced DvD" when i can watch everything i want online on my computer. But i think when it come down do it it just depends on the games u like, if u like halo get an xbox y like infamous get a playstation (and i know there r more games and better games these r just 2 examples) and to the Article well i'd have to say if PS4 has been made don't make the fans wait, i mean the only reason not to release the console is if they were 100% sure that microsoft could make something better given the choice :S P.S. i've seen people say that Sony and Microsoft should join up and i think thats a brilliant idea because that way we'd be able to enjoy ALL GAMES on an all use console

uhhhhh

Joining up would be a terrible idea. Nintendo is playing by their own rules and they have the most and by far the strongest IP's in the industry, you can disagree if you want, but look at the numbers, they don't lie. They have existed for 3 generations already relying almost solely on them selves to push through, plus they have the cushion to mess up from time to time with 10 billion in the bank. This is a luxury that MS and Sony don't really have, they are both huge companies, but both have been hemorrhaging money, and they will likely step out of the console race if things continue the way they are going. Now with all that said, MS and Sony merging/combining is a terrible idea because then there is no competition (as said earlier, Nintendo plays their own game) and it becomes a monopoly. This is very bad for the consumer (you, me and everyone on the forum) because if this allows them to get lazy and hike up the prices of everything if they feel like it, and in this gaming economy they would. So the only other option would be to play on PC, this is a great way to play games, but once again it is very expensive to purchase/build your own gaming rig and it's quite expensive to keep it up to date with the latest hardware, you generally have to upgrade about every 2 years or so. Plus not everybody wants or is able to do this with PC's, but PC game prices would likely be affected as well to some point. If one of these 2 big companies bows out, I just hope that another hardware developer steps up to take the place of the one the left, but there might not be any companies willing to take the risk. Panasonic had a terrible time of it, they didn't even last 1 generation, NEC tried but eventually failed (turbo graphic 16), SNK (NEO-GEO) didn't catch on, Atari started it, left it, then joined again, then left again, joined-left, joined-left. Sega, the big one didn't make it even though they made some seriously great systems and in many ways were way ahead of their time. There are of course a couple new potential entries into the field, Ouya (android games on your TV...), Nvidia with Project Shield (actually a hand held thingy that connects to your computer) and the rumored Steam Box (Valve's steam service on a console, will have to have very high end specs to keep some longivity, or stream from a computer). But every generation has had multiple entrants into the console battlefield, most become cannon fodder.

Oozing Brains

This is idiotic, both side sides have their fans and we dont switch back and fowarth. If Sony doesnt get their shit together and start remembering who keeps them afloat ie. the fans, Im just gonna switch to pc and be done with both of them. I mean, instead of doing something really cool and installing a HD projector or what have you, they put in the "always on" crap which I wasnt impressed with when I first heard it suggested a year ago. What a waist of modern technology. Maybe they let me down or maybe Im just starting for get too old for games but this bologna is not next gen its what I would expect a company based in China to do.

1) Learn English before you

1) Learn English before you try typing it. Your spelling and grammar are atrocious. 2) You're very wrong if you don't think there are people who are fans of both consoles. I've seen Sony fans become Microsoft fans, and vice versa. I personally own both, and they get equal play time. 3) If you really would consider switching to pc gaming exclusively just because Sony considered not announcing their console first, then you calling yourself a fan is a tragedy. You apparently don't know the meaning of the word if you would fall off the bandwagon because of something that isn't even a bump in the road. 4) (this one isn't as much a response to you as it is to the article itself) Calling the idea of waiting to announce your console until after your competition shows their specs a mistake is pure lunacy. It's called competitive analysis, and it provides an opportunity for one competitor to see what the other is doing and try to improve their own work to beat it.

"1) Learn English before you

"1) Learn English before you try typing it. Your spelling and grammar are atrocious." So people who dont have English as their main language, but as a 2nd, 3rd or in my case 4th language cannot comment on the Internet because they make spelling mistakes? Maaaan, you are an fckn idiot! I say again, idiot!

old news is old

This is old and inaccurate news. Sony has already stated a Holiday 2013 release time frame. Microsoft hasn't even hinted at a release date. It's safe to say they will launch after PS4. Maybe it's time to update this article?Hmmm?

I will tell ya this right now

I will tell ya this right now that Sony systems suck. Get a life cause millions out there agree even syndicate who's the most famous youtuber for gaming out there. Microsoft makes better systems even says my friend with a ps3 ya dooshe.

Popcorn

Eating ma popcorn as I read this shieet :D I don't see the point in waiting for Microsoft to release it, unless they themselves are worried about the new Microsoft console being better I've nvr had a sony console, I've played the xbox as well as the xbox 360, and I'm a Microsoft fan. I have nothing against Sony, but I still don't understand what's the point in waiting?

think about it

figures theres always going to be war bettween sony and microsoft. well all ive got to say is there both pretty damn awesome but have there ups and downs but i think a better solution for the people fighting would be to join companies or something. maybe im being a bit ignorant but hey!! you never know it could be the best console ever created and that way there wouldent be so much distribution to weather sony (ps3) or microsoft(xbox360) is better,

think about it

figures theres always going to be war bettween sony and microsoft. well all ive got to say is there both pretty damn awesome but have there ups and downs but i think a better solution for the people fighting would be to join companies or something. maybe im being a bit ignorant but hey!! you never know it could be the best console ever created and that way there wouldent be so much distribution to weather sony (ps3) or microsoft(xbox360) is better,

Tire of the pussified people of today

Can the world move on from being offended by everything someone says now... some uses the word retard, and someone else's whole world comes to a halt. Really, you that sensitive? You can't go on because someone said a word you don't like. The way people are today is simply pathetic, get over it, put your big boy pants on and move on.

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